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On December 11 2012 03:05 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 03:03 marvellosity wrote:
so you're saying that if someone doesn't do something you expect from their townselves, it is necessarily scummy? If it's way different from their town selves, then it's hell of a lot more likely they are scum/third party, yes. Note DP in ACME Thrawn in Mario Mini You in GSL III* I don't have too many more off the top of my head lol
Disregarding DP and his funny JK claim, these aren't really applicable. These are manners of playing - lurky or not-invested or whatever you want to call it. Going "lol i'm miller" is a pretty different thing. It's wacky and it's dumb and different in such a stupid/weird way that I don't get why you'd automatically think the departure from townattitude = scum. I don't like how you can't see the difference.
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On December 11 2012 04:23 Tunkeg wrote:
So I have skimmed through the thread. And these are my thoughts:
Thrawn's "claim" is a joke claim. He did it in the very beginning, and quickly and without concern went back on it. I didn't like his response when called out on it. But when he in the end explained why he did as he did, it was an ok (no more, no less) explanation. I truly think people read to much into stuff like this, and overfocuses on it. I have many times made posts early that people have labeled stupid, with them voting for me and almost misslynching me (mainly because they didn't get my logic behind doing them, even after I explained it). I don't think the millar "claim" is anything worth spending much time analysing, but I would say that I find it more likely that a townie would do this.
I like Clarity's post on jaybrundage. I think jaybrundage's posts are very non-commiting, and very fluffy. I have played games with jaybrundage before, and I may be wrong, but I think his style resembles what he did in Student, where he was scum. A very wishy-washy style, where he eventually did some major slips.
I am also abit concerned about Djodref, I think he is posting alot, but his posts are very fluffy. I haven't played with him before, is this his style or?
Hi scum
Thank you for 'skimming' the thread as your first action. Thank you for also saying a whole lot of nothing. You're telling us that his style resembles Student mafia...but you could be wrong? This smacks of laziness and wanting to back up your non-point with a non-meta read.
Both your 'reads' rest on fluffy/wishywashy but this is exactly what you're doing. Of all the late enterers this dude is the worst (although Z-bo's concentration on # of mafia and bugs' stuff is desperately trying to run him close  )
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On December 11 2012 05:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
@marv
thoughts on munk-E?
no particular thoughts other than he's playing noobily, no opinion on which side he's batting for yet. I agree his post you quoted was contradictory but I don't know why it has to be scummy contradictory atm. More posts etc.
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On December 11 2012 05:38 Vivax wrote:So I've been scratching my balls while reading the thread for the last 20 minutes, and when I saw jaybrundages posts, they started to hurt. ##Vote jaybrundageShow nested quote +On December 11 2012 04:23 Tunkeg wrote:
Thrawn's "claim" is a joke claim. He did it in the very beginning, and quickly and without concern went back on it. I didn't like his response when called out on it. But when he in the end explained why he did as he did, it was an ok (no more, no less) explanation. So you are okay with this post? Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible To me it looks like you didn't study the matter enough. This explanation sucks hard. He's basically leaving the defense of himself to everybody else. He never said explicitly that he joked, he only said explicitly that he had intentions, fuck knows which. That being said, I suggest you go back and read the stuff before you make the same mistake I made with clarity.
um... where the fuck in here is your justification for voting jay, other than the fact you have some obsession with touching your own genitals?
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On December 11 2012 05:44 grush57 wrote:
Also Adam is reminding me of his scum play.
pray tell?
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On December 11 2012 05:53 grush57 wrote:
I remember in LVI I was on scum with Adam, and it reminds me of how he is semi-active but not really doing anything.
The thing I didn't like about Adam was that I had to press him to turn his commentary into a read on debears. Other than that he's actually posted a little more already than I was expecting him to, so meh. I'm slightly something on Adam but I'm not sure what yet :p
Can I interest you fine people in a scum lynch, a la Tunkeg? Is there anyone out there who actually gets good vibes from how he came into the thread?
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On December 11 2012 06:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Marv
Yeah his opening post is a humongous waste of time, but it's just one post.
To which I respond: exactly.
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who said anything about calling it a day? He's the scummiest dude around right now though.
Vivax and Z-bo are coming up behind. I don't like how Vivax only justified his vote after being asked, and his whole ball-scratching thing screams "i'm trying to make this totes casual like" in conjunction with this.
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On December 11 2012 06:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't understand why you're trying to rally people to sheep you right now, when we're still in the first half of D1.
I'm glad you started making scumreads rather than soft defending a bunch of people though. Could you expand on Zbo?
As a general rule I kinda like pushing my preferred candidate, dear.
Z-Bo because he came into the thread late, and then spent a few posts nitpicking at both the 80% figure and the presumed number of scum. It's an irrelevant way to enter the thread and spend your time. His posts just aren't constructive.
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Because I'm a saddo I just finished watching Palmar's video ;p
Couple of things:
I don't agree that vivax's thought on scum fakeclaiming miller is more likely to be a town mistake, it's not that important though so i'll only post more about it if it's really necessary
I still don't particularly want to lynch jay right now, he could be scum but he could also be flailing town
I need to rethink Adam/debears, Palmar talked about it a bunch, and I came away from it thinking I had the wrong end of the stick.
Now to read le thread.
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On December 11 2012 10:48 debears wrote:
Marvy baby. Thoughts on my recent posts on adam?
I like it. I have very little else to add other than I agree that it makes no sense that he was talking to you that way when you were his scumread.
I'd understand it more if this was the start of the interactions, but it's been going on a while.
Tunkeg has done jack shit to make me think he's town which I love to lynch for on Day 1, but Adam has betrayed a scum mentality right there.
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also VE: "strongly and vehemently null". A contradiction in terms, dear? ^^
also debears, Clarity is right. Your townread on Palmar is/was hilariously ludicrous.
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On December 11 2012 11:30 debears wrote:
I know marv. All in good fun :D
well... alright. if you weren't serious then don't do it, because it wastes a whole bunch of thread where clarity rightly calls you a tool. If you were serious, then you are a tool.
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no, I'd happily hang Tunkeg right now. That should be pretty clear. I'm not sure why you think what I have to say on one player would invalidate what I have to say on another?
The post debears highlighted is out of place with the rest of Adam's filter. He was aggressive both before and after that post, but in that particular post he was practically conciliatory. Why?
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yes. Maybe I've been infected by Palmar o.o
Seriously though, for Tunkeg it's the absence of towniness, for Adam it's the presence of a scum mindset (oops! treated you as town there for a minute... back to shouting at you again!)
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On December 11 2012 12:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't really understand adam's "scumslip" that debears pointed out. He was asked to clarify his read on debears so at the time he answered leaning scum.
Why does everyone find it weird that when directly asked to make it more clear what his read is on debears he answers slightly scummy, and then quite a bit later explains that when he said "I'll call you scum when I think you're scum", which in my head means he's not confident in debears being scum.... hence the leaning part, no?
Am I missing something?
Unless I completely forgot what I read in the thread, the bolded was referring to Adam talking about thrawn, which is nothing to do with anything.
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also, why aren't you in bed Clarity? why aren't I?
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On December 11 2012 12:17 Clarity_nl wrote:Ehhh... re-reading.... Okay, so the post in question where adam treats debears as town is this: Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 10:06 Adam4167 wrote:
Dabears, you seem to be misunderstanding what I mean by "If I wanted to call you scummy, I would have". This is not me giving an indication as to my read on his alignment one way or another, this was me saying "I will call you scum when I am more confident that it is the case". I found his initial opening to be strange as its not something I can imagine myself doing, so I wanted him to explain his motives behind it. He did, eventually and I can relate to hating the initial policy discussion. I find Thrawn most likely a town with a risky opening. I did what I did early game to try and get a reaction out of him, it wasn't entirely productive, but I have a tentative read on thrawn from it.
Now, I'm going to sit down and watch Palmars video and give my thoughts.
You're right, it's about thrawn my bad. But I still don't get it. If jay walked in and interpreted my post wrong I would clarify as well, why is it necessarily a scum mindset?
Does his attitude in that post not seem out of sync with his other posts?
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well, bleh. Now I'm doubting. I shall sleep on it, and great wisdom will come forth tomorrow.
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