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On November 24 2012 07:07 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:59 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 24 2012 06:46 TheChronicler wrote:On November 24 2012 06:43 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 24 2012 06:40 TheChronicler wrote:On November 24 2012 06:24 Keirathi wrote:On November 24 2012 06:21 TheChronicler wrote:On November 24 2012 06:19 Keirathi wrote:On November 24 2012 06:17 TheChronicler wrote:
I still like a Sandro lynch. My problem eith him is that I think he knows too much. He's also got the most people consolidated on him. How the fuck does that make him scum? It doesn't? Why read into it like that? You were giving reasons for why you wanted to lynch him. Our goal is to lynch scum. Therefore the bolded part of your post is completely, 100% irrelevant. So why did you even say it? No, I was giving reasons for a Sandro lynch. There's a difference there. It went 1) reason I think he's scum 2) reason I think he's still a good lynch candidate you mean you'd lynch for reasons OTHER than being scum? ##Vote: TheChroniclerp.s. I've been skimming the thread, Chronicler is very scummy looking, I'll be back in 5ish hours to, you know, actually play the game instead of sitting by the sidelines. You don't take other people's opinion into account when choosing who to lynch? This is really flimsy reasoning for voting me. You're suggesting that the scummiest player is the one with the most votes. That's ludicrous and is a terrible way to determine who you want to lynch. I don't think it's an unfair suggestion to say that the person with the most votes is the one who is currently thought of as most scummy. I didn't say he's scum because he has votes. I said he was a good candidate because a lot of people find him scummy and you can therefor lynch him. If your problem is that a Sandro lynch seems too easy then you need to say that. Right now you're misrepresenting what I'm saying and I have to wonder why.
My problem with sandro's lynch is that I don't think he is scum. My problem with your reasoning to lynch him is that they aren't centered around him being scum.
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I still don't know if I buy this though. Seems like he used more than 1 ability last night.
These abilities are from the original invoker from the Warcraft Dota. Super old, and quite frankly its retarded that draz fails to explain this better.
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I'm ignoring it until someone flips or CJ tells us something concrete. I'm just trying to keep people from getting to caught up on the 'hes making all this shit up' train of thought. He presumably knows what the abilities he named do. I can make a guess as to how to convert them to mafia mechanics but its not particularly helpful.
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On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
incidentally this is why I was fairly believing of kita earlier, because he claimed his shot on Drazerk only did half damage.
Obviously these actions were nothing to do with me, but the 50% resonated with my role. interesting. So I am the only RBing role in the game. Or the only one activated n1. I assume some people have multiple abilities and not all would necessarily use the rb, where is the glory in that? Marv, if you are a 600 character why didn't you try harder to get in the team d1? Didn't you feel that since your ability got a bonus your hidden modifier would too? Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote:^_^ I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_- Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence. On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote:On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1? + Show Spoiler +sorry about my play sensei, I will do better I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players). So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected. the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through. Draz: why are you thanking me for my ability? What did it do benefit you?
I'm reading that as draz thinks you protected him with it.
##Vote: Syllogism
Until he tells us not to.
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On November 25 2012 10:05 GreYMisT wrote:10
wtf just happened. Does anyone have any idea?
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Time until Lavos eats us all it is. I've got nothing else to go by...
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On November 25 2012 10:32 TheChronicler wrote:
200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different.
Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.
That seems very straightforward. Duly noted.
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On November 25 2012 10:33 TheChronicler wrote:
Ebwop: that was my n1, btw. Not last night.
So you knew that both lynch targets were the same alignment the whole day...That's actually huge news. Lots of reading to do now.
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On November 25 2012 10:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Chronicler.
Hmm is there a scum reason for doing this?
YES THERE IS. Toad was under pressure last cycle, chronicler was also under pressure. So fake a 'dt' check and BAM TOAD IS SCUM
1 for 1 trades heavily favor town.
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On November 23 2012 14:05 syllogism wrote:
I took 50 damage.
I'm going back to bed, but very briefly him suggesting that his modifier is likely low was something that probably makes people less likely pick him. He also pointed out the fact that if parties are announced in public, mafia has easier time choosing who to support and that was a pretty towny observation and something that occurred to me as well. In addition he wasn't afraid of asking me and sandro whether we thought he was suspicious.
@Prom
Syllo took damage, but you managed to catch sand with a roleblock. He freely admits it, but later it seems you weren't sure. Were you bluffing him out when you said you knew he targeted syllo?
Either way, if you're telling the truth it means that syllo was hit by a multi-target ability or he was hit by recoil from his own abilities, because you would have protected him form anything else.
If someone is able to account for the 50 damage on Syllo in such a way that it proves Prom is lying about his roleblock ability, Prom is not town. I don't think that is the case, I just want to make that apparent to anyone that knows more than I do. Unless someone chimes in, I currently have a town read on Prom for trying to protect the successful party leader.
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we had robo and frog on the first event lololol
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On November 25 2012 11:11 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 10:44 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 23 2012 14:05 syllogism wrote:
I took 50 damage.
I'm going back to bed, but very briefly him suggesting that his modifier is likely low was something that probably makes people less likely pick him. He also pointed out the fact that if parties are announced in public, mafia has easier time choosing who to support and that was a pretty towny observation and something that occurred to me as well. In addition he wasn't afraid of asking me and sandro whether we thought he was suspicious. @PromSyllo took damage, but you managed to catch sand with a roleblock. He freely admits it, but later it seems you weren't sure. Were you bluffing him out when you said you knew he targeted syllo? Either way, if you're telling the truth it means that syllo was hit by a multi-target ability or he was hit by recoil from his own abilities, because you would have protected him form anything else. If someone is able to account for the 50 damage on Syllo in such a way that it proves Prom is lying about his roleblock ability, Prom is not town. I don't think that is the case, I just want to make that apparent to anyone that knows more than I do. Unless someone chimes in, I currently have a town read on Prom for trying to protect the successful party leader. Yeah I was bluffing but I thought it was a safe bet. There were only two roleblocks and it seemed inconceivable that no one targeted the leader of the town party besides me. So I took a gamble, i knew my credibility was pretty low but I knew my role could make or break this lynch (theoretically) so I challenged Sand on it. I was pretty shocked about the damage which Syllo claimed (I thought I would block it all and that mafia would have individual abilities and NOT factional kp but this is false, mafia has kp!) and I assumed that it was Mafia KP (another reason which I didn't state earlier that i thought he was Town in the 'one of Sand/Syllo is scum' argument). I looked at my pm again in writing this to confirm my abilities, it only roleblocks players so I imagine that factional kp is not blocked. What is so hard to understand? Syllo got BUSSED. All the abilities that targeted him, targeted someone else instead and everything that targeted that someone else targeted Syllo. Scum shoots flying-under-the-radar-town. Sandro busses all damage from that townie onto Syllo and all the protection (just Marv) on Syllo onto the flying-under-the-radar-town.
Which is a great theory and all, but
On November 23 2012 21:51 sandroba wrote:
Oh my it seems I'm the only person in the game that doesn't get to have a real life every so often. I spent the night at a girl's house ytd and only got home now. I thought I would give the thread a quick read before heading to bed (yes my sleep schedule is severely fucked up) and I see that suddenly I became the main wagon. Nice. Weekend is ahead and it will be extremelly busy and now I have to fight syllo induced mislynch just to prob face the same problem again the next day. Thx. I'll be here briefily if anyone want to interact, but I'm heading to bed.
I took 125 dmg and got roleblocked.
Syllo's damage came from somewhere else. At the very least, sand was unable to busdriver syllo.
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##Unvote: Syllogism (ineligible)
##Vote: Oatsmaster
We'll see about the final party, but I see no reason to distrust his claim.
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Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern
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On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying.
Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true.
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I'm more just prickly that Acro feels the need to straight up insult me with no further reasoning than he's lying. I haven't actually made up my mind about who I believe yet.
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@Z-Bo's Case
I assure you, I am not filthy filthy scum, but let's face it, you're not going to take my word for it. You'll learn I'm very lazy and/or terrible at this game, so that portion of your case shouldn't hold much weight.
However, I have definitely shown mafia motivation in my dealing with sandroba and I would not be upset in the slightest were I to be lynched, aside from the (currently unknown) fact that I am town. I don't know that I can really defend myself, but if you are interested in why I did something or how I came to a particular conclusion, please ask me and I'll answer it directly.
Catching up from where I left off...
On November 25 2012 20:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Diensore voted for me <3
but seriously, we still have 36 hours, I say we pressure the lurkers into doing stuff.
VE Is your silence role related?
Hopeless, where did you go?
risk.nuke, what do you think about voting for me/dieno?
I went to bed, just woke up. I'll start putting that in the thread when I'm not paying attention to the game anymore.
On November 25 2012 17:55 Dienosore wrote:Also, look who I just caught with his vote still on Toad  Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern
Find the corresponding post in thread, that was (kind of) a joke. On the off chance that Toad is telling the truth, I will have saved him from lots of damage. He's also suggested that my voting him to begin with will have prevented the damage (because Toad had NO votes at the end of cycle 1, but wasn't destroyed). There is no longer any reason to be voting for Toad today, and if that wasn't already abundantly clear,
On November 25 2012 13:20 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:17 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.
Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3 So... you took 500 damage D1 then? nope. someone voted me. On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle... Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability. Secondly, you still have yet to explain this: On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy. I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched. Zzzz, I'm tired of your lies. I have a 1-shot role+alignment check. Used it on you last night. You're Queen Zeal
Man...Fuck you Acro, its not fair to call me an idiot when you ROLE+ALIGNMENTCOP a player.
##Unvote: Toadesstern
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Robo for president
Need to find food, back in a bit.
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On November 26 2012 01:38 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:36 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:22 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored. I think it's because you are not active enough I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you. It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit. Well, I would not vote for the following reasons - The waiting game you have played yesterday with your vote on Sandro, nice way for not contributing during a lynch day
- The way you answered kitaman suspicions towards you ("scummy post from a scummy player")
- The fact that you are not active enough, I expect a party leader to have some leadership
- The fact that you take syllo and TheChronicler in your team. Dieno and Oats is better than syllo and Oats. TheChronicler is meh....
I have been active and don't get into sementics, would you had approved if I had said. I'm not going to take my vote of the scummiest player just because he's avoiding the thread. Kitaman had done squat all game which is more then enough to justify the title of scummy behaviour when he showed up with a pisspoor case against me. As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims? And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him. Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him. @risk.nukeYou have not been as active as marv for example. I would have liked if you have participated more in the scum hunt during D2. Toad was not so difficult to find for example... (Correct me if I'm wrong but I assumed that you were familiar Toad here) Ok, fair enough. Ok, that's speculating. I have more faith in a town Dieno than in a town syllo, and that's all what matters for me. Anyway, if we present 4 town members, the event is going to succeed for sure I guess. Easy enough imho... What do you mean by "better" ? I'm only caring about the fact that they are more confirmed town. TheChronicler could have bussed Toad with a fake cope claim. The only thing that indicates a town TheChronicler is this copeclaim...
you think acro faked his copclaim as well?
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On November 26 2012 02:05 risk.nuke wrote:
Toad did not seem nailed as scum to me. I'll reread Acros actions after Cycle2.
That doesn't sound like your super convinced toad is scum =\
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On November 26 2012 04:11 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 04:05 Dienosore wrote:On November 26 2012 03:56 Keirathi wrote:On November 26 2012 03:55 TheChronicler wrote:
I don't. Was kind of hoping someone had the ability to give ne gold or it was an event reward. Another reason I want on the team. So your ability costs gold. But you haven't gained any gold, nor do you know how to, but you got to use it? :o I'm confused. There is this: On November 20 2012 05:17 Mementoss wrote:
Because me and GreYMist are such nice hosts, we gave each and every one of you 200 G to explore the fair, mingle with friends, and play the games!
A nice quote, but not relevant to me. I didn't start with 200.
We're you given a "you have x total gold" or "you have received x amount of gold"? The latter suggests we can give you gold.
On November 26 2012 03:36 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 03:30 Keirathi wrote:On November 26 2012 03:27 risk.nuke wrote:
You made no argument, you simply rephrased what I said as an evil plot to exclude you from the party. We have no ideas how easy/hard it is to win a mission. Right now the general assumption is just that if one party member is mafia the party fails. But that doesn't make sense because then HMS would be useless. No it's not useless. For instance, I think the probable scenario is something like this: Normal Townies: 100 HMS High HMS Townies: 250 HMS Low HMS Townies: 40 HMS Normal Mafia: -300 HMS When the mission starts, if the total HMS value of the group is > 0, the event is successful. (These are obviously just made up numbers. Just an example for context.) Even if I believed a system like that likely the problem is those numbers are values. And values are not Modifiers. Thus we would had been told each player have a hidden/unknown success value.
Gotta read the setup you guys...
On November 19 2012 09:43 GreYMisT wrote:
Setup Information
Events
The Party leader will choose 3 additional members (including himself) for a total of 4 party members. This party members will attempt to complete the event that the town is faced with. Each character in the game is assigned a hidden number value that will help determine if the event is a success or failure. Town players will assist completion of an event and mafia players will count against. There are other hidden factors that contribute to this as well. Failure to complete events will result in bad. Failure and success of Events may result in changing the timeline of the game.
- Each player has a HIDDEN NUMBER VALUE (not a modifier)
- There are other HIDDEN FACTORS that contribute to this as well
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