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On December 16 2012 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count!
Jiexian (6) - thrawn2112, DarthPunk, DoYouHas, MrZentor, Hapahauli, Morbidius
MrZentor (1) - JieXian
DarthPunk (1) - Djodref
Morbidius (1) - Drazak
Not Voting (4) - kushm4sta, Eywa-, threesr, Mr. Cheesecake
Currently nobody is set to be lynched!
With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.
The deadline is in 21.5 hours at Sunday, Dec 16 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Please make sure to vote and to cast your secret witchcraft votes by then. Anyone who has not voted by the end of the day will be subject to moderator action.
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On December 20 2012 11:42 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 11:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 16 2012 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count!
Jiexian (6) - thrawn2112, DarthPunk, [redDoYouHas, MrZentor, Hapahauli, Morbidius
MrZentor (1) - JieXian
DarthPunk (1) - Djodref
Morbidius (1) - Drazak
Not Voting (4) - kushm4sta, Eywa-, threesr, Mr. Cheesecake
Currently nobody is set to be lynched!
With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.
The deadline is in 21.5 hours at Sunday, Dec 16 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Please make sure to vote and to cast your secret witchcraft votes by then. Anyone who has not voted by the end of the day will be subject to moderator action.
Do you think it's likely that DYH would bus his scumbuddy so early? He was only the third on him. Truth be told, he did hop off his wagon quickly for the morb lynch. It was still early in the day, giving Jx a lot of time to talk himself out of his lynch. Or try to switch the lynch onto a lurker. And if Jx made a scumslip, DYH would have looked good after his lynch. Being the Priest, he could have lurked his way into this game. I don't see why it would innocent Jx. Jx tried to derail DYH into MrZentor, that DYH was aslo tunneling. And Jx has been strangely obsessed with Hapa today, and kept speculating again and again and again. So, yeah, I have Jx as scum way before Eywa... [/red]
Can you provide an example of this? Where did JX try to derail DYH?
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Ohhh I see what you mean Djo. I misinterpreted your wording there when you said derailed. Intereting.
Aruging has a negative connotation to it, imo.
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It's okay kushy-boy I still wuv you.
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On December 20 2012 12:41 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 12:27 kushm4sta wrote:
why aren't you answering my question tho djo... how can your biggest scumread be of an unreadable lurker? He is not unreadable. He has done zero scumhunting, and he has clearly shown very little interest in this game, very similar to DYH play in fact. And, if we proceed by elimination, he has more chances to flip scum than other players in this game, at the exception of JieXan. By the way, I didn't say he was my top scumread, I've said that he had the most chances to flip scum at that moment, and it was before checking JieXan's filter... Please also answer my questions. You have been avoiding too many questions addressed to you in this game, Kush. What do you make of Jx right now ? Could you show me any post where you hint that you were blue, or that you had a green check on DYH ?
Hapa did this already, methinks.
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DP won witchcraft... Kush won witchcraft... Who was the third?
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Hmm JX/draz scum would fit very well. JX is up for lynch draz starts the lurker wagon, DYH hops on ASAP
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On December 20 2012 15:02 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Vote Count!
DoYouHas (5) - Hapahauli, MrZentor, Mr. Cheesecake, Djodref, kush
MrZentor (2) - DoYouHas, Eywa-, JieXian
Mr. Cheesecake (1) - JieXian
Not Voting (1) - Drazak
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Currently DoYouHas is set to be lynched!
This is my scumteam at the moment. I don't think anyone on the DYH wagon was scum. It was very difficult to put together, and everyone consolidating at the end felt very townie and genuine. In addition, I can't see where mafia would have bussed DYH. The counterwagons were sufficiently strong where going on DYH was not a straightforward play. Drazak seems like a pretty straightforward scum candidate. Fairly useless, no scumhunting, etc. Hopefully he gets modkilled so we can see him flip. Between Eywa and JieXian, I'm leaning towards JieXian for a couple of reasons. 1) It feels like JieXian was just stuck in attack-mode all game for no reason. His play can only be described as purposefully antagonistic. Him switching between Mr.CC and MrZ shows lots of anti-town motive, and reads a lot like a guy going all-out to save DYH. 2) When I was attacking JieXian early in the game, he buddied Eywa and thought he was town for zero rationale. He was treating Eywa as if he knew Eywa would flip town. 3) DYH's suspicion on Eywa suggests that Eywa is town. DYH was very comfortable with the idea that "Eywa was scummy", and didn't back off until early D2 when Eywa was playing far more constructive. It reads a lot like DYH was fueling the fires of a mislynch.
Totally forgot about that. Combined with the fact that DYH was setting up for my lynch if I lynched Eywa, I think that team pretty much makes sense. I don't see a team where JX isn't scum.
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And I already know JX will come and attack me for not following through on the Eywa case. Prolly call me scum in big capital red letters, demand that it's a scumslip, etc etc.
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On December 20 2012 21:43 Djodref wrote:I really put some effort in this case guys... So I would really appreciate that we discuss JieXian seriously. I have thought of some other points to bring against him but I would like to see if anyone is going to mention them or not  A lot of these points are also valid against Eywa, but Eywa did lynch DYH at the end, and there is less occurrences where he defends him. Please refer to the discussion between Hapa and him when they start to discuss Eywa's reads. + Show Spoiler [for reference] +On December 18 2012 12:11 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 11:50 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts? Dr.Chessboard isn't going to be elected in the fall, I must push my vote to someone who might. Please please stop with the name-ribbing. We're not playing the "let's yell at each other game" anymore. We're playing the "let's be calm and rational people trying to find scum" game. Just call him CC, Cheesecake, or whatever - name mixups just aren't necessary. As for your vote, it seems like only two players (yourself and JieXian) would support such an idea right now. I wouldn't call it feasible. However, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about your other "Possible Scum" candidates. You have Draz, Kush, and Djo marked as possible scum, and I'd be interested to hear more on them. Also, you have DYH marked as "not scum", which I find odd considering his lurkiness so far. I think DoYouHas has taken a far too impersonal approach to the game so far... He hasn't really seemed to care what has gone on and generally has just sponged off other people, really doesn't make sense to call him mafia. Also, when attacked he hasn't fled Jie Xian is all over the place without having changed personalities, normally when a mafia member realizes that what he is doing is suspicious, he slowly adapts. The mistakes which you may think Jie Xian makes, he's been making all game, it's not from pressure or anything because while under pressure and not, he's the same. Kush's lurking is suspect because of how he approaches it, he'll take on scenarios up till he's the topic of conversation at which point he's gone till the conversation turns again. He's just awkward and doesn't feel quite right. Also, his first vote antics were odd to say the least If MrV is scum, he's ridiculously good, because I see no traces of scum whatsoever. He's been over the fire while still not changing at all similarly to Jie Xian, which in itself isn't definitive, however, when others have, it's hard to count these guys as real threats. CharlieChaplain is just scummy, he doesn't answer questions about himself and has only ever targeted civilians. Sure, he's under a lot of stress, but stress doesn't translate into not being able to answer one simple question. His slip ups are numerous. Draskal is that lurker which literally never posts anything insightful... There's no way to tell either way what he is, so it's best to leave him since if we get one wrong, we're in hot water. Djoref is just... Well let's just say he's given just about everyone a criminal case which proves their guilt... This does not add to his credibility... This does not make him look good, makes him look scum. He's been head hunting for a while. You've been my target from the start, ever since I read your first day posts, your slip ups have been many, I don't believe you to be innocent.
I'm 100% certain that either JX or Eywa is scum. If JX somehow flips green, Eywa is totally flipping red. Don't think we'll have a problem here, will totally support a JX lynch tomorrow. However, if Eywa ends up being the scum, I'm putting you as his scumbuddy over Drazak
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On December 21 2012 02:18 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 20 2012 21:43 Djodref wrote:I really put some effort in this case guys... So I would really appreciate that we discuss JieXian seriously. I have thought of some other points to bring against him but I would like to see if anyone is going to mention them or not A lot of these points are also valid against Eywa, but Eywa did lynch DYH at the end, and there is less occurrences where he defends him. Please refer to the discussion between Hapa and him when they start to discuss Eywa's reads. + Show Spoiler [for reference] +On December 18 2012 12:11 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 11:50 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts? Dr.Chessboard isn't going to be elected in the fall, I must push my vote to someone who might. Please please stop with the name-ribbing. We're not playing the "let's yell at each other game" anymore. We're playing the "let's be calm and rational people trying to find scum" game. Just call him CC, Cheesecake, or whatever - name mixups just aren't necessary. As for your vote, it seems like only two players (yourself and JieXian) would support such an idea right now. I wouldn't call it feasible. However, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about your other "Possible Scum" candidates. You have Draz, Kush, and Djo marked as possible scum, and I'd be interested to hear more on them. Also, you have DYH marked as "not scum", which I find odd considering his lurkiness so far. I think DoYouHas has taken a far too impersonal approach to the game so far... He hasn't really seemed to care what has gone on and generally has just sponged off other people, really doesn't make sense to call him mafia. Also, when attacked he hasn't fled Jie Xian is all over the place without having changed personalities, normally when a mafia member realizes that what he is doing is suspicious, he slowly adapts. The mistakes which you may think Jie Xian makes, he's been making all game, it's not from pressure or anything because while under pressure and not, he's the same. Kush's lurking is suspect because of how he approaches it, he'll take on scenarios up till he's the topic of conversation at which point he's gone till the conversation turns again. He's just awkward and doesn't feel quite right. Also, his first vote antics were odd to say the least If MrV is scum, he's ridiculously good, because I see no traces of scum whatsoever. He's been over the fire while still not changing at all similarly to Jie Xian, which in itself isn't definitive, however, when others have, it's hard to count these guys as real threats. CharlieChaplain is just scummy, he doesn't answer questions about himself and has only ever targeted civilians. Sure, he's under a lot of stress, but stress doesn't translate into not being able to answer one simple question. His slip ups are numerous. Draskal is that lurker which literally never posts anything insightful... There's no way to tell either way what he is, so it's best to leave him since if we get one wrong, we're in hot water. Djoref is just... Well let's just say he's given just about everyone a criminal case which proves their guilt... This does not add to his credibility... This does not make him look good, makes him look scum. He's been head hunting for a while. You've been my target from the start, ever since I read your first day posts, your slip ups have been many, I don't believe you to be innocent. I'm 100% certain that either JX or Eywa is scum. If JX somehow flips green, Eywa is totally flipping red. Don't think we'll have a problem here, will totally support a JX lynch tomorrow. However, if Eywa ends up being the scum, I'm putting you as his scumbuddy over Drazak In fact, I think that you have to explain me your whole reasoning for all theses hypothesis. I don't understand where you are coming from here.
Woa there buddy, calm yourself. Don't get all defensive. You only voted DYH because you had to. You're still less of a suspect than either of those guys. You want Drazak/JX dead apparently, and seem to defend Eywa. So does Hapa, actually, but Eywa + you would make at least a little sense. We're going to lynch JX so we'll see how that goes mmkay?
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The two of them being scum together, whew, that would actually be great. I would be restored in the faith of humanity.
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On December 21 2012 02:44 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2012 02:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 21 2012 02:18 Djodref wrote:On December 21 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 20 2012 21:43 Djodref wrote:I really put some effort in this case guys... So I would really appreciate that we discuss JieXian seriously. I have thought of some other points to bring against him but I would like to see if anyone is going to mention them or not A lot of these points are also valid against Eywa, but Eywa did lynch DYH at the end, and there is less occurrences where he defends him. Please refer to the discussion between Hapa and him when they start to discuss Eywa's reads. + Show Spoiler [for reference] +On December 18 2012 12:11 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 11:50 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts? Dr.Chessboard isn't going to be elected in the fall, I must push my vote to someone who might. Please please stop with the name-ribbing. We're not playing the "let's yell at each other game" anymore. We're playing the "let's be calm and rational people trying to find scum" game. Just call him CC, Cheesecake, or whatever - name mixups just aren't necessary. As for your vote, it seems like only two players (yourself and JieXian) would support such an idea right now. I wouldn't call it feasible. However, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about your other "Possible Scum" candidates. You have Draz, Kush, and Djo marked as possible scum, and I'd be interested to hear more on them. Also, you have DYH marked as "not scum", which I find odd considering his lurkiness so far. I think DoYouHas has taken a far too impersonal approach to the game so far... He hasn't really seemed to care what has gone on and generally has just sponged off other people, really doesn't make sense to call him mafia. Also, when attacked he hasn't fled Jie Xian is all over the place without having changed personalities, normally when a mafia member realizes that what he is doing is suspicious, he slowly adapts. The mistakes which you may think Jie Xian makes, he's been making all game, it's not from pressure or anything because while under pressure and not, he's the same. Kush's lurking is suspect because of how he approaches it, he'll take on scenarios up till he's the topic of conversation at which point he's gone till the conversation turns again. He's just awkward and doesn't feel quite right. Also, his first vote antics were odd to say the least If MrV is scum, he's ridiculously good, because I see no traces of scum whatsoever. He's been over the fire while still not changing at all similarly to Jie Xian, which in itself isn't definitive, however, when others have, it's hard to count these guys as real threats. CharlieChaplain is just scummy, he doesn't answer questions about himself and has only ever targeted civilians. Sure, he's under a lot of stress, but stress doesn't translate into not being able to answer one simple question. His slip ups are numerous. Draskal is that lurker which literally never posts anything insightful... There's no way to tell either way what he is, so it's best to leave him since if we get one wrong, we're in hot water. Djoref is just... Well let's just say he's given just about everyone a criminal case which proves their guilt... This does not add to his credibility... This does not make him look good, makes him look scum. He's been head hunting for a while. You've been my target from the start, ever since I read your first day posts, your slip ups have been many, I don't believe you to be innocent. I'm 100% certain that either JX or Eywa is scum. If JX somehow flips green, Eywa is totally flipping red. Don't think we'll have a problem here, will totally support a JX lynch tomorrow. However, if Eywa ends up being the scum, I'm putting you as his scumbuddy over Drazak In fact, I think that you have to explain me your whole reasoning for all theses hypothesis. I don't understand where you are coming from here. Woa there buddy, calm yourself. Don't get all defensive. You only voted DYH because you had to. You're still less of a suspect than either of those guys. You want Drazak/JX dead apparently, and seem to defend Eywa. So does Hapa, actually, but Eywa + you would make at least a little sense. We're going to lynch JX so we'll see how that goes mmkay? In fact, we still have plenty of time, and hopefully drazak is going to get modkilled. I'm very interested to see what Eywa and JieXian are coming to come up with this night and also tomorrow. And I'm to decide then who is going to be lynched among them. So I'm not going to be totally rigid on who we should lynch. But, if I had to do it right now, it would be in that order: JieXan first, Drazak second and then Eywa/Kush.
And yeah, sorry, but I hate the idea to be associated with Eywa...
Wouldn't we all be ashamed to be associated... haha.
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On December 21 2012 02:59 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2012 02:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The two of them being scum together, whew, that would actually be great. I would be restored in the faith of humanity. @ CheeseYeah, but I don't want you to figure out who is scum so you can preserve your faith in your humanity. What would be the most likely scumteam for you ?
Think I said it before, JX/drazak makes the most sense for me ATM.
JX is in danger of lynch, drazak starts the lurker wagon. That's all he's done this game and it fits quite well assuming JX is scum. Second scumteam would be Eywa/kush... I'm leaning off you right now.
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On December 21 2012 03:08 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2012 03:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 21 2012 02:59 Djodref wrote:On December 21 2012 02:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The two of them being scum together, whew, that would actually be great. I would be restored in the faith of humanity. @ CheeseYeah, but I don't want you to figure out who is scum so you can preserve your faith in your humanity. What would be the most likely scumteam for you ? Think I said it before, JX/drazak makes the most sense for me ATM. JX is in danger of lynch, drazak starts the lurker wagon. That's all he's done this game and it fits quite well assuming JX is scum. Second scumteam would be Eywa/kush... I'm leaning off you right now. Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 13:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm JX/draz scum would fit very well. JX is up for lynch draz starts the lurker wagon, DYH hops on ASAP This post... Okay ! You meant morbidius wagon. I thought you were talking about the end of D2. Interesting... I'll have to look into it. Why are you suddenly leaning off me ?
Forgot about your rage against Eywa >.> lol
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On December 16 2012 08:14 drazak wrote:
Wat. I don't think anyone is sheeping on him. I really don't like how you're sheeping on him and agreeing that you're sheeping. You don't seem to have a lot of real reason for your vote other than sheeping, and I really don't like taht.
##vote Morbidius
Votes morb for sheeping onto the JX lynch (even when that's what a ton of others already did)
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@JX
Who should we lynch tomorrow?
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