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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#1685
On December 20 2012 02:35 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:23 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that's literally no more than a couple of hours to get everyone to bandwagon onto Thrawn. Zero people showed the slightest interest. You did, but it was rather feigned.

So calm yourself.


On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you.


if it was feigned why did you had to shut me up


+ Show Spoiler +
On December 17 2012 02:56 JieXian wrote:
EDIT

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:
On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:
On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc


Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie


lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to imply

my read on zentor is still null.


hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it

I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperative

Reading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him.





I was talking to Kush about what lurkers he had in mind.

Then you started being like "I'm still waiting for him to make his response" what have you. The post wasn't directed towards you, it was directed at Kush.


Let me be sure, so you're saying you shut me up because I was being irritating bringing up something unimportant while you and kush were discussing?

If that's the case then I can cool down


No, you were just responding to something that didn't have anything to do with you. It's not that it was irrelevant, it's that I have no clue why you responded to a question that you weren't asked.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#1693
On December 20 2012 02:41 JieXian wrote:
I was not irrelevant? So maybe it was somewhat relevant but you weren't interested?

I don't get that harsh response


Harsh? It was just jaded by the fact that you gave a 3-post answer to something that wasn't addressed to you. Nothing more.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:43 GMT
#1695
On December 20 2012 02:41 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:38 MrZentor wrote:
Eywa, you should as town compromise.

Or we're going to no lynch and lose.

DYH is way more scummy than cc.

Your entire investigation of DYH is reliant on him being a very strong and confident mafia member, which he doesn't seem to be... Mafia members find it hard to push targets unless they're the second to the story or it's an easy target... Your case was neither. Mr.CC is just that guy with no backbone who follows and tries to not be seen. Considering that added up with his countless mistakes, he's an obvious pick for the lynch.


Really, what are these "mistakes" as you put them? The only thing that I'm guilty of is lack of scumhunting and blatant sheeping, which I admit.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#1698
On December 20 2012 02:43 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:41 JieXian wrote:
I was not irrelevant? So maybe it was somewhat relevant but you weren't interested?

I don't get that harsh response


Harsh? It was just jaded by the fact that you gave a 3-post answer to something that wasn't addressed to you. Nothing more.

Nitpicking some third party which isn't really being discussed as a lynch, another mafia trait (especially when it's paired with people who don't make decisions).


What? lol. You are so anti-town it's not even funny.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:45 GMT
#1701
On December 20 2012 02:44 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:41 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:38 MrZentor wrote:
Eywa, you should as town compromise.

Or we're going to no lynch and lose.

DYH is way more scummy than cc.

Your entire investigation of DYH is reliant on him being a very strong and confident mafia member, which he doesn't seem to be... Mafia members find it hard to push targets unless they're the second to the story or it's an easy target... Your case was neither. Mr.CC is just that guy with no backbone who follows and tries to not be seen. Considering that added up with his countless mistakes, he's an obvious pick for the lynch.


Really, what are these "mistakes" as you put them? The only thing that I'm guilty of is lack of scumhunting and blatant sheeping, which I admit.

Not to mention your case on thrawn, your numerous slips in your rage against me... It just piles up.


Case on Thrawn? That isn't a "mistake" at all. slips in rage? Point some out please.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:47 GMT
#1703
On December 20 2012 02:45 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:41 JieXian wrote:
I was not irrelevant? So maybe it was somewhat relevant but you weren't interested?

I don't get that harsh response


Harsh? It was just jaded by the fact that you gave a 3-post answer to something that wasn't addressed to you. Nothing more.


ok so you found that irritating and snapped

sort of?


Well, isn't it a bit odd if you're discussing with someone and then someone else gives these posts like "oh this this and this". It's not irrelevant, it's just -- I was looking specifically for Kush's response.

I think you misinterpret my tone in that post, though. It wasn't angry at all.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:50 GMT
#1709
On December 20 2012 02:48 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:45 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:41 JieXian wrote:
I was not irrelevant? So maybe it was somewhat relevant but you weren't interested?

I don't get that harsh response


Harsh? It was just jaded by the fact that you gave a 3-post answer to something that wasn't addressed to you. Nothing more.


ok so you found that irritating and snapped

sort of?


Well, isn't it a bit odd if you're discussing with someone and then someone else gives these posts like "oh this this and this". It's not irrelevant, it's just -- I was looking specifically for Kush's response.

I think you misinterpret my tone in that post, though. It wasn't angry at all.

........... ok

so you didn't happen to care about what I have to say at the moment that's all?


Because I was asking Kush, precisely. It just seemed like you were overbearing a little.

Generally, answering questions that aren't addressed to you is a scumtrait.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:56 GMT
#1718
On December 20 2012 02:55 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:48 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:45 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:41 JieXian wrote:
I was not irrelevant? So maybe it was somewhat relevant but you weren't interested?

I don't get that harsh response


Harsh? It was just jaded by the fact that you gave a 3-post answer to something that wasn't addressed to you. Nothing more.


ok so you found that irritating and snapped

sort of?


Well, isn't it a bit odd if you're discussing with someone and then someone else gives these posts like "oh this this and this". It's not irrelevant, it's just -- I was looking specifically for Kush's response.

I think you misinterpret my tone in that post, though. It wasn't angry at all.

........... ok

so you didn't happen to care about what I have to say at the moment that's all?


Because I was asking Kush, precisely. It just seemed like you were overbearing a little.

Generally, answering questions that aren't addressed to you is a scumtrait.


ok fine.

So you claim to be interested in the thrawn case but was disappointed that no one bit

in comes me who was interested in it

But you were talking to kush so I was ovebearing


You didn't seem too interested in the thrawn case at all



You weren't biting. You were just waiting for his reponse, or said that you found him scummy if I recall.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:58 GMT
#1719
I refer:

If I was scum I would have pushed the Thrawn lynch no matter what. Morb dies, I can flame at everyone and push his mislynch today. It's just the better choice. As town, I don't want to see a mislynch. I have to consolidate and realize that my Thrawn case had zero traction in the thread.

If you can't see that, JX, I'm sorry.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:58 GMT
#1721
I also feel like that Thrawn kill was a way to frame me... Why would I kill him as scum? He's after all an integral part of my play.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 17:59 GMT
#1723
On December 20 2012 02:58 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:55 MrZentor wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:52 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:50 MrZentor wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:47 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:44 MrZentor wrote:
As scum the easiest thing to do is to pick a target (me) and push that target the whole game, ignoring everything else.

And DYH isn't strong or confident. He's just mindlessly pushing for my lynch. It's an extremely easy to execute and effective scum strategy.

Also, I am SUCH an easy target.


I was an easy target D1

was everyone who were pushing for me scum?


The reason DYH is scum isn't that he is pushing an easy target. You're missing the point.

He's tunneling me, all game, ignoring everything else. That's scum play.

Who else has done that?

I have... But it's because I'm right and I've never second guessed... Evidence just piles on and on and on.


No, you have commented on other things beside who you want to kill many times; you're not ignoring everything else like he is.

Commented on, never changed my mind. Also, CC is neither lurking nor asleep, he is actively posting and ignoring my previous post (likely because he is stuck between a rock and a hard place).


There's nothing to comment on. You're either mega confirmation biased or scum.

I'm not fundraising all day today, so I do have a bit of time to participate here.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:00 GMT
#1726
On December 20 2012 03:00 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXan

Here is the summary of the points against DYH. I would like to remind you that the cases against Kush are far better
Especially mines ^^
Anyway...
  • unemotional and not involved in this game
  • "clean" play, generally blending in
  • generally lurking
  • Disputable case on MrZ, which could be a way for him to avoid to contribute for real


@ Eywa

Could you do the same thing for CC ? It took me like 5 minutes


Please.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:03 GMT
#1728
On December 20 2012 03:02 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 02:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I refer:

If I was scum I would have pushed the Thrawn lynch no matter what. Morb dies, I can flame at everyone and push his mislynch today. It's just the better choice. As town, I don't want to see a mislynch. I have to consolidate and realize that my Thrawn case had zero traction in the thread.

If you can't see that, JX, I'm sorry.


? You can't push his mislynch as scum because you started the huge case


This makes no sense. The optimal scum play is to push the Thrawn lynch. It has NO chance to actually go through. I'm not suspicious for voting Morb, I can push his mislynch today. It just works out better.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:06 GMT
#1732
On December 20 2012 03:05 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:00 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXan

Here is the summary of the points against DYH. I would like to remind you that the cases against Kush are far better
Especially mines ^^
Anyway...
  • unemotional and not involved in this game
  • "clean" play, generally blending in
  • generally lurking
  • Disputable case on MrZ, which could be a way for him to avoid to contribute for real


@ Eywa

Could you do the same thing for CC ? It took me like 5 minutes


Please.


I'm trying to reason him...


I was asking him to please do so :p
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:10 GMT
#1736
On December 20 2012 03:08 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:02 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I refer:

If I was scum I would have pushed the Thrawn lynch no matter what. Morb dies, I can flame at everyone and push his mislynch today. It's just the better choice. As town, I don't want to see a mislynch. I have to consolidate and realize that my Thrawn case had zero traction in the thread.

If you can't see that, JX, I'm sorry.


? You can't push his mislynch as scum because you started the huge case


This makes no sense. The optimal scum play is to push the Thrawn lynch. It has NO chance to actually go through. I'm not suspicious for voting Morb, I can push his mislynch today. It just works out better.


How would you know? Anything can happen and it baffled me that I got off the hook on D1 because of some apparent scumslip that morb made about lurkers != scum


Because I've played scum once before, and I know that's what I would have done. It just makes sense. I'm not worried about coming off scummy, that's why I'd rather get Morb lynched for information rather than go with a no-lynch and push Thrawn.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:12 GMT
#1741
On December 20 2012 03:11 JieXian wrote:
WIFOM


I'll give you that one, but it's true.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:15 GMT
#1744
On December 20 2012 03:11 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:08 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:02 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I refer:

If I was scum I would have pushed the Thrawn lynch no matter what. Morb dies, I can flame at everyone and push his mislynch today. It's just the better choice. As town, I don't want to see a mislynch. I have to consolidate and realize that my Thrawn case had zero traction in the thread.

If you can't see that, JX, I'm sorry.


? You can't push his mislynch as scum because you started the huge case


This makes no sense. The optimal scum play is to push the Thrawn lynch. It has NO chance to actually go through. I'm not suspicious for voting Morb, I can push his mislynch today. It just works out better.


How would you know? Anything can happen and it baffled me that I got off the hook on D1 because of some apparent scumslip that morb made about lurkers != scum


Because I've played scum once before, and I know that's what I would have done. It just makes sense. I'm not worried about coming off scummy, that's why I'd rather get Morb lynched for information rather than go with a no-lynch and push Thrawn.

You realise, a no-lynch in a scenario where certain people want the lynch can also be very telling. And telling us that you'd have played differently if you were scum while having previously said that you always play this way seems a little bit like a slip.


No, it can't be telling. We have no clue of Morb's alignment then. Could be town pushing for scum lynch, town pushing for town lynch, scum pushing for mislynch, we can't put anything together without a flip.

The only thing I said I "play this way" is buddying my top town read, as town. I'm usually more vindictive about my reads, but with all of this shitflinging and IRL stuff I haven't had time.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:16 GMT
#1746
On December 20 2012 03:13 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
holy fuck you guys spam like no other.
can you stop clogging the thread with worthless back and forths maybe? ill be back in like an hour

I didn't realise that his scumslip was worthless information.


You're really probing for stuff that isn't there.

There is no scumslip... I can't even begin to fathom where I've done a scumslip.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#1751
On December 20 2012 03:20 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:13 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
holy fuck you guys spam like no other.
can you stop clogging the thread with worthless back and forths maybe? ill be back in like an hour

I didn't realise that his scumslip was worthless information.


You're really probing for stuff that isn't there.

There is no scumslip... I can't even begin to fathom where I've done a scumslip.

You said if you were scum you'd have played differently, yet previously you said you always play the same... That's a pretty big slip.


Where did I say I always play the same. Go.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#1755
On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa

They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples.


As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read.

This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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