EPTYou implied you had a townread on him, I asked you why and reasoned why you shouldn't yet, and you got all defensive.
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You implied you had a townread on him, I asked you why and reasoned why you shouldn't yet, and you got all defensive. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:52 debears wrote: Do you not see that, if he doesn't know his alignment, then his ideas were from a townie mindset? Yes, dude, fuck. But you said "I'm bad if you're scum" which implies you believe he's town WHICH IS FUCKING DUMB | ||
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HE MADE THE READS WITHOUT KNOWING HIS ALIGNMENT, HOW CAN HIS READS THAT HE MADE BEFORE READING HIS PM BE ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:41 debears wrote: Please stop telling me who I should have a town read on. You don't like it? Vote me Because I won't stop telling you who you should have a scum or townread on, that's kind of my job as town. First I convince myself and then I convince others. Anyway I'm off to bed, please look at jay's filter, my case on jay and his reaction to it. Notice how he tried to slip away from all the thrawn stuff by explaining why he voted for him, but not explaining why his reasoning changed. Please notice he has yet to pressure anyone and he has yet to put an original thought together. All he's done lately is tell others to be productive On December 11 2012 09:17 jaybrundage wrote: im curious at what point did you check your role. I wish you would push more content out palmar the day is more then half over and you have mostly posted about your stream. On December 11 2012 07:49 jaybrundage wrote: Tunkeg your here no reason to lurk. Its bad for town. @Z-Boston Your case on Djodref is pretty good. He has a lack of scum hunting going back and forth with out any good reasons. I would also like to see from our MunkE and adam hasnt been here for a while. Also I would like to see WBG and VE's thoughts on Djodref and Z-Bostons case GUYS WHY DON'T YOU DO THE STUFF I'M NOT DOING?! Do the right thing, vote jaybrundage! Cya'll tomorrow. | ||
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Why does everyone find it weird that when directly asked to make it more clear what his read is on debears he answers slightly scummy, and then quite a bit later explains that when he said "I'll call you scum when I think you're scum", which in my head means he's not confident in debears being scum.... hence the leaning part, no? Am I missing something? | ||
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Okay, so the post in question where adam treats debears as town is this: On December 11 2012 10:06 Adam4167 wrote: Dabears, you seem to be misunderstanding what I mean by "If I wanted to call you scummy, I would have". This is not me giving an indication as to my read on his alignment one way or another, this was me saying "I will call you scum when I am more confident that it is the case". I found his initial opening to be strange as its not something I can imagine myself doing, so I wanted him to explain his motives behind it. He did, eventually and I can relate to hating the initial policy discussion. I find Thrawn most likely a town with a risky opening. I did what I did early game to try and get a reaction out of him, it wasn't entirely productive, but I have a tentative read on thrawn from it. Now, I'm going to sit down and watch Palmars video and give my thoughts. You're right, it's about thrawn my bad. But I still don't get it. If jay walked in and interpreted my post wrong I would clarify as well, why is it necessarily a scum mindset? | ||
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On December 11 2012 12:15 marvellosity wrote: also, why aren't you in bed Clarity? why aren't I? Once I wake, I'm done for. | ||
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Saying he forgot who he was pressuring is like saying BH forgot who his mason partner was, so it was just him being... nicer than his other posts? Adam might be scum but I don't see how that "scumslip" suddenly condemns him, and like Thrawn am rather confused you "dropped" (yes I realize you said you didn't drop it) your vote on Tunkeg. On December 11 2012 12:32 debears wrote: Clarity there are two problematic parts with the adam post 1) he uses the word "misunderstand", which implies that he thinks I am town. Yet, he has his vote on me and has called me scummy 2) He goes out of his way to explain his thrawn thing with someone who he thinks is scummy and he has a vote on That's scummy. No questions asked What are you saying, that scum are incapable of misunderstanding anything? | ||
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On December 11 2012 12:43 marvellosity wrote: so i'm still awake. how are the two remotely similar? stop talking nonsense. BH was just a total moron for a while. Would you suggest that's what's going on here?? Yes I understand, I'm just pointing out odds are he did not forget who his vote was on, that doesn't somehow absolve him. I still don't see it/agree with the fact that it's a "scumslip. You guys are saying that a town Adam would say debears is twisting his words and lying, but again why is that the only thing he would say? Why can't a town Adam think a scum debears is misunderstanding him and just clarify, without him going "OMFG BTW UR SCUM!!!!" Scum don't push scum agendas with every post, and town don't push their lynch with every post..... Anyway I guess I'll just let Adam speak for himself but don't expect an Adam vote from me unless there's an actual case that goes beyond this one point. | ||
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On December 11 2012 12:56 debears wrote: That's really convenient clarity, because as far as I could tell he had only talked about me and thrawn. And he only called me scum. He must have a really bad memory. Anyways I have to read his case on Vivax @everyone didn't someone else make a case on vivax? If so can you tell me what page it is on? Reading comprehension, acquire some. | ||
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On December 11 2012 17:26 Tunkeg wrote: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... You should probably vote then. It looks like you are trying to convince yourself I am scum. You are looking at what I am saying with the notion: "He is scum", and you make everything I say fit into that notion. Also, if you think this is me being upset, you might get surprised when I do  On December 11 2012 17:36 Tunkeg wrote: I am not treating you like town. I am saying you are capable of getting me lynched regardless of allignment. And imo it is your "debatish" attitude towards the game that have given you a reputation for being a strong scumplayer. Your way of misrepresenting facts and winning arguements when being wrong helps you as scum, but is not that great when you are town. Either way you are wrong here, I am town, so you are either scum deliberatly trying to misrepresent the facts, or town overeager to win the arguement and not seeing the truth. Okay I'm willing to consolidate on Tunkeg at this point. Still want my Jay lynch though. | ||
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Eh, it'll suck if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. | ||
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On December 11 2012 20:54 Palmar wrote: I'll admit that I find it easier to roll with the crowd wanting to lynch adam (myself, debears, marv) than with the crowd wanting to lynch jay (djodref, bluelightz, VE etc). It's a ridiculously dangerous game trying to guess someone's alignment based on the actions of others (the people voting him), but I just like the Adam lynch a whole lot better. I admit this has been a nagging doubt all game for me. The "wrong" people are on the wagon I started. Although I had the same feeling with Sandroba in Chrono and he flipped red just fine. marv could you explain why jay is such an easy mislynch? Did you mean in the context of this game? Because the way you said it you made it sound like that's his meta. | ||
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On December 12 2012 01:43 Bluelightz wrote: Aight. From the thread, I'm gonna vote ##Vote: Adam4167 Because of Palmar's case and my own reasons. I believe this is the most helpful vote I can put in before I sleep as I have school so can't be here @ the deadline. What are your own reasons? | ||
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