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@ Kush
So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game.
So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs.
Wait the fuck? You just got done talking to me about how you wanted to lynch an assortment of lurkers, we have 4-5 players under 5 posts, and lurking isn't a problem?
@ CC
Aww man - hope everything's atleast a bit better out there. Take your time getting back into things
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On December 16 2012 11:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
so I've been told by both dp and hapa that they disagree with my read on kush, but could you guys give reasons why you disagree?
He's not all that whiny or angry.
Some of his ideas though... good lord.
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On December 16 2012 11:24 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 11:18 Hapahauli wrote:@ KushSo when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game.
So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs. Wait the fuck? You just got done talking to me about how you wanted to lynch an assortment of lurkers, we have 4-5 players under 5 posts, and lurking isn't a problem? I don't want to lynch an assortment of lurkers. You misunderstand me. I want to lynch everyone I consider unreadable due to lurking, and I hope that is as few people as possible. Under 5 posts doesn't mean you are a lurker. Over 5 posts doesn't mean you aren't a lurker. It's all about the content of those posts. Like right now the only lurkers I really want to lynch is Mr Zentor and threesr. And that will change if they post more. Except threesr because i know he's not going to post more... he said he even said he was gonna do a lurker strat lol
So why don't you want to lynch JieXian then? He's far more lurky than MrZ.
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On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...
you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.
he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town.
Yeah I get where you're coming from. The problem is that he's capable of those things as scum or town.
I tend to read him more on emotion though, and him being more collected is more towards his town personality.
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On December 16 2012 14:11 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 14:01 Djodref wrote:On December 16 2012 13:55 MrZentor wrote:
Djo, you're missing something.
Something big.
Look at all the cases on JieXan.
They're all based on his reaction to ME.
I had a part in each and every one of those cases in that I formed the foundation of them; why should I repeat what they say to you? That's not true !DYH's case is based on how JieXan is going after you. On the opposite, my case against JieXan is based on his scumslip regarding DP and Hapa. And to answer your question, you have to give your own reasons for wanting to lynch JieXan. So we can have a better read on you. I don't understand how you can be so sure that JieXan is going to flip scum and I want you to explain yourself ! Yeah, it might have but a bit of an exaggeration, but you get point. ' And you have an excellent read on me, knowing that I am purposefully not giving you my reasons as to why I think JieXan is scum. Would a scum take that risk?
MrZ, you have to understand that while your "townieness" (if you're town) is self-evident to you, it's not evident to us with your current attitude. Just as easily as it is to argue your way ("scum wouldn't take the risk"), it's also easy to argue the other way ("scum don't want to provide analysis // scum wants to sheep non-confrontationally"). .
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JieXian,
Your case against MrZ rings rather hollow. You claim differences in his meta as one of your main points, but you completely failed to address his town game in Paranoia Mini...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=137099
... where he played in a very similar style to what he's doing now.
Now I don't like his play, but I have no grounds to call him scum yet. It baffles my mind that you made a meta case on MrZ without including his most recent game!
So if you believe he's scum, what's the difference between here and Paranoia?
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On December 16 2012 16:50 JieXian wrote:i didn't include that game because I opened the filter and thought that it wasn't over Show nested quote +Filters
Will be Listed Here, along with Day/Night
- Hide Spoiler [Important Posts] -
End of D1
End of N1
End of D2
End of N2 Yes, he's a lot quieter than the other games I read through but you can't deny the existence of reads in the first page of his filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=137099
It seems pretty similar in content really. Any difference IMO is pretty easily explained by the seeming consensus lynch target in this game atm (you).
Speaking of the lynch, at this point I'm less interested in seeing you go after MrZ, and more interested in you read-dumping. The reads you've provided so far are pretty... non-controversial. You have two town-reads on the most active players in the game, and a scum-read on a troll-type player. There are many other people I want to hear your opinions about: Djo, Drazak, Kush... that's the analysis I want to see you provide.
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On December 16 2012 17:19 Morbidius wrote:
JX does have a decent case against MrZ, but its not like i trust either of them.
Can you give your own thoughts on MrZ? Or anyone other than JX for that matter.
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Since you didn't answer this before - it sounds like this isn't your first game... what experience you have playing mafia? Haven't seen you around here before.
Also, I'm particularly interested in hearing your reads on Drazak, kush, and Djodref. Though I won't read 'em until tomorrow since I'm going to bed.
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Heya folks, just catching up at the moment - any requests?
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Idunno, the activity is much more than I expected.
Also I was wondering when someone would make a terrible case on me, and Eywa has delivered
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DYH is rather lurky, but I've rather liked some of the stuff he's posted. I think he has a chance of flipping scum, but no more than some of the other players who have magically showed up as of late.
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I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me:
On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent.
The hell is this?
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On December 17 2012 05:03 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:00 Hapahauli wrote:
DYH is rather lurky, but I've rather liked some of the stuff he's posted. I think he has a chance of flipping scum, but no more than some of the other players who have magically showed up as of late. But DYH hasn't showed up. He posted what he posted just enough to be not considered a lurker then proceeded to lurk. Also what do you like in there?? It's like I read it and I instantly forget what I've read because it's all just so shitty in such a boring an inconsequential way.
If it comes down to lynching a random lurker, I don't mind DYH. However, I want to lynch the scummiest lurker.
In one sense, I agree with you in that his play has been remarkably "clean." He hasn't posted much, and his one contribution is an "overkill" case against JieXian. However, I can only go and lynch those types of players (and reliably hit scum) when I have reasons not to lynch others. And I have plenty of reasons to lynch players like Erwa, threesr, etc.
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On December 17 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me: On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent. The hell is this? Means you guys are going to lynch an acolyte... Also, you're reacting offensively to the fact I called you out, yet you expect it due to the nature of your posts. Your entire strategy seems to be around looking like a mafia member.
It's disturbing that you know JX's alignment without having provided any analysis on him.
##Vote Eywa
Also, I really don't understand much of your case on me. You accuse me of bandwaggon hopping, when I've been going around and actively getting people to post. My default strategy as town is to go around and pressure as many players as I can to get discussion going. It's on full display in any of my past town games, and I invite you to take a look through my game-history.
In addition, you feel that I'm being the "friendly" mafia, when in fact I'm going around and being anything but. Voting and pressuring multiple players is not the way to be "friendly" in this game, and you're vastly twisting my motives with a generic "bandwagoning" term.
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On December 17 2012 05:14 MrZentor wrote:
Eywa isn't scum.
-.-
Care to explain?
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On December 17 2012 05:15 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:11 Hapahauli wrote:On December 17 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me: On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent. The hell is this? Means you guys are going to lynch an acolyte... Also, you're reacting offensively to the fact I called you out, yet you expect it due to the nature of your posts. Your entire strategy seems to be around looking like a mafia member. It's disturbing that you know JX's alignment without having provided any analysis on him. ##Vote EywaAlso, I really don't understand much of your case on me. You accuse me of bandwaggon hopping, when I've been going around and actively getting people to post. My default strategy as town is to go around and pressure as many players as I can to get discussion going. It's on full display in any of my past town games, and I invite you to take a look through my game-history. In addition, you feel that I'm being the "friendly" mafia, when in fact I'm going around and being anything but. Voting and pressuring multiple players is not the way to be "friendly" in this game, and you're vastly twisting my motives with a generic "bandwagoning" term. 1) Nobody should care about your past games, trying to get people to base your play off of past games is pretty scum considering you can be applying the same strategy from either side. 2) You've accused 5-6 different people in today, how is that not band wagon hopping? 3) You expected people to call you out based on your senseless accusations thrown left and right, why act as though it's a surprise all of a sudden?
I've accused 5-6 people today since they've all been shitty lurkers. The best way to get people to post is to accuse them of being mafia - then they come out of the woodworks and post.
You act like I think all my targets now are mafia. I don't. In fact I'm leaning town on most of my previous targets.
But please explain your read on JX, and how you pulled that out of your ass without EVER having posted on him in your filter.
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@ DP
My vote is on Eywa until he shows that this isn't a scumslip:
On December 17 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me: On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent. The hell is this? Means you guys are going to lynch an acolyte... Also, you're reacting offensively to the fact I called you out, yet you expect it due to the nature of your posts. Your entire strategy seems to be around looking like a mafia member.
He's calling JX town without having ever posted any analysis on him. I call BS.
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On December 17 2012 05:22 threesr wrote:
##unvote jiexian
##vote morbidius
Post you twat.
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