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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 01:54 GMT
#840
How on earth am I in a scumteam with Omni? This theory is one of the most stupid things I've ever read.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 02:08 GMT
#842
Yes, but scum still want to defend themselves. They want to get suspicion off of themselves and onto townies as fast as possible.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 02:13 GMT
#844
I'm saying that shz defending himself isn't really a townie trait. Everyone wants to defend themselves, regardless of alignment.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 02:18 GMT
#846
I'd rather lynch whichever one is more likely to be scum, regardless of how they defend themselves. shz is just way more scummy than Orange.
I'll try to stop spamming now with my "lynch shz" stuff, but seriously:

lynch shz
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 02:25 GMT
#848
I am very interested in who Omni would prefer lynching.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 02:29 GMT
#850
Yeah, I meant out of Orange or shz.

I highly doubt it'll be shz.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 04:51 GMT
#857
I'll save the association case until I actually see a flip.

Both Omni and shz were by far my top two scumreads d2, with Omni ahead mainly because of his slip. He still hasn't cleared that up completely, but his defense felt genuine enough to warrant bumping shz up to my top read. shz's posting in general looks worse than Omni's.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 14:38 GMT
#890
On December 23 2012 14:18 shz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 14:07 cDgCorazon wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:55 shz wrote:

If Omni is scum, the only explanation for his Spaghetti vote would be that Corazon is scum too. Why would he not jump on the Corazon wagon otherwise? Scum wants to kill anyone besides scum, so why start confusion when you just can take the safe bet without getting noticed.
M conclusion is: If Omni is scum, Corazon has to be too. But then I don't get why he should still make a case against Cora, even if he backpaddled later? Why draw attenion to your buddy at all?



That sir, is where you are sadly misinformed. If you've read the thread, you would see that Spag defended me, not attacked me. If Omni and I are scum, Omni would not have thrown me under the bus Day 1. That is a strategy scum would do if they wanted to lose. He would also not go on the offensive against someone who defended his scum mate, the logical thing to do would keep his vote on me and ride out Spag's lynch on Day 1. You don't understand why he would make a case against me and call me "100%" scum if we were both scum as well. I think you are taking the "Newbie" title in this thread just a bit too seriously. If the scum were to do things that you are suggesting the scum are doing, then this game would be over in 3 days.

If you are going to accuse me of being scum buddies with Omni, you need to look at my filter. I have not made any huge argument for or against Omni in the entire game. To me, this just seems like you reaching for connections that just don't exist, and reads that you are hoping we are stupid enough to believe.

##unvote
##Vote:Shz


You, sir did not understand my post at all. Maybe it was strangely worded so Ill try again:

If Omni were scum, he could have just voted for you instead of going for Spaghetti, because at that time you were bout to get lynched. Except if you were scum too, than he had to rescue you from your demise. But if you were scum, and he were scum, we would not made his case againt you in the first place.
This is why I don't think there is a reasom to believe Omni is scum.

If Omni was scum, he could have switched off to avoid suspicion at being on the major wagon, or maybe he switched off because he doesn't care who is lynched. I talked about this in my case, perhaps you should read it again.

I do not understand how we are considering lynching lurkers (threesr/Orange) over the very scummy players in this game. Read the cases I've posted (Omni, shz) and ask yourself for the town and scum motivation. The scum motivation is rampant. Read the case on Orange and ask yourself for motivation. There is no scum motivation. Why would we lynch lurkers over scum?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 17:58 GMT
#907
Glad that people are voting; if you haven't already, put your vote on your top scumread. I'm pretty confident that both shz and Omni are scum, so I'll consolidate onto Omni later if shz isn't getting any votes.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 20:29 GMT
#919
Omni, if you vote shz, he might get enough votes to be lynched over you.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 20:52 GMT
#923
On December 23 2012 23:38 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 14:18 shz wrote:
On December 23 2012 14:07 cDgCorazon wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:55 shz wrote:

If Omni is scum, the only explanation for his Spaghetti vote would be that Corazon is scum too. Why would he not jump on the Corazon wagon otherwise? Scum wants to kill anyone besides scum, so why start confusion when you just can take the safe bet without getting noticed.
M conclusion is: If Omni is scum, Corazon has to be too. But then I don't get why he should still make a case against Cora, even if he backpaddled later? Why draw attenion to your buddy at all?



That sir, is where you are sadly misinformed. If you've read the thread, you would see that Spag defended me, not attacked me. If Omni and I are scum, Omni would not have thrown me under the bus Day 1. That is a strategy scum would do if they wanted to lose. He would also not go on the offensive against someone who defended his scum mate, the logical thing to do would keep his vote on me and ride out Spag's lynch on Day 1. You don't understand why he would make a case against me and call me "100%" scum if we were both scum as well. I think you are taking the "Newbie" title in this thread just a bit too seriously. If the scum were to do things that you are suggesting the scum are doing, then this game would be over in 3 days.

If you are going to accuse me of being scum buddies with Omni, you need to look at my filter. I have not made any huge argument for or against Omni in the entire game. To me, this just seems like you reaching for connections that just don't exist, and reads that you are hoping we are stupid enough to believe.

##unvote
##Vote:Shz


You, sir did not understand my post at all. Maybe it was strangely worded so Ill try again:

If Omni were scum, he could have just voted for you instead of going for Spaghetti, because at that time you were bout to get lynched. Except if you were scum too, than he had to rescue you from your demise. But if you were scum, and he were scum, we would not made his case againt you in the first place.
This is why I don't think there is a reasom to believe Omni is scum.

If Omni was scum, he could have switched off to avoid suspicion at being on the major wagon, or maybe he switched off because he doesn't care who is lynched. I talked about this in my case, perhaps you should read it again.

I do not understand how we are considering lynching lurkers (threesr/Orange) over the very scummy players in this game. Read the cases I've posted (Omni, shz) and ask yourself for the town and scum motivation. The scum motivation is rampant. Read the case on Orange and ask yourself for motivation. There is no scum motivation. Why would we lynch lurkers over scum?

You're right, I've only talked about your "arguments" twice so far. You ignore his whole scummy filter so that you can give him a contrived town read because you don't want to vote your scumbuddy,

Of course he should vote you to survive. There's no way that you don't understand that.

shz and OmniEulogy scumteam 100%
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 20:54 GMT
#924
On December 24 2012 05:50 OmniEulogy wrote:
I know Chrom I was looking at that as well but I don't have a scum read on Shz at all. The only way I could see Shz as being mafia atm would be if he lied about getting rb'd and tried to defend me because he knows I'm about to flip town. The case he made though was pretty well thought out in my defense and I don't think mafia would really care if I get lynched D2 anyway. It gives them a good lead.

Corazon READ THE POSTS for god's sake. I am not calling Aqua scum. You had better be joking and I'm just not getting it or it's getting seriously sad.

The only way you're not getting lynched is if you vote shz. Do you agree?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 20:56 GMT
#926
I'm more confident in shz, but not by much. As long as one of them is lynched, I'm fine.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 21:10 GMT
#929
On December 24 2012 06:01 OmniEulogy wrote:
hmm I think even if I vote Shz I'll still get lynched but I'm not going to vote for somebody I don't have a scum read on.

Let's examine the possibilities:

Omni and shz:
Omni knows for certain that he is town. He thinks shz is town, but is not sure. Obviously, he would rather lynch shz over himself, because shz at least has a chance of flipping scum.
Omni would vote for shz.

Omni and shz
Omni knows for certain that shz is town. Obviously, he would rather get shz mislynched than have himself lynched.
Omni would vote for shz.

Omni and shz
Omni knows for certain that shz and himself are both scum. He doesn't want either of them lynched. He might vote for shz over himself, but only if shz is under more suspicion (which he's not).
Omni probably wouldn't vote for shz.

Scumteam 100%.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 21:23 GMT
#932
Because you're scum, silly!
Seriously, the only other reason that he might not vote for you in that circumstance is because he's WIFOM bombing us hardcore. That's a terrible move strategically though, and it's unlikely in the face of the other associations.

Looks like shz's not getting lynched today, might as well consolidate to prevent any shenanigainry:
##Unvote
##Vote: OmniEulogy
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 21:27 GMT
#934
shz is cleared? Do explain.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 23:31 GMT
#956
On December 24 2012 08:29 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 08:25 OmniEulogy wrote:
Basically I think we're screwed. Start looking at what happens when I flip VT cause I honestly think the scum have played this perfectly. We didn't go after the lurkers, have lost a massive amount of information and because we didn't have information we turned on each other and made imaginary cases on ourselves because we don't have a clue about the others.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Still can't chase anyone else at this point today (too much WIFOM, and besides I doubt there's enough people here). At this rate Threesr will be modkilled - if he flips green (or blue :/ ) we will be in very deep s***.

What? You don't think that Omni is scum?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#969
Thank goodness, I was getting pretty nervous.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 24 2012 00:02 GMT
#976
WTF
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 24 2012 00:20 GMT
#983
Okay, I still think that shz is scummy, but at least 2 of the mafia are hardcore lurking right now. I think that we pretty much have to lynch a lurker today. The problem is that we're basically coinflipping, but I don't think that we have any other choice.

Mainly I just feel like an idiot right now.
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