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On December 18 2012 08:06 MrZentor wrote:
Yet again, people are voting based on whether somebody is pro town or not.
Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill.
It's the nature of the game, people will lynch those who actually guess right because they don't conform (scum do it because they'd be dead otherwise).
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On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:
And I'm not sure why you think he's town. He's just being confrontational. He's not providing analysis, he's not doing much of anything. He's just mudslinging. It's very easy for mafia to sit and spam "OMG HE"S SCUM SCUM SCUM." That's exactly what Eywa is doing. How many people has he called scum in the past 10 minutes? 5... 6...?
1, only mister cheesecake.
Your constant trying to defend him without being able to counter any argument I brought about him simply means you're not thinking analytically or are scum, which is a problem. Either option is still open... I've stuck on two people all game because I sincerely think they're scum... Now stop lying about me to make a case.
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On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok. actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect. Last post on JieXian or on CC?
On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to.
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On December 18 2012 08:01 Djodref wrote:
##Vote Eywa
Doesn't even take time to read a case.
Town atmosphere = shit
constructive discussion = 0
On the contrary, all evidence I've presented has been ignored with false claims being made that I had presented none... Given that you should be voting for yourself (since you ignored both cases I made).
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On December 18 2012 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm going to assume your post on JieXian. The problem is that you're holding some non-sensical and arbitrary double-standard, where JieXian is allowed to vote for whoever he wants because his top scumread is "never getting lynched", but CC on the other hand is scum for voting Morbidius when his own top scumread (thrawn) has no chance of getting lynched.
Wrong, You think that CC actually thought Morb was guilty, on the contrary, he publicly stated otherwise.
Also wrong thinking I have a double standard, I don't mind killing jie xian given that there is a potential of him being scum, but I won't do so until I check my hypothesis about cheesegrater.
All of your claims about me are proven false, yet you still make them... I don't understand where your logic spurs from.
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On December 18 2012 08:19 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:16 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok. actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect. Last post on JieXian or on CC? On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to. A half-assed attempt to save a townie is not grounds to believe someone is town. It's really easy (and common) for mafia to defend townies they know will hang. They know townies allignment - it's a riskless play for mafia since they know they'll be right.
It's more so reason to believe someone is town than a religious hold on proving that there isn't enough evidence to kill your friend while the same evidence is presented about someone else who becomes "obvious mafia"... How do you think this is a good play? It may fly, but that's only because the town has lost sense of the objective of the game.
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On December 18 2012 08:21 Hapahauli wrote:
You believe in some magical mafia world where townies are always right about things, and mafia are always pushing the wrong things. This is completely false. Perhaps amongst your friends this has some merit, but on TL this is simply not true.
Townies are often wrong. Townies don't know allignments. They push emotional mislynches, are easily maniuplated... etc. Scum on the other hand know exactly who's town and who's not. It's really fucking easy for them to defend a townie and claim town cred for it when the townie flips. It happens all the time.
You're the one pushing for emotional mislynches (or pretending to do so), so why not stop and think.
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I hope everyone sees that, despite my methods being a little unethical, hapa has been slipping and sliding like a racing car on an oil covered track... It's not about who's been nice to the town, it's not about who you like better... It's about who's picking out the scum. And though I haven't been nice, my story has remained the same, I've played the same character with the same few points.
Hapa has ignored the points I've created which valid and made arguments that only work with the assumption that those points never existed. He has an obsession with cheesecake and a mafiaslip to his name. He's also the only one to change his character (emotional state) 5 times now during the game... I really don't see how any more is needed to see who the scum are and it's the two I pointed out from the start.
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On December 18 2012 08:27 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:18 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 08:01 Djodref wrote:
##Vote Eywa
Doesn't even take time to read a case.
Town atmosphere = shit
constructive discussion = 0 On the contrary, all evidence I've presented has been ignored with false claims being made that I had presented none... Given that you should be voting for yourself (since you ignored both cases I made). Your cases are shit... See the kind of posts I make. I expect even more than that from you right now. Stop shitting the thread and post an extensive case against Cheesecake.
If you can't be bothered to read and want to lose the game (if you're town) because of it, then go ahead and do so. I've everything I've written is clearly worded.
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On December 18 2012 08:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Rofl. Accusing Djo of not reading. That's funny coming from you.
I've read everything in this thread including all of your half assed attempts at describing why stuff isn't as it seems... I'm sorry, if you have to explain for that much shit, it's because your plan has more holes than swiss cheese.
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I've made my case, civilian likely to be voted out today again, good job mafia.
##unvote
##vote eywa-
I'm going to eat, later.
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On December 18 2012 10:02 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 09:57 MrZentor wrote:But if We have no fucking way of knowing what scum would do or not do. How do we know that a scum won't try t acot like an helpful, active townie? Are you talking about Hapa here ? Because I don't see him pushing a scum agenda. I mean, okay, he could be playing a hell of a scum game. But there are so many players here being sooo scummy. Like Eywa, JieXan, Kush or even you with your attempts to out the blues. Did you read my case again Kush ? Not to mention Drazak or DYH that you don't even know what they are doing in this game. Hapa is alsmost townie by elimination here.
If you're knowledgeable by experience, I weep for the future of humanity.
#unvote
#vote Eywa-
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On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?
thrawn was proven innocent, Cc just doesn't know the difference between left and right.
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On December 18 2012 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday? Was too busy yesterday focusing on Eywa bullshit, etc. I believe I mentioned somewhere that he posted his list of scumreads --- which didn't include me. I wondered at this, because he thought I was scum / voted for me D1. If he hadn't died, I'd still have a scumread on his ass, and probably push him second to Eywa. Obviously that's not going to happen right now.
Obviously the people you push for are generally scum... Given you've never yet picked one out your record is about... 0%
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On December 18 2012 10:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Screaming that he's lying =/= good way to figure out if someone's scum. Be quiet while I try and get productive answers from people.
I'm just saying, when someone has a 0% guess rate, they're generally scum... It's not that hard to link the dots.
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On December 18 2012 10:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 10:52 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday? thrawn was proven innocent, Cc just doesn't know the difference between left and right. LOL this is a clarity-class scum post right here. The opportune moment post. And you, Eywa, obviously don't know the difference between town and scum. Well, maybe you do, because you are scum.
That statement stands more for you because none of my guesses have been proven wrong, all of yours have... I think your problem is with the understanding of basic mathematics.
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On December 18 2012 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 10:56 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 10:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Screaming that he's lying =/= good way to figure out if someone's scum. Be quiet while I try and get productive answers from people. I'm just saying, when someone has a 0% guess rate, they're generally scum... It's not that hard to link the dots. Well, I'm pretty sure you have a 0% guess rate too, because I'm town.
I guess we should just take your word for it? I mean, it's not suspicious at all that you guys are banding in a group of 3 who always agree with each other while a bunch of other people do their own thing.
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On December 18 2012 10:58 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday? Was too busy yesterday focusing on Eywa bullshit, etc. I believe I mentioned somewhere that he posted his list of scumreads --- which didn't include me. I wondered at this, because he thought I was scum / voted for me D1. If he hadn't died, I'd still have a scumread on his ass, and probably push him second to Eywa. Obviously that's not going to happen right now. Well you didn't do much yesterday other than address "Eywa bullshit" and hard defend me. The lack of scumhunting outside your D1 case on thrawn is rather disturbing. And tunneling Eywa really doesn't satisfy the "scumhunting" quota.
I'm not voting for him anymore, just so you know.
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On December 18 2012 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 10:58 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 10:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 18 2012 10:52 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday? thrawn was proven innocent, Cc just doesn't know the difference between left and right. LOL this is a clarity-class scum post right here. The opportune moment post. And you, Eywa, obviously don't know the difference between town and scum. Well, maybe you do, because you are scum. That statement stands more for you because none of my guesses have been proven wrong, all of yours have... I think your problem is with the understanding of basic mathematics. You're such an idiot, please stop talking scum.
I'm sorry, is the math of finding out who has a lower guess rate than 0% difficult?
Let's run a simple exercise... I have 10 apples, I give you none. How many less apples could I have given you?
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