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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 05:51 GMT
#483
wbg, when marv first voted for tunkeg I liked his case. I agree with yours too and I could lynch tunkeg tomorrow. What are your thoughts on marv voting tunkeg and recently changing to voting adam?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 05:56 GMT
#485
tomorrow as in after i go to sleep, wake up, and vote

and atm i'd be opposed to an adam lynch if it was in opposition to say, a tunkeg lynch. i think a lot of the stuff about adam has been blown out of proportion
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 07:22 GMT
#488
On December 11 2012 16:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Lol WBG. In these games you are linking to, and others games like it, haven't you been the one complaining about me posting readposts like that? And also me posting "useless" questions?
And now you say the same play you labeled as bad and useless actually was scumhunting?

If you want me lynched for meta fine. But don't try to convince the thread you were a fan of my previos play.


Is that "lol" as in "Lol are you scum?" or lol as in "lol wtf what are you saying?"

"don't try to convince the thread" means that you are accusing him of doing bad sneaky things... what's your full read on wbg?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 08:01 GMT
#492
On December 11 2012 04:23 Tunkeg wrote:
So I have skimmed through the thread. And these are my thoughts:

Thrawn's "claim" is a joke claim. He did it in the very beginning, and quickly and without concern went back on it. I didn't like his response when called out on it. But when he in the end explained why he did as he did, it was an ok (no more, no less) explanation. I truly think people read to much into stuff like this, and overfocuses on it. I have many times made posts early that people have labeled stupid, with them voting for me and almost misslynching me (mainly because they didn't get my logic behind doing them, even after I explained it). I don't think the millar "claim" is anything worth spending much time analysing, but I would say that I find it more likely that a townie would do this.

I like Clarity's post on jaybrundage. I think jaybrundage's posts are very non-commiting, and very fluffy. I have played games with jaybrundage before, and I may be wrong, but I think his style resembles what he did in Student, where he was scum. A very wishy-washy style, where he eventually did some major slips.

I am also abit concerned about Djodref, I think he is posting alot, but his posts are very fluffy. I haven't played with him before, is this his style or?



This is tunkeg's first post with content. There are a few things in it that remind me of my own scum mindset from mario.

First, he says he skimmed through the thread. As town I would never skim through the thread before making my first real post with reads and stuff. The only time I have done that was as scum in mario. I made a similar opening post to the one T made. In that game a lot of the early game focus was on snb acting weird. I came in with a reasonable and well thought out post where I defended snb fairly hard but I didn't commit too hard on any of the specifics of the game's story. T has done the same thing... his opening paragraph from my perspective (knowing my alignment) looks to me like someone using their scum knowledge that thrawn is town in order to take what should appear to be a reasonable stance.

He doesn't comment much on other stuff from the thread, except to agree with clarity concerning jay. The "I may be wrong" line is the obvious thing to point out here. Why even say it, blah blah etc.

T mentions djo last and asks for meta information. I can understand asking people for general meta information about other players (btw I still have not received an answer to my question about grush's alleged intellect) but asking if djodref is usually fluffy? That is something that he can figure out without the help of people who have experience with djodref.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 08:08 GMT
#493
On December 11 2012 16:49 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 16:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 11 2012 16:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Lol WBG. In these games you are linking to, and others games like it, haven't you been the one complaining about me posting readposts like that? And also me posting "useless" questions?
And now you say the same play you labeled as bad and useless actually was scumhunting?

If you want me lynched for meta fine. But don't try to convince the thread you were a fan of my previos play.


Is that "lol" as in "Lol are you scum?" or lol as in "lol wtf what are you saying?"

"don't try to convince the thread" means that you are accusing him of doing bad sneaky things... what's your full read on wbg?


It is a: lol, don't come at me with this BS, which contradict what you have said about my play earlier.


That is an interesting response. Emotionally it looks like you are upset with what wbg decided to attack you with and you feel like there is some sort of injustice going on. That's what scum would feel. Once again going back to my mario game, if someone accused me of being scum for a reason I knew was true I just felt kinda sad and demotivated. When they accused me of being scum for a reason I thought was BS I had a similar response to your "lol, dont come at me with that bs." When I'm town and I get accused of being scum for reasons I feel are dumb I'm usually immediately suspicious of my accuser.

This reminds of the stuff from earlier with debears/adam but I think this example is more likely to have come from a scum mindset.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 08:21 GMT
#495
got similar feelings from this post ^^
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 08:28 GMT
#499
On December 11 2012 17:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I love how Tunkeg treats me like town when he responds to me, as if he already knows my alignment.

hehehehehehehehe


that's what I was getting at here, it just took a lot more words. I think it's more likely to be a scumslip than what happened between adam and debears
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 08:31 GMT
#501
On December 11 2012 17:26 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 17:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 11 2012 16:49 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 11 2012 16:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 11 2012 16:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Lol WBG. In these games you are linking to, and others games like it, haven't you been the one complaining about me posting readposts like that? And also me posting "useless" questions?
And now you say the same play you labeled as bad and useless actually was scumhunting?

If you want me lynched for meta fine. But don't try to convince the thread you were a fan of my previos play.


Is that "lol" as in "Lol are you scum?" or lol as in "lol wtf what are you saying?"

"don't try to convince the thread" means that you are accusing him of doing bad sneaky things... what's your full read on wbg?


It is a: lol, don't come at me with this BS, which contradict what you have said about my play earlier.


That is an interesting response. Emotionally it looks like you are upset with what wbg decided to attack you with and you feel like there is some sort of injustice going on. That's what scum would feel. Once again going back to my mario game, if someone accused me of being scum for a reason I knew was true I just felt kinda sad and demotivated. When they accused me of being scum for a reason I thought was BS I had a similar response to your "lol, dont come at me with that bs." When I'm town and I get accused of being scum for reasons I feel are dumb I'm usually immediately suspicious of my accuser.

This reminds of the stuff from earlier with debears/adam but I think this example is more likely to have come from a scum mindset.


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

You should probably vote then. It looks like you are trying to convince yourself I am scum. You are looking at what I am saying with the notion: "He is scum", and you make everything I say fit into that notion.

Also, if you think this is me being upset, you might get surprised when I do



well i did vote, just not in this thread

holy-deja vu batman I am getting the same feeling from this post as the one I got from T's most recent interactions with wbg. can you give your reads on me + wbg?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 08:42 GMT
#503
i want your read on wbg without stuff like "either way you are wrong here." that gives no indication of what you're actual read is
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 09:46 GMT
#507
palmer you should have waited longer to read your role pm, that way everyone could have sheeped you
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 09:56 GMT
#511
atm i'd rather lynch a lurker than adam
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 10:38 GMT
#520
bleh it wasn't a "plan" or whatever everyone is making it out to be. I wanted the game to start immediately so I did something that was silly enough to comment on and the whole thing got taken way more seriously than I planned. But I didn't really care because I really do not mind being a topic of discussion, if anything it makes you more emotionally involved in the game. it was mostly a joke based on an assumption that everyone assumes everyone else reads the op and especially the role list.

I was not trying to convince anyone that I was actually a miller... but people started making it into a much bigger issue than I had planned so I just went along with it for a bit to see what would happen. I have seen people posting in this thread who say i'm town but also appear confused as to what I was trying to do... (mostly nothing other than get the game going)

I still dont think it was some awful, terrible play everyone is calling it but I'd rather take that up in the end game. I know this post isn't really related to the game but I'm getting a little annoyed seeing people talk about how I had a dumb townie plan when it wasn't really a 'plan' to begin with.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 10:57 GMT
#523
I get that it's messy but I don't mind what it's led to. I know you said that's irrelevant to how good/bad it actually is.. but never at any point before or during my claim did I think I had messed anything up. If I'm good at anything as town, it's getting on a lot of people's town read lists during D1. I was never concerned about actually getting lynched because of it, especially not D1.

My other point is that I did not really have a goal when it started. The joke:plan ratio of what happened leaned way further towards joke than what it eventually turned into. All I feel comfortable admitting was dumb was my assumption that we all assume everyone else reads OPs.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 16:56 GMT
#665
vivax's posts are annoying to try and read because he's an asshole to everybody and he accuses lots of people of being scum without following it up. but my read is that it's townie asshole-ness

I don't like the jay lynch. It was ok earlier on but now it just looks like an obvious mislynch. somehow 3 people are voting for him? I dont understand those votes.

I don't like adam as the lynch either. Here is the series of events I see....

He asks a question about my meta. Other people have brought up that this doesn't have to be bad but it's at least pointless as he can look at my meta himself. However I don't think that anyone has pointed out until now that his very next post was directly about my meta, and it specifically referenced a game that was not linked to by anyone in this thread. Regardless of his alignment he at least did the work so that point against him is invalid. Not only is it invalid but I'm actually getting a town read from it. Can scum do this? Sure, but my read from this specific situation is that town did it. Another point against him is his mindset when talking to debears... but tunkeg has done the same thing and it's more extreme of an example imo.

Other than that, there is a weird tone to adam's posts that will make me not be surprised if he's red, but I don't expect that to be the case.

I'm thinking about a tunkeg or maybe a lurker lynch. I don't like any of the other lynches too much.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 17:03 GMT
#669
me?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#678
On December 12 2012 02:17 Tunkeg wrote: Anyways, feel free to lynch me, at least then you know Palmar is pretty much confirmed town. This is probably of more value to the town than me sticking around. Remember to protect him from nighthits if you do this, and you will win this easypeasy.



no it's not? wtf
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 17:44 GMT
#687
VE: what I don't like is that you know enough about what's going on in the thread to know that bugs/palmer have called you out, yet you claim you dont have an opinion on tunkeg/adam because you havent looked at them. does "haven't looked into" mean you haven't read the whole thread yet, or what?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 20:20 GMT
#740
I will probably back off tunkeg especially if he comes back. His martyr post made me think he's just a town who didn't put any effort into the game and is now pissed that everyone is calling him out for it. But he knows he didn't play well so he's pulling the martyr car and calling everyone dumb to make himself feel better.

writing some other stuff about bl
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 20:25 GMT
#741
I could vote for bl pretty easily. I think this is the kind of "scum's first post" clarity is talking about. I was probably top 3 lurker that game an I even knew I was probably going to be lurking. So I made a longer post that appeared comprehensive but didn't actually add much to the thread. The way he worded some of his later posts was pretty scummy. Clarity already mentioned them. And finally... he only skimmed through palmer's video suggesting low interest in the story of the thread.

debears, why are you so irrational and emotional this game?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 11 2012 20:27 GMT
#742
how does everyone seriously feel about a lurker lynch?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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