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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#1226
On December 13 2012 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 08:33 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 08:21 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 08:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Clarity
Regarding your BL case.
I don't really think it was a bus from him.
I feel scum would rather give reasons and over-explain in his situation rather than just saying "He's gonna get lynched anyway".
It is suspicious how he posted a list then went Awol for a pretty long time though. I'm not familiar with his meta to say if that's common for him, but I don't view bl as scummy.


What? He's suspicious for making a list and going AWOL, but you don't view him as scummy?

Is this really purely based on the fact he voted Adam?


...Didn't I just say that I don't feel it was a bus from him?

On December 13 2012 08:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Clarity
Regarding your BL case.
I don't really think it was a bus from him.
I feel scum would rather give reasons and over-explain in his situation rather than just saying "He's gonna get lynched anyway".
It is suspicious how he posted a list then went Awol for a pretty long time though. I'm not familiar with his meta to say if that's common for him, but I don't view bl as scummy.


Hmm.. it seems I did.
With regards to his lurkiness, and since he's a vet, I'm not gonna make that call.


you don't wanna make the call that he's scummy, but he is 'suspicious' in your words. What would make him scummy to you?


What kinda question is this? He'll be scummy when I see scum mentality from him.
You have played with him before, right? Do you think he's scum? Do you think he bussed Adam?


What marv is getting at is that BL entered the thread spreading suspicion on four players, and never mentioned them again when he comfortably parked his vote on Adam. That seems like scum mentality to me.

But what makes you think BL is town?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#1228
On December 13 2012 08:42 Palmar wrote:
btw, if for some reason I get shit

Bugs
VE
Djodref

are all good lynches


Can you explain Djo a bit? I thought his end-of-D1 antics seemed fairly town, even if stupid.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:05 GMT
#1297
oh. well shit
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:17 GMT
#1302
Between Bluelightz and Tunkeg for me atm. Tunkeg's martyr post doesn't look too hot right now given WBG's flip.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:23 GMT
#1305
Clarity's vigi claim makes no sense from a scum perspective.
1) If he's the mafia vigi, he risks a counter-claim from a possible town vigi
2) Why would mafia vigi bugs, when they could waste a lynch on him today?

Pretty sure Clarity's town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:25 GMT
#1309
On December 13 2012 10:24 Palmar wrote:
Let's move down the list then, VE seems like he's not done anything good all game.


Yes, but neither has Tungken or Bluelightz. I get some town vibes from VE willing to sheep you so candidly. Whereas from the other two... not so much.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:30 GMT
#1311
Part of me is pretty skeptical that town-Palmar missed something so obvious on Clarity...

On December 13 2012 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Clarity's vigi claim makes no sense from a scum perspective.
1) If he's the mafia vigi, he risks a counter-claim from a possible town vigi
2) Why would mafia vigi bugs, when they could waste a lynch on him today?

Pretty sure Clarity's town.

On December 13 2012 10:24 Palmar wrote:
yeah I guess.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:34 GMT
#1314
Let's drop the claim stuff - there's no point dwelling on it since it already happened. He did it, and it's likely a town move.

I'll get things rolling on Bluelightz I suppose. I find his play pretty scummy so far.
##Vote Bluelightz

Also Jay, who's your top scumread after this whole fiasco?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:39 GMT
#1317
You mean you didn't seriously look at Bluelightz at all until now?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:42 GMT
#1323
Lol Vivax... was about to say there for a sec.

I'll need to sit down and take a look at his meta. His light-heartedness struck me as town, but I don't know enough about his play in context to make a good decision on him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:44 GMT
#1325
On December 13 2012 10:41 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm wondering if there was some point in time where scum decided to bus adam. who joined early, who joined late etc.


Adam is fairly self-admonishing about his own scum-play from what I've seen in games (CT Mafia) and one of my very limited PM correspondances with him. I wouldn't be surprised if he was rather willing to get bussed.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:46 GMT
#1327
On December 13 2012 10:45 Vivax wrote:
By lightheartedness you mean his general disinterest in hunting scum even though he regularly posts in a way that suggests he wants to?

Or voting for people without giving a damn about them afterwards.


Which is why I need to take some time and take a look at him
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:51 GMT
#1332
I have Z-Bo as leaning-scum through process of elimination atm.

Djo... I still think his D1 lynch actions are townie. There was that series of "COUNTERWAGON GO" posts that seem suicidal from a scum perspective. One could certainly interpret it as him not giving a shit about who gets lynched other than adam, but I just can't connect a mentality of Djo knowing Adam was scum, knowing that Adam was the clear leader to get hanged, and then going off and pulling the stunts that he did.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 02:42 GMT
#1337

@ Jay

I do want some answers for some things I found in your filter however:
On December 12 2012 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm I think BL would of been a good lynch, Im leaning town on thrawn. Adam honeslty im not sure on but I dont want a no lynch.

##Vote Adam


You seemingly pull your read on Bluelightz out of a hat here. I haven't seen you mention BL in your filter except for the fact that he was a lurker. Can you explain what you were thinking of bluelightz at the time, and also what is your current read on the guy?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 02:53 GMT
#1339
On December 13 2012 11:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 10:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Between Bluelightz and Tunkeg for me atm. Tunkeg's martyr post doesn't look too hot right now given WBG's flip.


Hapa, can you elaborate? Why do you think that Tunkeg looks worse now that WBG has flipped?


Part of the reason I was leaning town on him was because I agreed with his read on WBG (martyr post). Since it was wrong though, there's not much else in that post of substance. Some obvious town reads, obvious scum read in Adam, seemingly easy case on Jay... it looks far less townie than it first appeared to me.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 02:54 GMT
#1340
Also Z-Bo, who's your top scumread now in the face of the WBG flip? Still Vivax?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 03:12 GMT
#1344
On December 13 2012 12:01 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 11:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 13 2012 11:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 10:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Between Bluelightz and Tunkeg for me atm. Tunkeg's martyr post doesn't look too hot right now given WBG's flip.


Hapa, can you elaborate? Why do you think that Tunkeg looks worse now that WBG has flipped?


Part of the reason I was leaning town on him was because I agreed with his read on WBG (martyr post). Since it was wrong though, there's not much else in that post of substance. Some obvious town reads, obvious scum read in Adam, seemingly easy case on Jay... it looks far less townie than it first appeared to me.


So if he had given wbg a town read, would he have been looking better atm?


I'd say he would have looked better if he expressed some more doubt or skepticisim. On a second readthrough of his filter (WBG-tunnelvision-off), his martyr post reads a lot like "oh since I might get lynched, I'll finally bother to post some reads."
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 03:25 GMT
#1348
On December 13 2012 12:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 12:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 13 2012 12:01 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 11:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 13 2012 11:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 10:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Between Bluelightz and Tunkeg for me atm. Tunkeg's martyr post doesn't look too hot right now given WBG's flip.


Hapa, can you elaborate? Why do you think that Tunkeg looks worse now that WBG has flipped?


Part of the reason I was leaning town on him was because I agreed with his read on WBG (martyr post). Since it was wrong though, there's not much else in that post of substance. Some obvious town reads, obvious scum read in Adam, seemingly easy case on Jay... it looks far less townie than it first appeared to me.


So if he had given wbg a town read, would he have been looking better atm?


I'd say he would have looked better if he expressed some more doubt or skepticisim. On a second readthrough of his filter (WBG-tunnelvision-off), his martyr post reads a lot like "oh since I might get lynched, I'll finally bother to post some reads."


Reading his filter, he seemed 100% confident that bugs was scum, asking to put vig shots on him, etc. Do you make this to be a scum excuse to not post any real content (which he hasn't done so far) or a town who really actually thinks bugs was scum?


The confidence is odd, but other people I have town reads on also did the whole "Bugs is totes scum" deal.

If there's anything scummy about his reads, I'd say the "Palmar is confirmed town" stuff is quite a stretch. Like I have a town read on Palmar, but confirmed town is pretty redic.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 03:26 GMT
#1349
On December 13 2012 12:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 12:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 12:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 13 2012 12:01 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 11:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 13 2012 11:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On December 13 2012 10:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Between Bluelightz and Tunkeg for me atm. Tunkeg's martyr post doesn't look too hot right now given WBG's flip.


Hapa, can you elaborate? Why do you think that Tunkeg looks worse now that WBG has flipped?


Part of the reason I was leaning town on him was because I agreed with his read on WBG (martyr post). Since it was wrong though, there's not much else in that post of substance. Some obvious town reads, obvious scum read in Adam, seemingly easy case on Jay... it looks far less townie than it first appeared to me.


So if he had given wbg a town read, would he have been looking better atm?


I'd say he would have looked better if he expressed some more doubt or skepticisim. On a second readthrough of his filter (WBG-tunnelvision-off), his martyr post reads a lot like "oh since I might get lynched, I'll finally bother to post some reads."


Reading his filter, he seemed 100% confident that bugs was scum, asking to put vig shots on him, etc. Do you make this to be a scum excuse to not post any real content (which he hasn't done so far) or a town who really actually thinks bugs was scum?


Idk, I don't expect smart town to try and direct night actions like that


I'm reading into it more as an attempt to contribute with incredibly non-controversial statements.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 03:36 GMT
#1352
Yeah, but at the same time, there are legitimate suspicions against those players. Hopefully any potential townies in the group can step up to the plate and show some effort today, but we can't give 'em a free pass just because they played bad/scummy/whatever yesterday and could have gotten lynched.
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