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On December 19 2012 18:59 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 14:57 Djodref wrote:
@ Bluelightz
Could you make us a big post about how you feel during this game ? Anything that could show us that you are town, really..
I don't necessarily want scumhunting, I just want a post bigger than usual... How I feel? I feel kinda discouraged from as I said, people shutting down me from speaking anything like what thrawn did (not that it's a scummy thing he did that cuz I guess it's normal trying to shut scum from squirming in the thread assuming I am hypothetically scum). Also, considering the likely chance I will live in LYLO, I just don't wanna get lynched AGAIN. (Can't tell you how many times I've been lynched during LYLO/fucked up during it). If you guys consider me scum - fine, it's not my responsibility to shoulder the blame for my mislynch.
Come on Bluelightz, we went over this a couple of days ago. This thread has given you a lot of slack now, mainly from Palmar and I leaning town on you. This means you've had space to operate, and you're still not doing so. Imagine it's LYLO, you're fighting for your life, what do you do?
On December 19 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Just lynch BL first, then me at LYLO. Can we agree on that? I don't want to play this longer than I have to.
Hapa, what is this? You argue that you don't want to be lynched right now, but also that you want to play the game for as little time as possible. What gives?
Djodref, where are you at with your #1 scumread? It's hard to tell at the moment with the little game you're playing with who we should be lynching when.
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On December 19 2012 15:01 jaybrundage wrote:
Im curious. What are you going to do when i flip town.
come back from the parallel dimension I was visiting and lynch you here
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On December 19 2012 18:59 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 14:57 Djodref wrote:
@ Bluelightz
Could you make us a big post about how you feel during this game ? Anything that could show us that you are town, really..
I don't necessarily want scumhunting, I just want a post bigger than usual... How I feel? I feel kinda discouraged from as I said, people shutting down me from speaking anything like what thrawn did (not that it's a scummy thing he did that cuz I guess it's normal trying to shut scum from squirming in the thread assuming I am hypothetically scum). Also, considering the likely chance I will live in LYLO, I just don't wanna get lynched AGAIN. (Can't tell you how many times I've been lynched during LYLO/fucked up during it). If you guys consider me scum - fine, it's not my responsibility to shoulder the blame for my mislynch.
Can't believe I missed this on first pass. It is absolutely your fault, if you are town, if you get mislynched at any point, LYLO or otherwise. Because it marks your complete failure to show yourself as town. Putting the blame on to others is horrible.
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On December 20 2012 00:50 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 19:21 Djodref wrote:On December 19 2012 18:59 Bluelightz wrote:On December 19 2012 14:57 Djodref wrote:
@ Bluelightz
Could you make us a big post about how you feel during this game ? Anything that could show us that you are town, really..
I don't necessarily want scumhunting, I just want a post bigger than usual... How I feel? I feel kinda discouraged from as I said, people shutting down me from speaking anything like what thrawn did (not that it's a scummy thing he did that cuz I guess it's normal trying to shut scum from squirming in the thread assuming I am hypothetically scum). Also, considering the likely chance I will live in LYLO, I just don't wanna get lynched AGAIN. (Can't tell you how many times I've been lynched during LYLO/fucked up during it). If you guys consider me scum - fine, it's not my responsibility to shoulder the blame for my mislynch. I think you have a good chance now to speak without being shut down. How are you feeling about this lynch ? Confident that we are going to hit scum ? Who would be the remaining scum if jay flips red and why ? Who would you have as scum if jay flips green ? I feel good because my feelings on jay's defense of VE was like "No, this isn't what a townie would do" and yes I am confident. On the remaining scum? I think it's between Marv, grush, or Hapa.
What was it about jay's defence that you didn't think a townie would do?
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Could you find the post and explain it?
*prods you to work*
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On December 20 2012 02:12 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 10:00 jaybrundage wrote:On December 18 2012 09:30 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok we have ten people left to vote. If marv is right about 4 mafia then we have 7 town and 3 mafia left.
That means that out of the 7 people that voted VE 1 of them is mafia. As i as town have not voted for VE
There is no reason to bus VE as Djo was a easy option considering if hes town.
Also if VE is townie that means that there are 2 scum on this lynch.
So therefore we shouldnt lynch VE cause 2 scum on on VE's lynch wagon
Any questions? BUMP FOR TRUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This post - It feels like a desperate attempt to switch the wagon on someone else, also, he seems very sure that VE is town (Why would a townie feel sure that this guy is town? There is no solid evidence - disregarding that jay is scum ofc) and, he doesn't explain why we shouldn't lynch VE because there is 2 scum on his wagon.
This might be the best point you've made all game. ok for now.
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Did you ever check out Hapa's filter in Chrono Vivax? If so, what did you make of it?
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we have a vote thread, Hapa.
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I would point out that I'm smirking at you quite hard, given you've managed to vote in it fine the previous 2 cycles.
Must be the irc mafia hangover.
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Hapa, re: finals, does that mean you'll be gone until post-lynch??
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I think you'd be standing on iffy ground with a video.
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On December 20 2012 09:57 Djodref wrote:
@ Hapa
I'm very interested in your opinion on Vivax
is this a Hapa-specific question, Djo?
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Vivax would seem to be an odd target. He's playing classic pants-on-head townie. Why would a town OR a scum hapa make a case on him?
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because Vivax is pushing him so hard you mean?
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Because I'm lazy and I remembered I'd said it months ago somehow:
On July 14 2012 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
From what I know of town Vivax: makes stupid connection cases, bad logical leaps, active and try hard
From what I know of scum Vivax: lurky and summarises a lot of stuff. yes it's only one game that's what i got
I'm seeing more of scenario 1 at the moment
Vivax has done questionable things, but if he hadn't I'd ironically think he'd probably be scum. He's clearly pouring effort into this game even though it's horrendously unfocused, and there are many posts where he shows he's attentively read the thread or what people have said, mixed in with posts where it seems he hasn't read the thread at all.
I don't see much point talking about Vivax when he's pretty clearly town.
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I agree that we shouldn't mindlessly lynch anyone. I'm not sure why town has been quiet today in particular, but generally we've had a very active town and I don't think we're prone to lynching without being quite sure. 2 out of 3 scum lynches in the first 3 days is testament to that.
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Firstly Djodref, don't ask people to concede, because that is the opposite of respectful ^^
Let's go through a couple of hypotheticals. If I'd died last night, would that have made it more or less likely that Hapa was scum (let's remove other behaviour for the moment). Or is it just the fact that Hapa has talked about the night actions a few times that are making you lean more heavily that Hapa is scum?
If we take the base assumption that last night mostly town was thinking jay and probably Hapa, what do you think Hapa is gaining from doing what he's done and said about the night kills? If anything, it's made people think he's *more* likely to be scum, correct?
I'm not getting my point across very clearly :/ What I'm trying to say is that you're actually yourself wifoming the night actions, and who knows if the night actions weren't made to incriminate Hapa further? It can be argued that Hapa *wouldn't* draw attention to the night-kills if it was a cunning plan.
What I want from Hapa is for him to explain his play. I've pointed out two or three contradictions in things that he's said, and there's always been an explanation (that was dumb, dunno what I was thinking, whatever) and thrawn pointed out another further up on this page. The issue is not any single one contradiction but the fact they keep popping up indicates a longer-term pattern of not being able to keep a story straight.
Z-bo - what's your opinion on Hapa right now? From your recent filter it seems like you're more suspicious of BL, but it's not totally explicit.
On December 20 2012 19:25 Bluelightz wrote:
Cant post too much today guys - flying soon and real life is a bitch.
So BL, knowing you were flying and real life, yesterday's contributions were your best attempts?
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hi jay. How about that case on Z-bo? Hmm?
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jay, as far as I can see all you've said is 'gut read' and you've spent most of the rest of your time answering random questions and accusations. So, whatever.
Djodref, I just went over Hapa's post about night actions again. The issue I have with it from a scum-Hapa perspective is that he's almost painting himself as scum. He dismisses the option of a scum-marv witholding a shot, fine, but then gives two other options - himself doing so, or scum forgetting. He basically gave options where the likeliest option is that he did it. Having understood this I'm not willing to attribute a scumread to it.
The problem I have are the incessant contradictions, and his attitude at the time of the VE claim really smacks of scum trying to find a way to not lynch VE right then.
On a general note I worry at this stage of the game where things seem "preordained" that the final scum member is surprising and not what town is trending towards - like Z-Bo, grush, or BL. I've seen town lose too many games like this so we need to concentrate on the players who are probably town like this as well as Hapa.
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I said Munk-E's absence + vote were atrocious and the scummiest vote on Day 1 
Remember there was enough in your filter for the first couple of days to lynch the piss out of you, as well.
That was until you started shitting townie rainbows in the thread.
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