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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#2785
And btw, it's your job to convince me right now that you're not scum. Because your pre-lynch behavior was inexcusable from a town perspective. As is your read.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#2786
On December 24 2012 09:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Also: Why did you "check" Ghost? Why not Eywa? Djo? These would make more sense considering they were your scumreads.


Drazak was my scumread at that point in the game. Djo was not. Why are you lying?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:34 GMT
#2790
That's a deflection if I ever saw one. Why would a JX + Kush alliance make sense? Tell me, and then I'll post why you're wrong.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:37 GMT
#2793
On December 24 2012 09:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Also: Why did you "check" Ghost? Why not Eywa? Djo? These would make more sense considering they were your scumreads.


Drazak was my scumread at that point in the game. Djo was not. Why are you lying?


Why? He was a lurker being replaced. I don't understand why you'd check him over someone who was as scummy as Eywa.


Cop checks are about eliminating possibilities, not checking top scumreads. Why would I check a guy that I thought was going to check red? Cop checks are for people you know nothing about.

See Cop Guide:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232671
2.) Don't investigate scummy people that are almost surely going to be lynched

The reason for this is that if there is a Vigilante in the game, chances are they will shoot them. Don't waste your night. Investigate other scummy people that are off the radar of the town.


See Newbie XXIII Post-Game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=59#1164
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:38 GMT
#2794
On December 24 2012 09:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a deflection if I ever saw one. Why would a JX + Kush alliance make sense? Tell me, and then I'll post why you're wrong.


It doesn't make much sense at all. That's why im trying to rationalize it, which i was doing most of D3 with everyone else. I dismissed kush/jx because it didn't make sense. Kush pushed a JX lynch, I don't see his motiv for doing that when he could have just bussed DYH hardcore. I still think its a very very slight possibility, but you and ghost seem to be the scumteam if I discount kush/jx


So if I can prove that I'm town with ghost (which I can after the witchcraft elections tonight 100% guaranteed AT MINIMUM), who would be your scumteam?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:42 GMT
#2796
There are many ways, here's one:

No one votes except for me. I vote for (player X). Player X wins witchcraft.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:43 GMT
#2797
When you start adding more players and creating "teams" of votes, you get pretty close to solving the game. I can probably solve things given my JK on kush. Once I prove that, the scumteam falls one by one.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:45 GMT
#2798
On December 24 2012 09:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
My scumread on you is inexusable from a town perspective? JX thinks you're scummy too.


JX was atleast consistent. Crazy, but consistent all game with it. You went from "hapa's my buddy 100% town" to "why you so good at scum?"
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:46 GMT
#2799
So the trick to solving the game is devising a team where upon the results of the witchcraft election can prove that kush and I are town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:48 GMT
#2802
On December 24 2012 09:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I actually like that idea Hapa. Everybody vote for nobody. Hapa, vote for Kush or JX or someone you think is town.


But the trick is to devise something even better!

Until then, please bus Djo.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 00:57 GMT
#2805
On December 24 2012 09:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
So the trick to solving the game is devising a team where upon the results of the witchcraft election can prove that kush and I are town.


Wait why do you need to prove Kush town? I thought you were trying to prove Ghost town.


Because I need to make sure that I didn't block scum-kush taking the shot silly.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:20 GMT
#2807
Because I had zero information on Drazak beyond "hm I think he's mafia based on process of elimination." It's a standard check every time.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:31 GMT
#2808
For the record, marv just built up a 20 page scum filter in Hero Mini Mafia. That's like 10 pages longer than ANY mafia filter EVER on TL.net.

If you actually think I'm scum with 27 pages of filter and counting, you're tripping on something serious. Or you're scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:38 GMT
#2812
Yes, don't ask the question to your scumbuddy. Funnies.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:39 GMT
#2813
Also, Kush doesn't want to lynch me. He wants to lynch Djo. As should you if you were town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:45 GMT
#2814
On December 24 2012 10:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Content doesn't matter, but I'll grant you that it's odd. Although most of this 141 page thread has been spamming pointless crap. Myself included.



Biggest non-answer ever.

28-page filter now. Longer than any scumgame in the history of TL by miles. So am I scum or not CC? Give me an answer.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:49 GMT
#2815
Also CC, propose to me your solution for what witchcraft actions should be tonight.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 01:55 GMT
#2818
On December 24 2012 10:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
How about nobody vote anybody. I'll vote you, Hapa. Then you'll realize I'm town?


I can do that. So you trust me now then?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 02:32 GMT
#2820
I might be able to agree to that. I'll see if I can come up with something more convincing.

Honestly I'm back to thinking you're town at this point. 20 pages of filter mayne. Plus you've been the most responsive out of anyone here.

I'd be down for checking kush's alignment with a vote of some sort.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 02:45 GMT
#2822
On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.


The basic idea, is that we can confirm a townie with witchcraft votes. For example, let's say we wanted to confirm you as town/scum/whatever. I'd order you to vote for Player A first. Then I'd order another player to vote for Player B second. If Player A wins witchcraft, you are town. If player B wins witchcraft, you are scum. If no player wins witchcraft, you're both scum.

And if I was red, I wouldn't call ghost anything. I'd just lead a mislynch on him.
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