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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 23:03 GMT
#1961
RAWR. For realsies, I'm town.
Fe fi fo fum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 07 2012 23:03 GMT
#1962
shiaopi next
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#1963
Woah. I'm really glad you put in so much effort to turn the tide, austinmcc. I still don't get your Day 2 play but Sandroba dug his own grave by not even trying today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 07 2012 23:08 GMT
#1964
On December 08 2012 08:03 Blazinghand wrote:
shiaopi next

Not LazerMonkey?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 23:09 GMT
#1965
LOL. By the way, I had 2 out of 3 right with my original scumreads (VE, DYH, Dandel). Trust in my intuition
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 23:10 GMT
#1966
On December 08 2012 08:07 Xatalos wrote:
I still don't get your Day 2 play
Yeah...this seems to be a recurring theme.

I'm pretty happy with ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey, although we've got time to discuss and figger this out.

I'm going to be mostly inactive tonight, because I've put in too much time on this today, have to try and not get mislynched in another game, and have most of tomorrow full.

I'll try and poke around some filters from people that I've been considered town but haven't looked at much (just debears) and then the remaining maybes (Xatalos and Keirathi). I don't foresee any of those people being scum, or at the very least they probably won't look scummy enough compared to ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey.

Still in the back of my head is a VE-style SK who has been saving shots, or something like that, but nothing to be done there except solve that once we finish off scum.

For anyone actually interested in diving into ShiaoPi beyond this game, I think WBG had some good comments on him (someone did) in the obs for a game within LVI, LVII, and Liquid City. I think the comments were in LVII (he was blue) and Liquid City (I think he ended up scum? I quit following). Whatever game he was scum in, there was a nice comparison of how he wasn't just INACTIVE that game, but just wasn't even interacting with thread at all. At least that's what I remember, gonna try and get around to finding that tonight.
Fe fi fo fum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 07 2012 23:12 GMT
#1967
that was me as tiutestchaos in liquid city wheb shiaopi was scun
you can tell i am pro at fibsung him out when hr is scum
he is scum

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 07 2012 23:12 GMT
#1968
On December 08 2012 08:10 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 08:07 Xatalos wrote:
I still don't get your Day 2 play
Yeah...this seems to be a recurring theme.

I'm pretty happy with ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey, although we've got time to discuss and figger this out.

I'm going to be mostly inactive tonight, because I've put in too much time on this today, have to try and not get mislynched in another game, and have most of tomorrow full.

I'll try and poke around some filters from people that I've been considered town but haven't looked at much (just debears) and then the remaining maybes (Xatalos and Keirathi). I don't foresee any of those people being scum, or at the very least they probably won't look scummy enough compared to ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey.

Still in the back of my head is a VE-style SK who has been saving shots, or something like that, but nothing to be done there except solve that once we finish off scum.

For anyone actually interested in diving into ShiaoPi beyond this game, I think WBG had some good comments on him (someone did) in the obs for a game within LVI, LVII, and Liquid City. I think the comments were in LVII (he was blue) and Liquid City (I think he ended up scum? I quit following). Whatever game he was scum in, there was a nice comparison of how he wasn't just INACTIVE that game, but just wasn't even interacting with thread at all. At least that's what I remember, gonna try and get around to finding that tonight.

It's fucking dumb that you used the defense "I've been playing townie so I must be town" for yourself, but you said that I had been playing townie and STILL think I have a chance to be scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 23:16 GMT
#1969
On December 08 2012 08:12 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 08:10 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 08:07 Xatalos wrote:
I still don't get your Day 2 play
Yeah...this seems to be a recurring theme.

I'm pretty happy with ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey, although we've got time to discuss and figger this out.

I'm going to be mostly inactive tonight, because I've put in too much time on this today, have to try and not get mislynched in another game, and have most of tomorrow full.

I'll try and poke around some filters from people that I've been considered town but haven't looked at much (just debears) and then the remaining maybes (Xatalos and Keirathi). I don't foresee any of those people being scum, or at the very least they probably won't look scummy enough compared to ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey.

Still in the back of my head is a VE-style SK who has been saving shots, or something like that, but nothing to be done there except solve that once we finish off scum.

For anyone actually interested in diving into ShiaoPi beyond this game, I think WBG had some good comments on him (someone did) in the obs for a game within LVI, LVII, and Liquid City. I think the comments were in LVII (he was blue) and Liquid City (I think he ended up scum? I quit following). Whatever game he was scum in, there was a nice comparison of how he wasn't just INACTIVE that game, but just wasn't even interacting with thread at all. At least that's what I remember, gonna try and get around to finding that tonight.

It's fucking dumb that you used the defense "I've been playing townie so I must be town" for yourself, but you said that I had been playing townie and STILL think I have a chance to be scum.
YES IT IS. I don't care.

I didn't figure out exactly what I wanted to say with that until the end of the day though. The townie stuff from me is in part...I played townie D1 and D3. I didn't D2. I said I was trying to do this thing D2. You may not believe it's a good idea, my plan may have been retarded, but there's a very peculiar shift in my play during the time I say I'm doing something different.

That's the more full explanation. It's not just play townie b/c townie. I should have been playing very townie except the time I was retarded. You've been consistently townie....therefore POSSIBLE SCUM.

MWAHAHAHAHA.

Also, I said I didn't think you were. But of course there's a CHANCE.
Fe fi fo fum.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 07 2012 23:31 GMT
#1970
I told you Sand was scum, BH.

I told you.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 07 2012 23:41 GMT
#1971
you did! you really did. lol well good thing nobody listend to me except you
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 07 2012 23:42 GMT
#1972
really though shiaopi was setting up to look good after an austinmcc flip by "opposing" it and doing nothing to stop it. plus all the other reasons he's scum.

he's so scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 23:51 GMT
#1973
On December 08 2012 08:42 Blazinghand wrote:
really though shiaopi was setting up to look good after an austinmcc flip by "opposing" it and doing nothing to stop it. plus all the other reasons he's scum.

he's so scum.

Are you okay with ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey?

Or do you think someone else be red.
Fe fi fo fum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 08 2012 00:02 GMT
#1974
On December 08 2012 08:42 Blazinghand wrote:
really though shiaopi was setting up to look good after an austinmcc flip by "opposing" it and doing nothing to stop it. plus all the other reasons he's scum.

he's so scum.

I actually think LazerMonkey looks way worse than ShiaoPi right now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:04 GMT
#1975
I actually started this post with "I'm reconsidering if ShiaoPi is Mafia", since Sandroba seemed more than happy to lynch him even when there were other options available earlier, but... Just look at ShiaoPi. He's been totally unimpactful and useless during this game. Even his defense of austinmcc was extremely lackluster, more like a show than an actual effort to save him. And in all likeliness it WAS just a show to look better after austinmcc's flip. The other explanation is that ShiaoPi is playing anti-town and not really caring if his scumreads or townreads get lynched (whichever is fine with me, but I totally care about town!).

The other remaining scummy player is Lazermonkey (I guess there have to be 4 Mafia considering we have tons of blue roles as well). Here he says he'll have lots of time today:

On December 07 2012 06:20 Lazermonkey wrote:
Btw, I'm going to bed now. Will have alot of time tomorrow.


What does he do today? Basically.... nothing at all. He could have as well been invisible. He did make some posts, but nothing to make even the slightest difference concerning the lynch. This is not how town caring about the lynch plays. This is how Mafia caring only about himself plays.

To sum up the situation, we have:

Practically confirmed townies
BlazingHand
MrZentor
Keirathi

Very likely townies based on activity and effort (and other things)
austinmcc
debears

Likely Mafia
ShiaoPi
Lazermonkey

From the looks of it, this game is pretty much over already. We can almost certainly still afford 1/2 mislynches, but if ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey are both Mafia (which almost must be the case, unless there's only one Mafia left), we should win even if we couldn't afford any more mislynches. I'm pretty certain that we have 4 Mafia, or this setup would be just too unfair for Mafia. Even then, this is feeling a bit too easy, and the setup is called "paranoia", so I'm a bit paranoid. Maybe there's some dangerous third role? Or maybe the Mafia have still some ace up their sleeves?

Who knows. But the important question now is, should we lynch ShiaoPi or Lazermonkey first. Whichever is fine with me, although I think I'd prefer ShiaoPi. Opinions?

austinmcc, I think you should definitely watch Keirathi or BlazingHand (*maybe* MrZentor...). I'm pretty sure that one of them will be hit tonight. Or maybe you'll get killed, but there isn't really anything you could do about that. I think it's almost impossible that I or debears would be killed, considering that we're the only realistic mislynch options left at this point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:07 GMT
#1976
On December 08 2012 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
you did! you really did. lol well good thing nobody listend to me except you


Yeah, it's all your fault that we almost mislynched! Lesson learned: don't listen to BlazingHand
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:07 GMT
#1977
On December 08 2012 09:02 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 08:42 Blazinghand wrote:
really though shiaopi was setting up to look good after an austinmcc flip by "opposing" it and doing nothing to stop it. plus all the other reasons he's scum.

he's so scum.

I actually think LazerMonkey looks way worse than ShiaoPi right now.


Why so?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:13 GMT
#1978
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 08 2012 00:18 GMT
#1979
On December 08 2012 09:07 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
you did! you really did. lol well good thing nobody listend to me except you


Yeah, it's all your fault that we almost mislynched! Lesson learned: don't listen to BlazingHand


I might be wrong but eventually i'm always right. given how wrong i've been this game it's basically 100% chance i'm right now: so the lesson is listen to blazinghand
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 08 2012 00:41 GMT
#1980
We should definitely lynch shiaopi.

His hard defense of austin was no way a natural feeling. Way forced
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