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On December 20 2012 03:23 Djodref wrote:
Bleh, you guys are the most stubborn idiots I have ever played with.
It's time to consolidate, because town is going pants on head once again.
I'm voting DYH for the reasons given in my list above...
##Unvote
##Vote DYH
List of Scum confirmed.
Thanks.
Any town remaining, vote Mr.Cheesecake now.
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On December 20 2012 03:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa
They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples. As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read. This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY.
I didn't realise there was anything more to your play... Aside from raging at people.
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On December 20 2012 03:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:25 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa
They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples. As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read. This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY. I didn't realise there was anything more to your play... Aside from raging at people. And I didn't realise you were doing anything useful this entire game. The only thing you've done is push my mislynch, rage, and use terrible logic. I really don't want to flip out again. Djo is right about the stubborn idiots part. I'm done talking for now.
Djo also would have been right about people aside from myself consolidating on town members if he said it... He didn't... Hmmm, from my angle it's easy to observe townies killing townies... I wonder what's got your vision clouded.
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My witchcraft vote today went out on MrZentor and nobody.
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On December 20 2012 03:32 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:24 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:23 Djodref wrote:
Bleh, you guys are the most stubborn idiots I have ever played with.
It's time to consolidate, because town is going pants on head once again.
I'm voting DYH for the reasons given in my list above...
##Unvote
##Vote DYH List of Scum confirmed. Thanks. Any town remaining, vote Mr.Cheesecake now. Stop it. Seriously, stop it. Take a break. Realize it's possible that you're wrong. The majority of people want to lynch DYH. If you keep your vote on CC, you're just allowing scum to manipulate the lynch, instead of forcing them to lynch DYH.
Do you realise that if anyone consolidates votes on someone from this town, it'll be the scum team? If they don't consolidate votes they lose the vote for sure.
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Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli
Who's assisting these guys?
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On December 20 2012 03:35 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli
Who's assisting these guys? I'm done talking to you...
Why do I need to talk to scum anyway? Is that meant to be a threat? Because if so I'd gladly have taken the offer earlier  .
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On December 20 2012 03:36 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:33 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:32 MrZentor wrote:On December 20 2012 03:24 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:23 Djodref wrote:
Bleh, you guys are the most stubborn idiots I have ever played with.
It's time to consolidate, because town is going pants on head once again.
I'm voting DYH for the reasons given in my list above...
##Unvote
##Vote DYH List of Scum confirmed. Thanks. Any town remaining, vote Mr.Cheesecake now. Stop it. Seriously, stop it. Take a break. Realize it's possible that you're wrong. The majority of people want to lynch DYH. If you keep your vote on CC, you're just allowing scum to manipulate the lynch, instead of forcing them to lynch DYH. Do you realise that if anyone consolidates votes on someone from this town, it'll be the scum team? If they don't consolidate votes they lose the vote for sure. Do you reali Ze that DYH is most likely scum and consolidating votes gives scum a lot less power over who is lynched?
So you're saying that the scum team (of 3) is going to sit there and let DYH die when they have 3 votes to consolidate on someone + myself as a townie that is not voting for DYH + Jie Xian? Or are we both scum? If so... What are the odds of DYH being scum?
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On December 20 2012 03:38 MrZentor wrote:
Eywa, CC isn't going to get lynched today.
Consolidating our votes gives us more power as town over who is lynched.
We need 5/6 of town to vote for scum to kill one of them.
Please vote for DYH.
If he doesn't get lynched, you're at fault.
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Let's put it this way, if DYH is scum, they have an automatic lynch on cheesecake... Do you think even for a second that they wouldn't take it? It would be game over.
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On December 20 2012 03:42 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:39 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:38 MrZentor wrote:
Eywa, CC isn't going to get lynched today.
Consolidating our votes gives us more power as town over who is lynched.
We need 5/6 of town to vote for scum to kill one of them.
Please vote for DYH. If he doesn't get lynched, you're at fault. There are several scum. We don't have to lynch them in a particular order. I know DYH is scum. CC may or may not be scum. We have to focus on one of them at a time, and there are already a decent number of votes for DYH. Why won't you kill him before CC?
Because the scum are voting for DYH... In what universe is this good for them if DYH is scum? They need 2 more lynches and that's all... If they get a civilian, they need 1 more lynch and we need 3 more... So explain to me, how does the math work out to have the 3 scum among the people not voting?
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On December 20 2012 03:48 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:45 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:42 MrZentor wrote:On December 20 2012 03:39 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:38 MrZentor wrote:
Eywa, CC isn't going to get lynched today.
Consolidating our votes gives us more power as town over who is lynched.
We need 5/6 of town to vote for scum to kill one of them.
Please vote for DYH. If he doesn't get lynched, you're at fault. There are several scum. We don't have to lynch them in a particular order. I know DYH is scum. CC may or may not be scum. We have to focus on one of them at a time, and there are already a decent number of votes for DYH. Why won't you kill him before CC? Because the scum are voting for DYH... In what universe is this good for them if DYH is scum? They need 2 more lynches and that's all... If they get a civilian, they need 1 more lynch and we need 3 more... So explain to me, how does the math work out to have the 3 scum among the people not voting? Well, it would be pretty obvious who was scum if none of them voted for their scum buddies.....
Eywa-
Jie Xian
Kushm4ster
Drakaz
Which 2 of us are scum? Please enlighten me.
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On December 20 2012 03:49 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli
Who's assisting these guys? Let's play a game Kush, DYH, DrazakI reserve the right to call you a total moron at the end of this game if I have more scum than you in my list
Assume you're right, wouldn't they vote for Mr.Cheesecake? That'd make 5.
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On December 20 2012 03:57 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 03:50 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 03:49 Djodref wrote:On December 20 2012 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli
Who's assisting these guys? Let's play a game Kush, DYH, DrazakI reserve the right to call you a total moron at the end of this game if I have more scum than you in my list Assume you're right, wouldn't they vote for Mr.Cheesecake? That'd make 5. And then we just lynch them one by one in the following days ? All of them have no fucking reason to lynch CC.
If they have no reason to lynch cc then you're calling me and Jie Xian mafia when your prediction states Drazak and Kush.
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I wish to run an experiment... So this day ends in 3 hours right?
##unvote
##vote DYH
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On December 20 2012 04:07 MrZentor wrote:
I forgot the lynch was pushed back an hour.
And you better keep your vote there. -.-
I will, I believe I'm voting for a townie though.
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On December 20 2012 04:10 MrZentor wrote:
We shall see.
It's not a problem, I like voting for town.
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On December 20 2012 04:11 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 04:02 kushm4sta wrote:On December 20 2012 03:56 Djodref wrote:
But seriously, just watch Kush behavior right now, popping in in the thread, make irrelevant comments, popping out.
He clearly doesn't give a fuck of this game, just read his latest comments and tell me that he is not mafia. Just go read the last page of his filter.
I'm very worried right now because both Kush and drazak are not here, so maybe mafia doesn't need any interference for today. Maybe both CC and DYH are a mislynch.
Can we just lynch Kush ? DYH is the guy I'm the least sure to be mafia in my tentative scumteam... the fuck? im here and i'm playing, despite you guys making it as hard as possible with all your fucking spam. None of my post are irrelevant today. 1 defended cheesecake, 1 told you when you could expect more activity from me. TOWN, look at djo. Look how indecisive he's being with today's vote. shit like--Hmm ill vote for this guy but I really wanna lynch this guy. Djo pick who you want to vote and VOTE for them instead of wishy washing all over the place. I'm not indecisive at all. I want to lynch you, and almost everybody is fucking ignoring me here.. Your defense of CC was a very weird post to prove that someone is town. The arguments you are giving are bad and I have to admit that it was kind of relevant... And yeah, I'm getting behind a DYH lynch because we need consolidation. And, I've stated earlier, I believe that he could be mafia. I even gave my reasons to vote him, so cut the crap...
This is where you went wrong. I don't think you have a case.
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On December 20 2012 04:12 DoYouHas wrote:I'm now positive that MrZ is scum. First, let me address this defense that hapa apparently agrees with so wholeheartedly. Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 08:27 MrZentor wrote:His whole case is That he agrees with me on a bunch of stuff I can't really go after him for how he pushed mord. I agreed with his read on JX and his points on Mord were convincing. It is worth noting that he only stopped 1 lynch in order to push a different mislynch. A good way to gain cred as scum and something I think fits with how MrZ plays, but not really alignment indicative. But because I wanted to know if Hap was scum or not from witchcraft votes What really tips the scales for me, and I'm amazed doesn't do the same for the rest of you is his n1 call to reveal voting on hapa And because I didn't want to wait more than 48 hours to get the results It is the timing of this that makes it so scummy. If MrZ was town he would have waited until N2 to bring this out. I am scum. One thing DYH doesn't realize, which is extremely important, is that my plan wouldn't work if I waited for N2, because there would be at least 2 more dead people, and I would have no way to know those people's witchcraft votes. He says I am scum because I didn't wait for N2 to ask for everybody's votes, but he doesn't understand that my plan wouldn't work if I waited for N2. MrZ has now given 2 bad responses to my point about the timing of his action. The first was him being impatient. Now this. The fact of the matter is, his plan WOULD work N2 compared to when he actually proposed it. He would have had 10 votes to work with before thrawn died. I did not vote for hapa. Now, even if I die, MrZ has 9/10 of the original votes he was so sure would confirm hapa as scum or trap the scum team. He honestly wants you to believe that his plan CANNOT work with 90% of the information he would have gained anyways. I call bs. Here is where things should get convincing for those of you who still won't listen to me on the previous point. Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 05:58 MrZentor wrote:
I had just ignored him most of the time, because in the last game I played with him, we mislynched him and he was some important role. I was afraid of misreading him again, but after he was brought up yesterday, I looked into him and he looked really scummy.
Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 02:44 MrZentor wrote:
As scum the easiest thing to do is to pick a target (me) and push that target the whole game, ignoring everything else.
And DYH isn't strong or confident. He's just mindlessly pushing for my lynch. It's an extremely easy to execute and effective scum strategy.
Also, I am SUCH an easy target. Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 02:50 MrZentor wrote:On December 20 2012 02:47 JieXian wrote:On December 20 2012 02:44 MrZentor wrote:
As scum the easiest thing to do is to pick a target (me) and push that target the whole game, ignoring everything else.
And DYH isn't strong or confident. He's just mindlessly pushing for my lynch. It's an extremely easy to execute and effective scum strategy.
Also, I am SUCH an easy target. I was an easy target D1 was everyone who were pushing for me scum? The reason DYH is scum isn't that he is pushing an easy target. You're missing the point. He's tunneling me, all game, ignoring everything else. That's scum play. Who else has done that? First, MrZ states that he pushed a mislynch on me in paranoia mafia and he is afraid of misreading me. Now, when he is trying to strongarm eywa into voting me his true colors come out. Pushing a target I'm confident in to the exlusion of other discussions is EXACTLY what almost got me mislynched in paranoia. Other people have pointed out how I haven't been tunneling MrZ 'all game'. However, JX, your wrong about my Eywa read, I think he is town. What was confusing me was I thought he connected with MrZ, but as I've delved into MrZ I've found that isn't true. MrZ's approach towards me doesn't hold up. Hapa was one of the first to show this, but now with these more recent posts, it should be clear to everyone.
However, all this being said, we still need to consolidate on either myself or MrCc. Eywa is town and isn't going to move his vote. I still think hapa is town, and he isn't going to move his vote. That means for an all town majority all the townies have to pile on either me or MrCc. We can't risk an no-lynch, that would likely put us in mylo or lylo depending on the nightkill and the silver bullet situation. I can't honestly say I have looked into MrCc that much recently. What I know is that he has a better chance of flipping scum than me, and given the current situation, that makes my choice clear. ##Unvote
##Vote Mr. CheeseCake
If we can get 4 votes behind either ChocolateCake or MrZentor, I'll flip back to make it 5.
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On December 20 2012 04:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 04:13 Djodref wrote:On December 20 2012 04:12 Eywa- wrote:On December 20 2012 04:11 Djodref wrote:On December 20 2012 04:02 kushm4sta wrote:On December 20 2012 03:56 Djodref wrote:
But seriously, just watch Kush behavior right now, popping in in the thread, make irrelevant comments, popping out.
He clearly doesn't give a fuck of this game, just read his latest comments and tell me that he is not mafia. Just go read the last page of his filter.
I'm very worried right now because both Kush and drazak are not here, so maybe mafia doesn't need any interference for today. Maybe both CC and DYH are a mislynch.
Can we just lynch Kush ? DYH is the guy I'm the least sure to be mafia in my tentative scumteam... the fuck? im here and i'm playing, despite you guys making it as hard as possible with all your fucking spam. None of my post are irrelevant today. 1 defended cheesecake, 1 told you when you could expect more activity from me. TOWN, look at djo. Look how indecisive he's being with today's vote. shit like--Hmm ill vote for this guy but I really wanna lynch this guy. Djo pick who you want to vote and VOTE for them instead of wishy washing all over the place. I'm not indecisive at all. I want to lynch you, and almost everybody is fucking ignoring me here.. Your defense of CC was a very weird post to prove that someone is town. The arguments you are giving are bad and I have to admit that it was kind of relevant... And yeah, I'm getting behind a DYH lynch because we need consolidation. And, I've stated earlier, I believe that he could be mafia. I even gave my reasons to vote him, so cut the crap... This is where you went wrong. I don't think you have a case. Va te faire foutre ! Tu es la pire merde avec laquelle j'ai jamais jouee... <3 French
Translation:
Go fuck yourself
You're the worse shit which I've never played with.
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