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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 02:35 GMT
#472
On December 05 2012 11:31 AxleGreaser wrote:
An so the case begins.

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 21:43 AxleGreaser wrote:
This post contains content on its own so that does not get lost in the last one.

The last post drew a conclusion from a ridiculous small amount of data.
That is not all the data it is based on just all that was quoted.
A lesson I learned along time ago when dealing with potential liars is never show all your cards to them.

The majority of people here are town. I, state that, I think my optimal play is to show a large fraction of what I know.

[........]

Finally, hence Importantly

I do not reach final conclusions no matter what the English implies.




Sooo we're going with homeless then?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 02:37 GMT
#475
On December 05 2012 11:35 Kickstart wrote:
Yep, I officially don't give a shit about this game at this point unless I see something that really changes my mind. Most everyone has gone full retard mode.


I'm only partially retarded atm. I defended you, brah!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 02:38 GMT
#476
I'm not going to lie I'm laughing my ass off at this game right now, mainly due to Axle.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 02:46 GMT
#486
Pretty suspect of Arn right now because he sheeped that Kick wagon so hard with a bunch of WIFOM and wall of text.

On December 05 2012 11:43 Kickstart wrote:
And I am just going to ignore arnarion all together because he is being a dickhead and because his case is stupid. I doubt anyone who reads his case then looks over my actual post will agree with a word he said.


I lol'd so hard. <3 Kickstart. Hey Rad, waddaya make of all this?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 02:59 GMT
#494
On December 05 2012 11:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
CC, context for the Lol Im town,

Axle asked me what I would do pretending that I am town, after he asked me what I would do if I was scum.

the LOL I'm town wasn't necessary, could have just rolled with it. Seemed weird to me.


And about my way of playing? If that is scummy to you then ok, each to his own.

CC, how many times have you been like,
Ok he is not that suspicious, then when you read his filter, it has some scummy stuff and not much town stuff.
I did this for Clarity in XXX actually, I had a town read, I thought Djo was scum but when I read his filter, I was astounded at the slight scumtells.

Sometimes. But certainly not this early and when I was there for it.


If it is your opinion on why the kickstart case is bad then so be it, I cant change that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 03:01 GMT
#497
I vote for a modkill on Axle for not adhering to The Standard English Syntax and Grammar Rules as imposed by my brain.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 03:03 GMT
#501
On December 05 2012 11:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 11:57 Kickstart wrote:
Since you asked kindly I will entertain you.

a) no one was really suspicious of before (or at least no one had posted about)
and
b) are not one of the "easy targets" (there are several first timers here, some of whom are lurking, and I did not go after any of them)
So how you can say I am stalling when I am bringing up new points against players who had no pressure at all on them is strange to me.


You then call me wishy washy about my suspicion of Yamato. Maybe you should look up what wishy washy, because I have been nothing but firm with my stance that I found his interactions with Axl and his general posting up until that point to be suspicious. You then accuse me of trying to start a case on someone without providing anything to back it up (which is strange since right after you post my large post). I have given a more comprehensive post on why I have my suspicions than anyone thus far - so your accusation is just false.


Its early game, who would be suspicous of anyone?
You didnt go after the first timers because there is too little to go off of....

This looks so weird kickstart.

Also, so now what do you think yamato is? Scum or Town?


LOLWUT?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 03:06 GMT
#506
On December 05 2012 12:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
So CC, you start the game by thinking everyone is scum?


No, I start by being suspicious of everyone. Because that's common sense. Trust no one. They're all lying scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 03:12 GMT
#512
Problem is, you were suspicious of everyone last game, like a townie should be.

This game it's suddenly different?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 03:58 GMT
#520
Just to put it out there.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

I can't wait to see who these semi-lurkers vote for.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 04:28 GMT
#524
You're my best scumread right now. We've got around 22 1/2 hours left, and I'll definitely be looking into other people. I'll probably convince myself to vote someone else in the end like always.

We've got so many lurky individuals that I want to hear from so I can case the crap out of them.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 04:37 GMT
#528
Was using the timeframe for the last game, nice catch there Mr. Blue text xD
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 04:39 GMT
#529
"I had read the internet recently."

I'm sorry that was so funny. Am I drunk?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 04:51 GMT
#542
You can, Axle. Go for it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 05:13 GMT
#554
That scumtrap?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 05:21 GMT
#561
On December 05 2012 14:20 jidolboy wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster


Explain.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 05:35 GMT
#573
What I find, is that Rad defends Oats, but never once talked to him in the thread. Oats also defends Rad. I'll round up something.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 05:40 GMT
#580
On December 04 2012 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Did you read XXX?
If you didnt go read it, Djo kinda acts like Rad where he jumps on a joke but Djo is town
i think that its a null read.
Also I thought you were serious until you posted jk jk.
Scumbag.


Defends Rad.

On December 05 2012 12:06 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 11:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pretty suspect of Arn right now because he sheeped that Kick wagon so hard with a bunch of WIFOM and wall of text.

On December 05 2012 11:43 Kickstart wrote:
And I am just going to ignore arnarion all together because he is being a dickhead and because his case is stupid. I doubt anyone who reads his case then looks over my actual post will agree with a word he said.


I lol'd so hard. <3 Kickstart. Hey Rad, waddaya make of all this?


@CC

I thought your case was half good. I'm kinda curious about the flip on yamato (not sure if I believe his explanation or not), and the idea of thinking of everyone as town and searching for scum is sooo... I dunno, "dreamy"? Like, really? He does that? I agree with you in that I'm paranoid as fuck as town and everyone is scum to me (though I feel I'm getting a bit better at my reads TBH).

Claiming he's town - eh, everyone does that. Null.

On his Kickstart case - ehh, I took it as a pressure move, and I wanted to see more out of kickstart anyway so I thought it was a good move. I've seen debears throw out terrible cases (for example, against me in my first newbie) that got me to talk a lot.

I'll be honest, oats feels unreadable from a meta standpoint. I watched him last game, thought he was scum until people told me otherwise. Feels very similar this game. I have to decide what I think about that "slip" you caught cause it's the major non-meta point that just doesn't make sense to me.

Regarding everything else that's going on, need to read through arn's case, and can't wait for axle to make sense because I honestly believe he's newbie town that will probably have some mind blowing read if he can tell us in english.


It's half good. Has a reason to bus Oats if necessary. Basically defends him though.

The only time Oats ever talked to Rad was when he quoted a post and asked a question - never answered by him.

If you're going to go hardcore for rad-oats scumteam this early, there's something?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 05:45 GMT
#583
I put my thoughts on your vote post.

Yamato was bickering at me for it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 05 2012 05:50 GMT
#586
"On lurker lynch policy I am of the opinion you lynch top scum reads"

His first post.

You quoted a post where he said that "If I have no good scum read, I'll lynch a lurker"

How you twisted that into "I want to lynch a lurker" and it being scummy is beyond me, Oats.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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