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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 01:50 GMT
#1365
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#1367
Screaming that he's lying =/= good way to figure out if someone's scum. Be quiet while I try and get productive answers from people.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 01:58 GMT
#1374
On December 18 2012 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?


Was too busy yesterday focusing on Eywa bullshit, etc. I believe I mentioned somewhere that he posted his list of scumreads --- which didn't include me. I wondered at this, because he thought I was scum / voted for me D1.

If he hadn't died, I'd still have a scumread on his ass, and probably push him second to Eywa. Obviously that's not going to happen right now.


Well you didn't do much yesterday other than address "Eywa bullshit" and hard defend me. The lack of scumhunting outside your D1 case on thrawn is rather disturbing. And tunneling Eywa really doesn't satisfy the "scumhunting" quota.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:02 GMT
#1378
On December 18 2012 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 10:58 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:52 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?

thrawn was proven innocent, Cc just doesn't know the difference between left and right.


LOL this is a clarity-class scum post right here. The opportune moment post.

And you, Eywa, obviously don't know the difference between town and scum. Well, maybe you do, because you are scum.

That statement stands more for you because none of my guesses have been proven wrong, all of yours have... I think your problem is with the understanding of basic mathematics.


You're such an idiot, please stop talking scum.


Just ignore him. This conversation is between you and me right now, and I'm not interested in having Eywa shit up the thread again.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:12 GMT
#1383
CC, I'm not talking about D1. Even last night, you didn't do much in the way of scumhunting. I have family in CT; I'm really sympathetic towards what you've gone through, but I do have to hold you accountable for what you have in your filter.

So right now, I'm interested in hearing about your scumreads. In your newbie games, you're generally really good about providing analysis and pushing reads. That's what I want to see you doing today, and I really want to know who other than Eywa you think is scum.

As for Eywa, just ignore him for now. I want to see what else you've got. Eywa exists in his own little world right now. I made the mistake of acknowledging him - don't do the same.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:19 GMT
#1389
CC, you still around?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:27 GMT
#1393
Eywa,

I'm not sure if you're aware, but Cheesecake is from the area which the US elementary-school shootings took place. These aren't things that people lie about, and you are going to have to give him some space this game. Flaming someone hit with an RL is not conducive towards town goals at all, nor is it morally acceptable.

On December 18 2012 11:12 Eywa- wrote:
P.S. I'm too fucking busy for this game and your bullshit, stop asking me (The only question I've been asked all game) shit because I've had enough of this game! I'm going to shoot a Civilian and go back to helping out my School. Fuck you guys, I know how to count an 0/3 is definitely higher than 0%! FUCK


So when I see something like the above, not only is this an issue with the game, but it's an issue with your attitude and gameplay. You're more than welcome to find him scummy. That's fine. But don't cross the line into antagonistic behavior. That does no one any good here.

~Hapa
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:40 GMT
#1395
On December 18 2012 11:29 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 11:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa,

I'm not sure if you're aware, but Cheesecake is from the area which the US elementary-school shootings took place. These aren't things that people lie about, and you are going to have to give him some space this game. Flaming someone hit with an RL is not conducive towards town goals at all, nor is it morally acceptable.

On December 18 2012 11:12 Eywa- wrote:
P.S. I'm too fucking busy for this game and your bullshit, stop asking me (The only question I've been asked all game) shit because I've had enough of this game! I'm going to shoot a Civilian and go back to helping out my School. Fuck you guys, I know how to count an 0/3 is definitely higher than 0%! FUCK


So when I see something like the above, not only is this an issue with the game, but it's an issue with your attitude and gameplay. You're more than welcome to find him scummy. That's fine. But don't cross the line into antagonistic behavior. That does no one any good here.

~Hapa

I didn't realise... I generally don't read news, so I don't know what goes on where... I still think he's scum in the game though and nothing's going to change that.


Thanks for understanding.

I get that your play is focused around riling-up players, calling them scum, and testing reactions, and I definitely misunderstood your motives for most of the game so far. It's something straight out of IRL mafia games, and I'm sure you've had much success with it.

However, you have to back off with some players. The situation as I see it with you and Cheesecake is that he ragequit as a result of your pressure. This is pretty sub-optimal for both him personally as well as our efforts as a town. I don't know if he's scum or not, and we're going to have to be more patient with him to find out his alignment. Antagonizing him isn't the way to go here to get anything of value to the town.

Sorry if this sounds like a lecture, but I do care about this game, and I want to make sure we can finish it with our respective sanities intact.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:47 GMT
#1396
Kush, Drazak, Djodref, and DoYouHas, your presence would be much welcomed in here.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:49 GMT
#1398
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 02:55 GMT
#1400
On December 18 2012 11:50 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts?

Dr.Chessboard isn't going to be elected in the fall, I must push my vote to someone who might.


Please please stop with the name-ribbing. We're not playing the "let's yell at each other game" anymore. We're playing the "let's be calm and rational people trying to find scum" game. Just call him CC, Cheesecake, or whatever - name mixups just aren't necessary.

As for your vote, it seems like only two players (yourself and JieXian) would support such an idea right now. I wouldn't call it feasible. However, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about your other "Possible Scum" candidates. You have Draz, Kush, and Djo marked as possible scum, and I'd be interested to hear more on them.

Also, you have DYH marked as "not scum", which I find odd considering his lurkiness so far.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:07 GMT
#1401
As for Cheesecake, I really don't think he's mafia. I really doubt that mafia would play the "school shooting" card to excuse their behavior. In addition, a lot of his N1 play is very easily explainable by your vitriolic relationship with him so far.

As for his D1 play, I've seen many townies do exactly what he did in the past. I insist that voting for any lynch over a no-lynch is perfectly acceptable (and promoted) town play here.

I'm feeling town from CC. I'll re-evaluate that read as I see him post more, everything so far points to a frustrated townie who has some holes in his activity/commitment due to RL troubles.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:12 GMT
#1403
As for DoYouHas, he seems to fit the profile of a non-involved lurker. His contributions so far are rather paltry considering how much of a shit-storm this game has been. He made a case against JieXian after 4-5 people voted him (overkill). He's currently tunneling two people that I have strong town reads on, yourself (Eywa) and MrZentor. The MrZentor one is rather alarming, because he's focusing on irrelevant tells:

On December 18 2012 07:39 DoYouHas wrote:
If MrZ was town he would have to at least acknowledge that his assumptions might be wrong. And if that possibility exists, then his actions only have a scum mindset. Any town making his assumptions could just as easily test them when hapa was out of danger. They would be no less convincing, even if we will be missing 2 more votes now.

MrZ was rolefishing, plain and simple.


"Rolefishing" in not a tell. Mafia are often way too scared to rolefish out in the open, and MrZentor is doing it rather blatantly. I've never seen a mafia "rolefishing" in all the games I've played. And even if he is "rolefishing," DYH's case against MrZentor doesn't adequately address why MrZ's idea scummy rather than stupid.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:20 GMT
#1406
On December 18 2012 12:11 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts?

Dr.Chessboard isn't going to be elected in the fall, I must push my vote to someone who might.


Please please stop with the name-ribbing. We're not playing the "let's yell at each other game" anymore. We're playing the "let's be calm and rational people trying to find scum" game. Just call him CC, Cheesecake, or whatever - name mixups just aren't necessary.

As for your vote, it seems like only two players (yourself and JieXian) would support such an idea right now. I wouldn't call it feasible. However, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about your other "Possible Scum" candidates. You have Draz, Kush, and Djo marked as possible scum, and I'd be interested to hear more on them.

Also, you have DYH marked as "not scum", which I find odd considering his lurkiness so far.


I think DoYouHas has taken a far too impersonal approach to the game so far... He hasn't really seemed to care what has gone on and generally has just sponged off other people, really doesn't make sense to call him mafia. Also, when attacked he hasn't fled

Jie Xian is all over the place without having changed personalities, normally when a mafia member realizes that what he is doing is suspicious, he slowly adapts. The mistakes which you may think Jie Xian makes, he's been making all game, it's not from pressure or anything because while under pressure and not, he's the same.

Kush's lurking is suspect because of how he approaches it, he'll take on scenarios up till he's the topic of conversation at which point he's gone till the conversation turns again. He's just awkward and doesn't feel quite right. Also, his first vote antics were odd to say the least

If MrV is scum, he's ridiculously good, because I see no traces of scum whatsoever. He's been over the fire while still not changing at all similarly to Jie Xian, which in itself isn't definitive, however, when others have, it's hard to count these guys as real threats.

CharlieChaplain is just scummy, he doesn't answer questions about himself and has only ever targeted civilians. Sure, he's under a lot of stress, but stress doesn't translate into not being able to answer one simple question. His slip ups are numerous.

Draskal is that lurker which literally never posts anything insightful... There's no way to tell either way what he is, so it's best to leave him since if we get one wrong, we're in hot water.

Djoref is just... Well let's just say he's given just about everyone a criminal case which proves their guilt... This does not add to his credibility... This does not make him look good, makes him look scum. He's been head hunting for a while.

You've been my target from the start, ever since I read your first day posts, your slip ups have been many, I don't believe you to be innocent.



Thanks for the reads. I think we're sharing much more common ground than we both realized.

You're spot on with DYH. His play is indeed really impersonal, and this "emotional detatchment" from the game I find rather scummy. Townies are often really emotional, wild, and crazy. There are certainly exceptions (i.e., scum can be emotional), but complete emotional detachment in the manner exhibited by DYH is strongly suggestive of scum. Do you agree?

Drazak is a rather interesting case, because he's normally very lurky as town and scum. I'm getting town vibes from him based his passivity, which strangely enough is indicative of his town play.

MrZ is far too attention-seeking this game to be scum. I think we both agree about that.

JieXian, I'm a bit torn on. I don't like his play, however, he has some guts to OMGUS me given how violent I've been most of Day 1. I'm willing to see that as townie for now, and hopefully we both can talk a bit more calmly tomorrow.
##Unvote

Kush and Djodref are two players I have to look at in a lot of detail. With how this game is working out, I'm pretty sure they're scum. They're very uninvolved in the game, and for the most part have been sitting back and watching us fight.

So here's my theory; everyone in the game that's been screaming at each other is town. The scum, DYH, Kush, and Djodref have been sitting in the shadows eating popcorn and watching ourselves tear each other apart.

Whaddya think?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:27 GMT
#1407
I think you might be able to put Mr.CC somewhere in for either Kush or Djo. I'm not convinced of it though, and I'll need to see more out of him. Again, "school shooting" card = not scum methinks.

I want to see DYH hang. He's been detached, useless, and I think we both can agree that he has a good chance of flipping red.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:32 GMT
#1409
Do you have any preference? I personally would rather go for DYH because he's the most detached and lurky out of the bunch.

I honestly haven't read enough into Kush or Djo to make an informed decision on which to lynch. I think they're scum, but I want to be sure. So I propose we park our votes on DYH while we each take some time to decide. If we can't find a satisfying candidate, we lynch DYH. At the very least, we'll give DYH a little kick in the ass to get in here and post more.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:36 GMT
#1412
##Vote DoYouHas

Also Eywa, you need to bold your votes (standard format)
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:37 GMT
#1413
Care to join us MrZ? It's all nice and friendly in here all of a sudden!

<3
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:38 GMT
#1415
Also Eywa, I really owe you an apology for my Day 1 play. I don't respond to pressure well, it clouded my judgement, and I got really carried away with things. Thanks for working things out with me just now =)
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 18 2012 03:38 GMT
#1416
On December 18 2012 12:38 MrZentor wrote:
When we kill DYH and he flips red, can I get the credit for his lynch?

I mean, I was the first to vote for him.


Oh you were totes voting him. Right.
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