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On December 15 2012 00:15 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 23:58 marvellosity wrote: let's not lynch BL, i'm enjoying his feistiness
Palmar, I spent quite some time in Djo's filter yesterday and I just didn't feel as strongly about it as you seem to, nor do I think it is the correct 'solution'. I need to recheck this 'lie' bit though. Really? How does him being pissed off at the world after doing nothing for 5 days make him more likely town in your eyes?
It doesn't, I should probably have attached a smiley or something. I just laughed out loud at his post with the spoilered "nope".
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On December 15 2012 00:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 00:17 marvellosity wrote:On December 13 2012 21:18 Djodref wrote:On December 13 2012 21:14 Palmar wrote: So why are you lying?
Did you simply forget that you not only stepped in, you figuratively waded in yelling at debears repeatedly for his read on Adam?
Or is there something more malicious to it?
I sincerely wonder, because I'm not 100% sure you're scum, but it makes no sense for you to lie about what you did, from neither alignment, but it doesn't make you look good. I forgot about these posts...Yeah, at that time, I was under the impression that debears was exaggerating in his analisys of Adam's posts. Right, found it, this. I don't understand at all a player from either alignment doing this. It's just horrible. Slightly different tack: Palmar, what makes you think Tunkeg ISN'T a good lynch? I don't quite know. Not yet at least. This is as good time as any to tell you that if it comes down to the two, I'm going to support a Bluelightz lynch over a Tunkeg lynch... I think. But honestly I need to re-read Tunkeg, maybe bugs was onto something.
Please get to it, it's kinda important. Especially his night action obsession, his first reads post in context of flips, and his swing of behaviour between calm and humble when he was being lynched and pointlessly aggressive when he wasn't. At least tell me why he could be town.
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On December 15 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 00:18 marvellosity wrote:On December 15 2012 00:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On December 14 2012 23:58 marvellosity wrote: let's not lynch BL, i'm enjoying his feistiness
Palmar, I spent quite some time in Djo's filter yesterday and I just didn't feel as strongly about it as you seem to, nor do I think it is the correct 'solution'. I need to recheck this 'lie' bit though. Really? How does him being pissed off at the world after doing nothing for 5 days make him more likely town in your eyes? It doesn't, I should probably have attached a smiley or something. I just laughed out loud at his post with the spoilered "nope". Sarcasm gets lost on me, in text. I'm going to read through Tunkeg and BL again. I would much prefer a BL lynch, if Tunkeg couldn't get lynched would you consolidate on BL?
I'd kill Djodref before BL
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On December 15 2012 00:28 Vivax wrote: Wtf is up with you marv, can you find me one thing that could even suggest that BL is town?
Not really, no. But Tunkeg is plain scummy and quite a bit of what Palmar has to say about Djodref is correct, so I'd prefer lynching him over BL.
To recap from my post last night, the reason I'm not at all convinced by BL being scum is I fail to really see the agenda, when I played scum in NMM2 he tried to deflect the lynch OFF scum, here he contributed to it. It's not much but there are better options than BL.
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On December 15 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote: I mean.... yeah every post Tunkeg makes has been "scummy" but a lot of his posts scream "newbie" as well. Does anyone know if he's played much before this? Going through his profile real quick it's 3-4 games but they're fairly old.
He's been around long enough that I'm certainly not giving him a newbie pass.
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On December 15 2012 00:36 Clarity_nl wrote:It's posts like this that I can't get over: Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:56 Tunkeg wrote:On December 11 2012 07:49 Vivax wrote: Tunkeg, do you think Djordref acted scummy in front of thrawns claim? By scummy in front of thrawn's claim, do you mean before thrawn claimed? If so, no, because he didn't post before thrawn claimed. If I think Djordref's play is more scummy in general than thrawn's claim, then yes, as I do find thrawn's claim more townie than scummy, and Djordref's play slightly scummy. I am not sure where you want to go with this question... Are you telling me he's scum who forgot that town has to scumhunt?
reverse the alignments and it's still nonsensical
so it's basically null.
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While the mudslinging is fairly hilarious, it's not too useful right now, unless someone thinks they're getting an awesome scumread out of it.
Matron marv at your service.
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On December 15 2012 01:14 Palmar wrote: Right we need to talk about this tunkeg thing. I finally read his filter, and to be perfectly honest, I don't see myself getting behind a lynch on him. Can someone tell me what are the pillars of the case against him?
Why don't you just read what I wrote? :/
Counterquestion for you: Is Vivax only in your shit-list because of how he attacked the Adam case? Is Tunkeg not in your shit-list because he didn't?
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Your first quote about the thrawn thing: especially at that stage of the thread it was really easy to 'look good' with the approach to thrawn. I'd already basically dismissed the thrawn issue and if my memory serves, so had you. What you point out just seems so... default.
The second quote is just him being pissy. Taking on Clarity at that point would have been completely anti-productive from either a town or a scum perspective.
Why are you seeing town in these??
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On December 15 2012 01:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 01:31 marvellosity wrote: Your first quote about the thrawn thing: especially at that stage of the thread it was really easy to 'look good' with the approach to thrawn. I'd already basically dismissed the thrawn issue and if my memory serves, so had you. What you point out just seems so... default.
The second quote is just him being pissy. Taking on Clarity at that point would have been completely anti-productive from either a town or a scum perspective.
Why are you seeing town in these?? I don't know, they just don't fit how I'd expect scum to play. I'm also guilty of trying to understand what happened there on day 1. What the hell was the scum team doing? Did they try to counterwagon? if so tunkeg's hardly scum. Did they autobus adam? Why did they let adam get killed over tunkeg then? both were scum anyway.
You're not the only one who thought about it. I didn't come to satisfactory conclusions on that exact same question. I speculated that jaybrundage was supposed to be the scum wagon (on a townie) that day but due to inactivity, or inability to push it properly, it fizzled out and ended up on Adam and Tunkeg. Then if Tunkeg is scum, it's obviously best play for him to crucify Adam in his martyr post.
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"crucify... martyr" - hoho! I make myself chuckle.
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Right, Tunkeg didn't push anything until he was forced to martyr-post. At which point he HAD to push Adam regardless. It was in his best interests to do so as both alignments, but it certainly doesn't make me town on him.
Plus I think you're biased in his favour because he said he wanted bugs dead at the time
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This is actually quite irritating because I tihnk we both have good reasons to be pushing our respective targets (djo/tunkeg) but one of us feels more strongly on the other and I don't know how we reconcile it.
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I think it's pretty clear I don't want to lynch BL today, so no worries.
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On December 15 2012 01:56 Clarity_nl wrote: marv how confident are you that Tunkeg will flip red if lynched?
about as confident as I was with Adam pre-vig claim. That's to say, pretty confident, but still slightly worried.
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Hey Tunkeg! Go walk off a cliff and die, you scummy, arrogant, awful little shit.
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Hurray! I finally got an interaction out of Tunkeg. My life is complete
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When Tunkeg gives back to TL Mafia by coaching, co-hosting, or hosting newbie games and putting his time in for other people, then he can talk smack to people like bugs or me. Otherwise he can shut his cakehole.
Anyway I'm going to take a break for an hour or two, I'm still fuming 15 minutes on.
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On December 15 2012 03:15 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 03:08 marvellosity wrote: When Tunkeg gives back to TL Mafia by coaching, co-hosting, or hosting newbie games and putting his time in for other people, then he can talk smack to people like bugs or me. Otherwise he can shut his cakehole.
Anyway I'm going to take a break for an hour or two, I'm still fuming 15 minutes on. I don't give a shit what you do. You are still overrated as fuck, and you are still nothing but a punk ass kid, with a bigger mouth than sense...
Overrated by who? What are you even basing this on?
Are you basing this upon the nominations for most improved newbie, best town play, and best scum play in Mafia 2012 awards?
Or just that I generally get along with people and they respect my opinions?
Am I Palmar, or Foolishness, or syllogism, or sandroba? No. Did I ever claim to be? Does anyone ever say I am? No.
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Tunkeg hates me and has always hated me
he has problems
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