Paranoia Mafia - Page 4

On December 01 2012 11:41 Ace wrote:
Between VE, marv and that useless spambot BH something is off. I highly doubt all 3 are town and wouldn't be surprised if 2 of them were Scum or anti-town.

At first I was reading and concentrating on the debears-ShaoiPi-DYH interaction but Blazinghand showed up and derailed it all.

I was going to call him out for that terrible case on MrZ but he reneged on it, only to bring up a few more terrible cases on various people in the same format with no real effort to convince people on any of them.

On December 01 2012 11:48 Ace wrote:
There's nothing wrong with it.

On December 01 2012 11:54 Ace wrote:


and so what? If that's your major conclusion from Day 1 so far you're reading skills need improvement.

On December 01 2012 11:54 Ace wrote:


and so what? If that's your major conclusion from Day 1 so far you're reading skills need improvement.

On December 01 2012 12:14 Ace wrote:
Keep watching then. I don't know why you think I would be providing analysis of WBG looking town because that would be dumb but ok.

On December 01 2012 12:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Debears. Why are you being so much less active than usual?

On December 01 2012 15:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
of note: marvellosity thinks I've "contradicted" myself when I've said that I'm okay with killing Xatalos, but I have doubts about him being scum. Xatalos is hard to read. That's my opinion. There is no contradiction here at all, and anyone who has come to the conclusion that there is somehow a contradiction there needs to learn basic reading comprehension.

Compare it to what I could do here (and note that it would be exactly what marv said about what I am saying)



Let's do some marv-level translation:

marv: this is scummy as fuck but I'm going to keep my vote on the guy I'm currently on because I say he's scummier.

How the fuck is that different from saying that I find someone currently on the lynch list scummy, but I'd rather pressure someone else who I don't have the same doubts about?

On December 01 2012 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:


I understand why Ace voted you now. rofl.

If anyone else is curious, go check out marvellosity's filter. If he's town, he's doig a pretty shitty job of keeping the thread coherent.

On December 01 2012 04:14 debears wrote:
shiaopi - I don't like these two posts together





So he makes a statement "why are you trying to stop me", which to me gives off the feeling that he believes lazer is scum. Then, in the next post he does a 180, and disengages "have fun tunneling further", which to me gives off the feel that he finds lazer townie.

If he believed lazer was possibly scum trying to stop questioning, he would keep pursuing it. If he thought not, then he would disengage.

I just don't see how he went from post 1 to post 2 in 50 minutes

On December 01 2012 15:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's always amusing when on day 1, every time I roll town, I get the same shit for the same stupid reasons. There is a pattern to how I play town: I don't say anything useful for almost all of day 1 because on day 1 I like to observe. That's why my opening votes are usually intended to create reactions, and while they almost always are intentional and on pseudo-scum reads when I post them, my day 1 reads usually change very very quickly.

It's also amusing that every time I roll scum no one calls me scum and then I get shot by some faggot 3rd party or a vigi who is scared of my scum play.

On July 17 2012 12:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Time for questions, most important first.

VE, this question is important:

Do you have a block power, or were you faking it?

Katina, what do you think of both hiropro and VE?

Foolishness and Katina: thoughts on each other, please.

Answers to questions addressed to me that I am willing to answer now:



no to both questions. It was partly why I considered syllo to be scummy. (also his push on Probulous seemed reactionary to the pressure he was receiving in thread, mostly from Foolishness)



I was asked why I preferred layabout even though I found syllo scummy. I preferred giving a full answer as opposed to a half answer, because I know a lot of people want to lynch syllo today and not many seem to be interested in killing layabout.

It may not be an answer that people understand nor even agree with, but that's fine by me. It's my reason for wanting to keep him alive if only temporarily.

At any rate right now I'm completely fine with a multitude of players dying. We can't kill them all but I will be pushing those who I think are most likely to flip scum. If that likelihood changes then so will my vote. If it's clear I can't get my #1 target lynched then I will gladly switch to the scummiest target that has the best chance of dying.

for the record, my scumreads in order from strongest to weakest right now are:


Blazinghand
layabout
Meapak_Ziphh
syllogism

I've omitted Kurumi since he's basically dead.

On December 02 2012 00:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Debears: I think he is "tunneling" since is not readng my responses properly but just nitpicks them for the parts he wants to read. Either he is scummy by purposely misreading (what i was implying in the first post you quote) or he tunnels by virtue of actually believing his stuff which I categorize as townietrait.
So I was nullish on him and unsure at the time of those quotes. At the moment lazer is slightly leaning town to me. Especially the way he responded to DP feels townie (even if kind of stupid).

@Zentor: mind commenting on other things beside DYH? I'll take a look at him now.

On December 02 2012 00:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
I looked over DYH's filter and to be honest I think BH to be scummier. Ther are a couple of things that strike me as suspicious, the whole ace is dangerous and xata is noob thing but I also agree with the questions he had for BH. So I want to see some repsonses fom BH right now, unfortunately he seems to be absent...

On December 02 2012 00:53 Ace wrote:
man half of you guys are utter shit at this game. Stop fucking going back to past games and read what the fuck you see HERE. You're shitting up the thread with shit that doesn't even matter.

On December 02 2012 01:00 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bugs is hard to read regardless of alignment (imho).
I dont like him calling out lazer for doing the same thing as he is. But lynching bugs off for that in d1? I would say that it is unwise. I have by no means a sure townread on him but I would prefer to see him in d2 as that is more indicative of his play. We can lynch him in d2 if he continues like this.

On December 02 2012 01:04 Ace wrote:
Seriously amazed that you've read this thread and that is the direction you've chosen to go. Unfucking real.

On December 02 2012 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
gonna unvote bugs for now, his explanation seems kinda plausible.

##unvote

DP seems to be needlessly aggressive. I don't like that at all.

On December 02 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
HOW WAS MY VOTE OPPORTUNISTIC?! I PROVIDED REASONING THAT WAS NOT ONLY ORIGINAL BUT SOUND!

##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos

Enough is enough. Xatalos is either scum hiding inside a tunnel or really really bad town. Considering the way he posts, I'm ruling out town.

On December 02 2012 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You repeatedly drawing attention to yourself (i.e. asking Zealos why he thinks you're town, interacting with Ace after he'd mentioned he was watching you, etc) has bumped you up to null leaning scummy for me. My vote isn't on you because presently I find Xatalos to be scummier. He even admits that I'm not scummy, he's "suspicious" based on one vote at the beginning of the day and is discounting EVERYTHING I've posted since, simply dismissing it as "meaningless fluff". While I admit to a fair amount of fluff (the marv/Bugs/BH stuff a while ago) I have a fair amount of content as well, regarding you, regarding BH and Bugs, regarding Ace. None of this is fluff, it's ALL designed to help town find scum.

And instead of posting about my other suspicions as I wanted to do, now I'm forced to ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT WHY I'M NOT FUCKING VOTING FOR YOU!