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Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:08 GMT

#748

I'm inclined to think that the other scum was voting with or supporting Oats when voicing his opinion so I am immediately even more suspicious of Rad and Yamato (those who I was most suspicious of before), I recall earlier that when people were jumping on me for FoSing Yamato that Yamato himself said that this makes him think I am town, so that for me lends him some town cred. I guess right now I am thinking Rad is last scum.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:13 GMT

#753

Yeah, I am going to have to re read through both of their filters but my immediate feeling is that the most likely scum is Rad. While I think Yamato was a bit scummy, I feel that a scum team would have interacted differently than how he initially interacted with me (compared to how Oats just jumped right the fuck at me for FoSing, Yamato was just like "I dont think the FoS is justified but I think this is town Kick" <-- basically, he didnt rly say that ;o).

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:15 GMT

#755

ebwop

And compare how Rad reacted to me (he was with oats 100% the entire time and jumped on my wagon as soon as he could etc,all stuff I posted about earlier) and Rad comes out much scummier.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:17 GMT

#756

Well Rad to be blunt Oats flipping scum is really, really bad for you. The way he pushed me and then you came in supporting him guns blazing and hoped right on me is bad for you, town or scum. And before all of that even happened I had a scum read on you ;/.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:27 GMT

#762

Yeah I am wondering that too (@Syl) because in my last game where I was scum, me and my buddy basically completely ignored each other day1. But, again, I will have to re-look at it because they may have been under the impression that they weren't in much danger (when they originally pushed me, I know that later on Oats got a bit of votes on him). I am trying not to tunnel the shit out of Rad but he looks soooooooooooo scummy right now.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:31 GMT

#767

I can see that, because I pissed both you and Yamato off and I think that both of you were kind of onto me for pissing you off LOL. However I had not provoked Oats at all and for whatever reason he seemed to think I was an easy target (maybe because I piss off too many people :[). That makes sense Rad. To be completely honest with you I will do the majority of my judging on how people play now (n1 and d2 cycles), I want to see some real scum hunting and good cases because I feel aside from all the lurking day 1, we have had an amazing start.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:33 GMT

#768

Yeah I will couch for Sylencia on that point, he did look at my defense of myself and at how Oats and Rad were tunneling me and he sided with me on it - so town points for him. With that Sylencia get more active because as I said before your posting is very well thought out and I think you would be a huge asset if you were just more active!

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 01:37 GMT

#769

LOL just read the flavor text.

Oats: "I am a fireman"
Prom: "then why is there no fireman hat"

On December 06 2012 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am Tommy the Fireman
Dont mislynch me off nothing.

roflrofl

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 05:18 GMT

#785

Guess everyone is content to just lurk. Sad :[
Now with Oats gone I have no one to yell at for pages on end.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 06:12 GMT

#794

This guy has no clue what he is doing. Voting no lynch and now saying he will vote himself to prove his town-ness. Go talk to a coach Axle this is ridiculous.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 06:16 GMT

#797

I think we have some pretty good scum leads I would like to pursue first.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 06:18 GMT

#799

We just lynched a scum d1 and you are upset we didn't listen to you and vote Axle. The hell yamato -_-

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 06:31 GMT

#801

Nah I'm with you on the Axle point (I threw down a vote on him d1 too!) But yeah, just scumhunt Axle, stop doing whatever else it is you are doing.

With that it is bed time, see you all later!

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 12:18 GMT

#818

No voting yet Axle, it is night phase so only scum and blue roles (if we have any in this setup) will do actions, but they the actions are sent to the host and then the host will tell us what has happened when night period ends. The best thing to do for night period is to get everything you are thinking out there in case you are night killed, because at that point you are out of the game.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 20:33 GMT

#823

I am a bit worried that I may not make it through the night because I think the lynch on Oats has pretty much solidified my position as town. Thus, I want to reiterate who I am suspicious of so that if I do go at least my thoughts are recorded. This isn't a case on either of them because I am just reposting what I have already said.

I think that given the events thus far the most likely people to people to be scum are Rad or Yamto.

Rad

A strong association between him and Oats. He defended Oats against CC's case, and he was with Oats on the wagon on me.
Slightly scummy when you take away the Oats association, it is hard to separate his actions from those of Oats because they had the same opinions most of the time, but it is possible that he reached his conclusions without talking with Oats (being the scum team), but independent of that it does seem that he just jumped on a wagon and was aiming to do so from the beginning (his jumping on my joke and him later voting my immediately after I had put a vote on Axle).

Yamato

Yamato, unlike Rad, is more scummy on his own, there is no real association case to be made between him and Oats. Early on Oats listed Yamato as a scum read (though he did do a 180 on his read, the cause of much suspicion), and Yamato never bought into the wagon on me.
Yamato has not done much in the way of scum hunting this game. His posts thus far can be summed up like this:
1. Debating policy lynches
2. Focusing on Axle
3. Arguing with me about whether my suspicion on him is justified
4. Lurking for a bit
5. Back onto Axle again

I already made posts/cases about these points and there is not much new to add, so I am throwing it out that so that they can be watched more closely in upcoming cycles (in case I am night killed). I think going forward people need to be forced to lurk less because at this point it is ridiculous. A majority of the players are getting away without posting anything in the way of reads and this is unacceptable as it hinders any attempt at having a town favored environment. That being said, right now my strongest scum read is on Rad because I find the association between him and Oats to be far too strong to just overlook it. Yamato is my second scum read, because while his play thus far is suspect, it can be written off as lazy town play (and in that case he is not as bad as all the lurkers in this game). I think it will be important to watch both of throughout the upcoming day cycle and see if they do anything that adds to their scummyness, in which case they are likely to be the last scum.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 21:09 GMT

#825

Yeah, I pissed both of them off early on (Rad and Yamato) so both of them ended up agreeing with Oats in his crusade against me (even though it was bullshit, they were mad at me :D), so it is a bit difficult to tell if they were just pissed with me or working with Oats.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 21:18 GMT

#831

Yamato also implied that he thought I was town though , or at least wasn't so sure that I was scummy -Not sure how far you can unravel that line of thought (that he said Oats was playing town). He did use the same "it is just a pressure play" argument when I FoSed him for voting Axle ;o, dunno if that tells us anything -_-

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 06 2012 21:39 GMT

#834

I wish I could ban all the lurkers. Sign up to play mafia then have 3 posts to your name. The eff.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 07 2012 00:17 GMT

#859

I don't think scum bussed Oats in that lynch. For this early in the game I think scum most likely did any number of 3 things:
1. Defend Oats to some extent
2. Vote with Oats.
3. Push another lynch

Since no other lynches were getting pushed other than me and Oats, that leaves 1 and 2 being the most likely. Leaves rad being the most suspicious. Yamato slightly less so because his vote was pointlessly on Axle whereas if he was scum it could have been moved, or he could have pushed someone else harder (like maybe a lurker lynch or something).

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

December 07 2012 00:29 GMT

#862

If you don't take into account Oats associations then yes yamato you are more suspicious, but with them Rad becomes 100x more suspicious ;/. If he is town it is unfortunate he sided with such a scummer.

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