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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:06 GMT
#3073
On December 24 2012 07:05 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:01 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:57 Djodref wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:54 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:51 Djodref wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Why would I go all-in with Z-Bo? It's not like was an apparent lynch candidate for a hypothetical tomorrow


Mm. I disagree. Thrawn and Vivax would have gone after Z-Bo, and yeah, both of them are dead.

Thrawn was convinced that one scum had to be among the people not voting Adam D1. This led him to write his Z-Bo case before, and he mentioned it again before being killed.

Vivax has been tunneled but Z-Bo a lot this game, so I guess that he could have found him suspicious at some point.


But that's the thing - your strategy is not coherent. We eliminated all the opposition to Z-Bo... then decided to go all out today? If that was our NK plan, Z-Bo would bus me today and he would be our endgame player.

I still don't understand why you think a town marv is alive at lylo.


I don't know. It could be easy not to kill him to bring this argument. It's like reverse framing. Today is all or nothing imo, so why not bring marv along.

Shit, I hate my position right now.


Do you know what the first post in my Mario Mini Mafia QT was?
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/8tUWEsHeiEQ

"Default rule - Marv dies N1. That is all."

Killing marv is my #1 goal in all my scumgames. He's the player that's most familiar with my scum meta. That's also shows how much respect I have for his townplay - he will eat a scumteam alive if left alive for a long time.


So why did you keep a town read on marv for all game ?


'Cause he tricked me man. Also, if I had a town read on marv, and everyone had a town read on marv, why the fuck wouldn't he be dead right now? Do you seriously think that town marv would be allowed to live over players like thrawn and vivax... seriously?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:10 GMT
#3076
On December 24 2012 07:08 Djodref wrote:
And why is Z-Bo getting all worried right now ?
I thought that he had you as scum. He can prove his innocence tomorrow...


Because marv and Grush are going "Lol hapa + Z-Boson scum!" Should be pretty obvious to him who the scumteam is right now.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:12 GMT
#3079
On December 24 2012 07:11 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:08 Djodref wrote:
And why is Z-Bo getting all worried right now ?
I thought that he had you as scum. He can prove his innocence tomorrow...


Because marv and Grush are going "Lol hapa + Z-Boson scum!" Should be pretty obvious to him who the scumteam is right now.


Why do you defend him ?


Why not? I got town-vibes in my conversation with him last night. Also, it's pretty clear that marv + grush are going all-in to win today. They have no choice.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:13 GMT
#3081
Howabout this Djo - I'm CONVINCED that marv + grush are the scumteam. You have some pretty heavy doubts about grush yourself. I'm more than willing to consolidate on either.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:15 GMT
#3086
I'm not scum marv. You are.

I was wrong earlier today, and now I'm convinced I'm on the right track. You and grush are going all-in, and I'll do my damnest to stop you from winning.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:16 GMT
#3090
On December 24 2012 07:14 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Howabout this Djo - I'm CONVINCED that marv + grush are the scumteam. You have some pretty heavy doubts about grush yourself. I'm more than willing to consolidate on either.


Blew, I'm chosing between you or marv. I like it better like that...


Fine with me.

So rationalize how marv is alive? Also work through the NKs - how have players like thrawn, vivax, and debears died before a marv that everyone in the game has had a town-read on?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:17 GMT
#3094
On December 24 2012 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
hapa is pushing me as a scumread, having this fucking cycle given me a 99% townread.

How much can you fucking flail. Give me a break.


Remember this marv?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=48#943

Oh the memories.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:18 GMT
#3097
On December 24 2012 07:15 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:15 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm not scum marv. You are.

I was wrong earlier today, and now I'm convinced I'm on the right track. You and grush are going all-in, and I'll do my damnest to stop you from winning.


How are we going " all-in".
You and Z-bo are by far the most active today.


Rofl. I just finished with a road-trip and I'm trying to lynch you and your scumbuddy. Of course I'm the most active.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:19 GMT
#3100
On December 24 2012 07:17 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:14 Djodref wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Howabout this Djo - I'm CONVINCED that marv + grush are the scumteam. You have some pretty heavy doubts about grush yourself. I'm more than willing to consolidate on either.


Blew, I'm chosing between you or marv. I like it better like that...


Fine with me.

So rationalize how marv is alive? Also work through the NKs - how have players like thrawn, vivax, and debears died before a marv that everyone in the game has had a town-read on?


But I could ask the same question to you: how the fuck are you still alive ?
It's not like you are bad compared to marv...


Easy, I've been a mislynch target all game. I haven't been confirmed town, and ever since N2, I've been one of the primary suspicions of the entire thread. Why would I be dead?

What you should be asking yourself is why someone that everyone thought was town for 4 cycles is not dead.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:20 GMT
#3102
On December 24 2012 07:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
hapa is pushing me as a scumread, having this fucking cycle given me a 99% townread.

How much can you fucking flail. Give me a break.


Remember this marv?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=48#943

Oh the memories.


because that is like this game how?

you yourself have said this game is nothing like that game.

hi scum.


I don't have to rationalize anything to you.

I love ya buddy, but you're scum <3
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:21 GMT
#3104
My only job right now is to convince Djo to vote for the correct candidate
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:26 GMT
#3108
I even drew you a picture Djo:

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:26 GMT
#3110
Don't you love how magically active grush is all of a sudden? It's pretty funny.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:32 GMT
#3115
On December 24 2012 07:27 Djodref wrote:
Plus regarding the mafia NKs, Palmar was town, and he didn't get NKed N1.


Because he was a prime Jailkeeper target on N1. He was shot the second the JK died. Why wouldn't marv be shot? There was zero risk to kill him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:34 GMT
#3117
On December 24 2012 07:27 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:26 Hapahauli wrote:
Don't you love how magically active grush is all of a sudden? It's pretty funny.


I could say the same from Z-Bo.


He hasn't even been here? Isn't he travelling?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:35 GMT
#3118
On December 24 2012 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:27 Djodref wrote:
Plus regarding the mafia NKs, Palmar was town, and he didn't get NKed N1.


Because he was a prime Jailkeeper target on N1. He was shot the second the JK died. Why wouldn't marv be shot? There was zero risk to kill him.


*looks back at all the times I died N1*

*thinks that marv isn't a prime n1 target*

*REMEMBERS THAT THE FUCKING JAILKEEPER TARGETED ME NIGHT 1*


That makes you town how? So WBG JK'd scum by accident. Unfortunate, but we can fix this mistake tonight.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:38 GMT
#3121
On December 24 2012 07:35 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:27 Djodref wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:26 Hapahauli wrote:
Don't you love how magically active grush is all of a sudden? It's pretty funny.


I could say the same from Z-Bo.


He hasn't even been here? Isn't he travelling?


I dunno what did he tell you in the qt?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=153#3048
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=150#2994

But you should already know this since you caught-up in the thread:
On December 24 2012 01:32 grush57 wrote:
Finished reading through thread.
THE SCUM ARE TAKING OVER.
MARV IS TOWN EL STUPIDOS.
SO AM I.
LYNCH HAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AND ZBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Oh wait. You lied.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:39 GMT
#3123
On December 24 2012 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:27 Djodref wrote:
Plus regarding the mafia NKs, Palmar was town, and he didn't get NKed N1.


Because he was a prime Jailkeeper target on N1. He was shot the second the JK died. Why wouldn't marv be shot? There was zero risk to kill him.


*looks back at all the times I died N1*

*thinks that marv isn't a prime n1 target*

*REMEMBERS THAT THE FUCKING JAILKEEPER TARGETED ME NIGHT 1*


That makes you town how? So WBG JK'd scum by accident. Unfortunate, but we can fix this mistake tonight.


it doesn't make me town

however, you going "WHY NO MARV DIE" doesn't make me scum, either.


No, but your lack of killing scum is a pretty big tell.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:46 GMT
#3131
On December 24 2012 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:27 Djodref wrote:
Plus regarding the mafia NKs, Palmar was town, and he didn't get NKed N1.


Because he was a prime Jailkeeper target on N1. He was shot the second the JK died. Why wouldn't marv be shot? There was zero risk to kill him.


*looks back at all the times I died N1*

*thinks that marv isn't a prime n1 target*

*REMEMBERS THAT THE FUCKING JAILKEEPER TARGETED ME NIGHT 1*


That makes you town how? So WBG JK'd scum by accident. Unfortunate, but we can fix this mistake tonight.


it doesn't make me town

however, you going "WHY NO MARV DIE" doesn't make me scum, either.


No, but your lack of killing scum is a pretty big tell.


my sincerest apologies for only voting for scum 2 days out of 3 and then killing the guy that everyone thought was 100% scum afterwards. Seriously, hapa?


You bussed Adam early because you knew you couldn't get away with not sheeping Palmar without looking horrifically bad.

You pushed a lynch on a townie D2
You pushed to lynch jay, Djo, and myself on D3, then sheeped VE when you "finally realized" that he was completely absent from the thread.
You pushed a lynch on a townie D4.

You are scum brah.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:48 GMT
#3134
On December 24 2012 07:44 Djodref wrote:
So, let's assume that marv is town.

He is not killed N1 because of the fear of the JK
He is not killed N2 because he has Djodref as main target for the lynch and VE as town
He is not killed N3 because of scum holding the KP
He is not killed N4 for the WIFOM,

So, yeah, it's possible for marv to be town.


Do you realize how well the kills line up with scum marv?
Debears would be the CLEAR choice for marv (as scum) to kill on Night 1.
Palmar is the clear choice for anyone on Night 2.
No NK on Night 3. Similar to how marv saved KP in both DeathNote Mini (as mafia) and Normal Mini Mafia (as mafia) later in the game.
Night 4. Marv's two top town-reads died.
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