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On December 17 2012 11:06 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently you know that I"m a townie, yet you're pushing me anyway Eywa.
Discuss. I don't really understand where this is coming from nor why you think it's valid.
On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
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Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.
Translation:
Hapa's townie, but you should lynch him anyway.
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On December 17 2012 11:08 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:07 Hapahauli wrote:On December 17 2012 11:06 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 11:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently you know that I"m a townie, yet you're pushing me anyway Eywa.
Discuss. I don't really understand where this is coming from nor why you think it's valid. On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
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Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.
Translation: Hapa's townie, but you should lynch him anyway. Yeha, what is a better word to put in this sentence... Admittedly, I should have done "townie", but I mean, that's a detail.
It's a rather scummy detail Mr. Scummers.
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On December 17 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote:
thrawn why is hapa town?
Weren't you the guy calling me town earlier?
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You could also elaborate on that scumread on Mr. Cheesecake of yours at your leisure.
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On December 17 2012 11:18 Hapahauli wrote:
You could also elaborate on that scumread on Mr. Cheesecake of yours at your leisure.
At your leisure Eywa
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On December 17 2012 11:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hapa, Eywa is totes always right about everything. Shouldn't we listen to him?
Yeah totally! We should vote for ourselves - we can discuss our plan together in the mafia QT =O
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On December 17 2012 11:28 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:26 Hapahauli wrote:On December 17 2012 11:18 Hapahauli wrote:
You could also elaborate on that scumread on Mr. Cheesecake of yours at your leisure. At your leisure Eywa I was asked who would be next if you were to go.
That doesn't mean you can throw out a name, say that he's mafia, and not provide any reasoning for it. So why is Mr. CC mafia? Explain.
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Can you explain why Mr. CC is scum Eywa?
On December 17 2012 10:54 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 10:50 DoYouHas wrote:
@Eywa - If you were to manage to get Hapa lynched tomorrow, who would be your next lynch choice given what you know now? Why? Next after hapa would be Mr. Cheesecake because he's mafia.
These are some pretty strong, and still unjustified words towards CC
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'sup kush
On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote:
so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.
djo is scum...more tomorrow.
hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum.
one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.
Since you're apparently up and about, can you elaborate on this? Perhaps a sneak preview.
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I'll post something tomorrow afternoon at longer length.
Off the top of my head...
DYH's play has been very non-involved. He pops in, offers a consensus opinion, and pops out. I'm not sure if he's scum, but he's one to keep an eye out for.
I still think JieXian is mafia. Despite his defense, his voting antics are really really strange. He ends up voting you (Thrawn) at the end of the day and I have no idea where his scumread came from. He was very suspicious of Mr. Cheesecake, had his vote parked on him, then out of nowhere does this:
On December 17 2012 05:53 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:shit it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow. Thrawn is an Opportunist
+ Show Spoiler +On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:ok ##Vote DjodrefShow nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.
what kind of information are you looking for? Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory. On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.
Wait, What's this?On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons
1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics
Didn't Thrawn V OTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him? On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun
##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake
pie is better and all you mo-fos need to start posting
Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie. On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...
you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.
he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town. PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.
Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome
i'll lynch lurkers
LURKERS
i will happily lynch you Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched. Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea! On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it But I still really really like a JX lynch! On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that! Why is Thrawn so indecisive?On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.
I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)
no this is a lie Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because xLater I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because xDjo why did you vote for Mr Zentor But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp. J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker. Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.
##Vote: Thrawn On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you. So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles? I get it Jx, you're really paranoid. If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME. If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so. Ok join me #Vote thrawn2122Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:REPOST: Just scanned Morbidius's filter. I wouldn't mind lynching him. There was the pre-emptive defensiveness that MrZ brought up earlier, as well as this: On December 17 2012 04:29 Morbidius wrote: On December 17 2012 04:16 MrZentor wrote:
Kush, I'd rather lynch scum than a lurker.
We should kill Morbidius. Hmm i made some light accusations against you and now you're full on calling me scum? That's quite the overeaction,which certainly doesn't help your case. I already had in mind the fact that you're either very noob town or noobish mafia. Either way a flip is worth more than you. ##unvote
##vote MrZentorJustifying lynching a "noob town." I don't think these things are 100% allignment indicative, but it's certainly scummy and the best chance we have for a red flip IMO. if MrZ was town he was playing noob enough for me to go nuts for him
... so he votes the candidate that one of his top scumreads is pushing? Errrrrrrrg.
JieXian justifies his vote with this...
On December 17 2012 06:13 JieXian wrote:I was challenging mr cc if he'd remove his vote as he seemed ready to vote for thrawn Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:shit it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow. Thrawn is an Opportunist
+ Show Spoiler +On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:ok ##Vote DjodrefShow nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.
what kind of information are you looking for? Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory. On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.
Wait, What's this?On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons
1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics
Didn't Thrawn V OTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him? On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun
##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake
pie is better and all you mo-fos need to start posting
Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie. On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...
you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.
he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town. PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.
Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome
i'll lynch lurkers
LURKERS
i will happily lynch you Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched. Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea! On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it But I still really really like a JX lynch! On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that! Why is Thrawn so indecisive?On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.
I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)
no this is a lie Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because xLater I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because xDjo why did you vote for Mr Zentor But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp. J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker. Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.
##Vote: Thrawn On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you. So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles? I get it Jx, you're really paranoid. If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME. If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so. Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lol JX, what reason do you have to vote thrawn? Also, didn't you think I was scum? Why would you agree with me. and he's getting more and more contradictory as he posts
... but it's pretty unconvincing. He voted thrawn to "dare" Mr. Cheesecake to vote him? I'm not really buying it - it reads a lot like JieXian doesn't give a shit about who dies.
As for others, Mr. Zentor is quite the enigma to me, though I'm leaning town on him for his willingness to push the Morbidius lynch through. Even if it was wrong, he stepped up and prevented the no-lynch which is townie motivated.
Drazak hasn't done much, but I think he's town. A mix of gut-feeling, as well as his passiveness/cooperative-ness is actually one of his town traits. Careful with him - he's an easy guy to lynch regardless of alignment.
If for whatever reason Eywa doesn't flip mafia, kush is someone to look at pretty hard.
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Exhibit C:
On December 17 2012 03:06 Eywa- wrote:
It is not my first time playing mafia, it is my first time playing TL Mafia. Previous character profiles are a nuisance to the town, they generally bring people to quick and unfortunate assumptions, if someone plays a certain way 10 times and are a townie every time, why wouldn't they play the same way once they got mafia?
It's common sense... Previous knowledge can be used for serious meta-games, stay away from it.
Otherwise, it suffices to say that: I am not going to jump on someone else's band wagon just because it's a popular choice. I will remain with my vote on hapahauli. I don't believe him to be a town.
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Repost: (Bottom of page yadda yadda)
Exhibit C:
On December 17 2012 03:06 Eywa- wrote:
It is not my first time playing mafia, it is my first time playing TL Mafia. Previous character profiles are a nuisance to the town, they generally bring people to quick and unfortunate assumptions, if someone plays a certain way 10 times and are a townie every time, why wouldn't they play the same way once they got mafia?
It's common sense... Previous knowledge can be used for serious meta-games, stay away from it.
Otherwise, it suffices to say that: I am not going to jump on someone else's band wagon just because it's a popular choice. I will remain with my vote on hapahauli. I don't believe him to be a town.
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Like it took me 15 seconds to find that in his filter kush. Really?
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Like geesus christ kush...
On December 17 2012 06:09 Eywa- wrote:
Q: Which townie predicted this?
A: Eywa-
I'd like to thank the other civilians for not realising that there are 3 scum and that the votes simply had a very low % chance of adding up to Morbidius being a mafia member.
On December 17 2012 06:14 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 06:09 Hapahauli wrote:
And thrawn, your last-minute antics read a lot like you didn't give much of a shit about who got lynched. Care to explain your actions a bit? Your last minute antics could have saved the townie... Care to explain yourself? I need to know this as well (since it's not blatantly obvious)...
On December 17 2012 07:49 Eywa- wrote:
It didn't make sense to push for people to lynch you because they don't want to. I just wanted to throw the idea out there and advice the townies that they'd be killing off another townie... If I had any possibility of describing why he was a civilian in a manner the population of this town could understand, I would. Quite simply, there was nothing I could do to sway their votes.
...
And that's just on page 2 of his filter. There's even more on page 3 and 4.
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On December 17 2012 14:42 kushm4sta wrote:
w/e he's not scared enough, not "clean" (thanks for that word hapa) enough to be first time scum.
Well he's not a first-time scum. Apparently he's pretty familiar with playing mafia in whatever setting he does.
Also, not all first-time scum are clean or even passive for that matter. Scum can be active and crazy, but their motivations show while doing so.
So he's been defending himself tonight "actively" but has absolutely nothing of substance to show for it. He's screamed that "hapa = bandwaggoning" several times, and made a couple of snide remarks. He's dropped a "Mr. CC is mafia" read and has been resistant to all attempts to get him to explain it.
It's an active defense, but it's scummy as shit.
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It still means that he knows how to play. Well anyway, I need to sleep, so we can continue this tomorrow afternoon. I'm expecting to elaborate on this in the mean time:
On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote:
so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.
djo is scum...more tomorrow.
hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum.
one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.
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Oh, and to whoever won the witchraft elections
Please consider checking either Mr. Zentor, DoYouHas, or drazak. Check these guys and claim when you're safe.
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On December 17 2012 21:28 JieXian wrote:
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I was pushing for a no-lynch over someone who I read as townie.
Ever since that post below which started making me doubt you, your logic has been terrible and I gave you the BOTD while waiting for you to answer me and after pushing the morbidius lynch and your arguements with eywa you have been screaming schum
Where in your filter do you read morbidius as townie? I haven't found it.
Also, where in your filter do you even push against the morbidius lynch? I'll give you a hint - you dont.
On December 16 2012 20:35 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On December 16 2012 16:55 Hapahauli wrote:[
It seems pretty similar in content really. Any difference IMO is pretty easily explained by the seeming consensus lynch target in this game atm (you).
Speaking of the lynch, at this point I'm less interested in seeing you go after MrZ, and more interested in you read-dumping. The reads you've provided so far are pretty... non-controversial. You have two town-reads on the most active players in the game, and a scum-read on a troll-type player. There are many other people I want to hear your opinions about: Djo, Drazak, Kush... that's the analysis I want to see you provide.
explain that[/QUOTE]
It's pretty straightforward. You had a town read on myself and DP, which virtually everyone in the game at that point had a town read on. You also had a scumread on the town troll.
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On December 17 2012 22:24 Eywa- wrote:
Hmmm... Since most people seem to think hapa and cheeseboard are town, why don't we meet in the middle and kill djodref.. Who, if you two are both innocent has a very high probability of being scum.
Backing down all of a sudden are we?
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@JieXian
Where did you run off to? I asked you a question, and I expect responses for these things:
Where in your filter do you read morbidius as townie? I haven't found it.
@ Eywa
You throwing around names without reasoning isn't doing town any good. Explain why you think Mr. CC and Djo are scum. You've given zero rationale for it.
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