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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 04:20 GMT
#1088
@kita
On November 22 2012 02:39 Dienosore wrote:
I'm not trying to accuse anyone with this post or anything, but are you guys even considering that sand may be aware of your meta reads on him and is playing as if he were towny to throw you all off?

Just seems strange so many people are blindly believing him to be towny based on past games

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 16:21 GMT
#1305
On November 23 2012 01:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:06 Dienosore wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why do you have the Scum? by my name, yet I don't appear in your scumreads based on this?


If you'll look closely, it says Scum? not Scum. I'm not going to flat out accuse anyone who I'm not entirely sure of. But know my eye is on you, Acro.

Oh and I know you have some secret relation with CaveJohnson.

Dude, that's way cool, you found out! CaveJohnson is secretly my daddy. He's not very nice, though, he only gives me lemons to play with. I wish my mommy was here.

In all seriousness. Based on what do I have this secret connection. I seem to be missing CaveJohnson's name in all the squiggly lines flying all over the place.

And yes, I am trying to take this seriously, but having a really hard time of it. You sure you're not BillMurray smurfing?

I'm treating that picture like his campaign poster. Honestly, the only thing in dieno's filter that I cared about was:
On November 22 2012 08:00 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 07:47 Acrofales wrote:
As I was on the way to the supermarket, I thought of something that might be worth considering. I know this is a greymist game and aperture mafia was hardly about aperture at all, but I, at least, am not the goddamned batman or any kind of planar dragon, so from my point of view the theme is more serious this time around.

If you agree that the theme could be serious, consider that the first mission in Chrono Trigger is also in a church. The playable characters are Crono, Lucca and Frog. Of these, I feel Frog is the most important, lorewise, in this mission. I don't think an outright claim is in order, but it might be worth considering, if you're one of these chars, in particular Frog, and running for the campaign, to make a more serious go at becoming the party leader.

Frog, of all the characters, seems like he would wield the most influence in favour of town in the first mission of Chrono Trigger, assuming lore is an important aspect of this game.


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Him claiming toad but not really claiming toad. Turns out he claimed toad
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 16:36 GMT
#1313
On November 23 2012 01:25 Dienosore wrote:
Are you mad that you aren't even on my map, Hopeless?

No, its just a really silly thing to do and I'm choosing to ignore it.

On November 23 2012 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
I just wanna be party leader, ok? It's not something that I had to explain to myself in my head so explaining it in text is meh.

Assuming you cannot take any of the other candidates (kita, sand, syllo) with you, what's your party?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#1361
On November 23 2012 02:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Poor viscera. Another note, I don't think grey would modkill kush unless marv was town.

Kush killed himself, how does that affect marv's alignment in any way?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#1362
ehh ninja'd
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 17:41 GMT
#1366
On November 22 2012 04:20 Mementoss wrote:
Important Host Note:


Please if you feel that you have any chance of being elected party leader include the (3) party members to take along with you with your PM for the night actions. Even if you don't think you will be elected, you can include it cause, you never know. If the party leader doesn't chose (3) party members the party leader will take some punishment regardless of success or failure. The (3) party members will be chosen at random in this case.

This allows the party to be chosen for the elected party leader, even if they are not available at the time the hosts need the party members.

Reminder: This game follows a 47 hour combined day/night cycle with 1 hour no posting action resolution period.


Is there an official night period or does Cycle 2 start at 17:00 MST?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#1402
On November 22 2012 05:49 Keirathi wrote:
I don't know "My 'success modifier' is 3." But I do know that I have a low success modifier.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 18:06 GMT
#1409
Keir, I won't demand an answer here, but do you know anything about your modifier itself or just that you'll inadvertently sabotage events?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 18:09 GMT
#1414
Sick bait, CJ
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 18:15 GMT
#1422
Do you mean nothing is true in the OP or that draz is lying?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:03 GMT
#1459
On November 23 2012 03:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 03:46 Keirathi wrote:
Hapa, I already explained why a candidate keeping his party hidden was a good idea.


Yeah I saw that Kei, and I think it's really really stupid. Being scared of a possible D1 mafia manipulation isn't a good reason to sheep blindly on a player.

It's like wanting to no-lynch on D1 in a normal game because there's a supposed "low chance of hitting scum." You lynch D1 anyway because of the amount of information we gain from the votecounts. Syllo is proposing an "optimal" strategy that completely neuters the amount of information we'll gain from the voting.

This is fucking retarded.

I disagree that it completely neuters the information, and I'm moving my vote to syllo.

This is completely different from a no-lynch, as you must be aware. We get to know his party. If his party fails, he will explain his reads. If they succeed, then blind faith successful, town wins the event. I respect that you want his reads upfront and feel it would make for a more informed choice of elected leader, but it is Day 1 after all, and while I think you are town Hapa, I like the plan that syllo and djo have put forth about withholding information from the scumteam to prevent harm to our possible success.

It is my opinion that this game is more heavily geared towards winning the theme than winning the mafia game, and that means succeeding at events. I think syllo is just as capable as you at picking townreads, and just as likely to be town as you are. This means that from a party leader perspective, syllo provides a better chance at succeeding in the event than you currently do.

##Unvote: sandroba
##Vote: syllogism

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:07 GMT
#1465
On November 23 2012 04:02 Acrofales wrote:
BioSC: are you playing this game, or you trying to get vig shot for lurking again?

Hopeless1der: where are you? You have lots of posts in your filter, but they are all 1-liners. I have NO clue what you're thinking about anything actually pertinent to this game. You have corrected people's logic and asked some questions. That seems to be about it. I can't even find your vote or ANY indication of who you might vote for. Last time you lurked you were obvious scum. You taking the same approach?

I was voting for sandroba as a sheeple. You'll see I've just voted for syllo, and I hope that explanation is sufficient. As to my lurking...I have a lurker meta, and a terrible mafia record (check my profile, games are linked for your viewing pleasure).
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#1467
Yes, 4 hours to deadline
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#1473
On November 23 2012 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:46 Keirathi wrote:
Hapa, I already explained why a candidate keeping his party hidden was a good idea.


Yeah I saw that Kei, and I think it's really really stupid. Being scared of a possible D1 mafia manipulation isn't a good reason to sheep blindly on a player.

It's like wanting to no-lynch on D1 in a normal game because there's a supposed "low chance of hitting scum." You lynch D1 anyway because of the amount of information we gain from the votecounts. Syllo is proposing an "optimal" strategy that completely neuters the amount of information we'll gain from the voting.

This is fucking retarded.

I disagree that it completely neuters the information, and I'm moving my vote to syllo.

This is completely different from a no-lynch, as you must be aware. We get to know his party. If his party fails, he will explain his reads. If they succeed, then blind faith successful, town wins the event. I respect that you want his reads upfront and feel it would make for a more informed choice of elected leader, but it is Day 1 after all, and while I think you are town Hapa, I like the plan that syllo and djo have put forth about withholding information from the scumteam to prevent harm to our possible success.

It is my opinion that this game is more heavily geared towards winning the theme than winning the mafia game, and that means succeeding at events. I think syllo is just as capable as you at picking townreads, and just as likely to be town as you are. This means that from a party leader perspective, syllo provides a better chance at succeeding in the event than you currently do.

##Unvote: sandroba
##Vote: syllogism



This is so fucking retarded. Like you've got to be kidding me. It's amazing that players are thinking like this and are a-ok with Syllo's "system" in complete blind faith.

This "voting" isn't just about determining Syllo's allignment - it's about seeing who votes for who. This gives a bunch of players to herp-derp and vote syllo (just like you're doing) with zero rationale. We want to be able to draw lines between votes and reads. I want to know who thinks who is town, and the parties that players are supporting. THAT"s the information we value here!

Because if we fail this mission, we're not going to know jack shit. Syllo explaining his choices after the fact is completely worthless, and this gives a perfect veil for mafia to hide under without making any reads.


A failed mission would be terrible, but it gives us information and if you refuse to acknowledge that, then you're "fucking retarded". I think mission success is of paramount importance and that syllo is the best horse to back in order to achieve that. The voting doesn't determine syllo's alignment, it says we all think he's town and a good candidate. If you believe syllo is not town, I'd love to hear about it, but for reasons other than "he won't tell me who is on his team".
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:23 GMT
#1479
On November 23 2012 04:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:46 Keirathi wrote:
Hapa, I already explained why a candidate keeping his party hidden was a good idea.


Yeah I saw that Kei, and I think it's really really stupid. Being scared of a possible D1 mafia manipulation isn't a good reason to sheep blindly on a player.

It's like wanting to no-lynch on D1 in a normal game because there's a supposed "low chance of hitting scum." You lynch D1 anyway because of the amount of information we gain from the votecounts. Syllo is proposing an "optimal" strategy that completely neuters the amount of information we'll gain from the voting.

This is fucking retarded.

I disagree that it completely neuters the information, and I'm moving my vote to syllo.

This is completely different from a no-lynch, as you must be aware. We get to know his party. If his party fails, he will explain his reads. If they succeed, then blind faith successful, town wins the event. I respect that you want his reads upfront and feel it would make for a more informed choice of elected leader, but it is Day 1 after all, and while I think you are town Hapa, I like the plan that syllo and djo have put forth about withholding information from the scumteam to prevent harm to our possible success.

It is my opinion that this game is more heavily geared towards winning the theme than winning the mafia game, and that means succeeding at events. I think syllo is just as capable as you at picking townreads, and just as likely to be town as you are. This means that from a party leader perspective, syllo provides a better chance at succeeding in the event than you currently do.

##Unvote: sandroba
##Vote: syllogism



This is so fucking retarded. Like you've got to be kidding me. It's amazing that players are thinking like this and are a-ok with Syllo's "system" in complete blind faith.

This "voting" isn't just about determining Syllo's allignment - it's about seeing who votes for who. This gives a bunch of players to herp-derp and vote syllo (just like you're doing) with zero rationale. We want to be able to draw lines between votes and reads. I want to know who thinks who is town, and the parties that players are supporting. THAT"s the information we value here!

Because if we fail this mission, we're not going to know jack shit. Syllo explaining his choices after the fact is completely worthless, and this gives a perfect veil for mafia to hide under without making any reads.


A failed mission would be terrible, but it gives us information and if you refuse to acknowledge that, then you're "fucking retarded". I think mission success is of paramount importance and that syllo is the best horse to back in order to achieve that. The voting doesn't determine syllo's alignment, it says we all think he's town and a good candidate. If you believe syllo is not town, I'd love to hear about it, but for reasons other than "he won't tell me who is on his team".


It gives us LESS information. All we will know is that Syllo is wrong. We won't know anything else, because everyone sheeped on syllo based on a misguided notion of trust rather than making any reads.

I agree, it gives less information, but I want to succeed at the events more than I want to find mafia right now. There are so many unknowns in this game, and I'm playing a hunch that the theme is more important than people are giving credit for.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:25 GMT
#1483
MAFIA MIGHT BE ABLE TO KILL/ALTER THE SUCCESS IF THEY KNOW THE PARTY MEMBERS

HERPA FUCKING DERP
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:26 GMT
#1486
Jeezus Hapa, how is that difficult to understand? Do you think syllo was withholding his party list for shits and giggles?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:29 GMT
#1488
On November 23 2012 04:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
MAFIA MIGHT BE ABLE TO KILL/ALTER THE SUCCESS IF THEY KNOW THE PARTY MEMBERS

HERPA FUCKING DERP


YEAH THAT TOTALLY MAKES FUCKING SENSE WHEN SYLLO IS THE UNDISPUTED VOTE LEADER.

You think mafia are going to kill party members if they know them?
How do you know mafia have the power to do this during the Day?

On November 23 2012 02:48 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 02:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2012 04:20 Mementoss wrote:
Important Host Note:


Please if you feel that you have any chance of being elected party leader include the (3) party members to take along with you with your PM for the night actions. Even if you don't think you will be elected, you can include it cause, you never know. If the party leader doesn't chose (3) party members the party leader will take some punishment regardless of success or failure. The (3) party members will be chosen at random in this case.

This allows the party to be chosen for the elected party leader, even if they are not available at the time the hosts need the party members.

Reminder: This game follows a 47 hour combined day/night cycle with 1 hour no posting action resolution period.


Is there an official night period or does Cycle 2 start at 17:00 MST?


The night period for all intents and purposes will be that 1hour resolution period. cycle 2 will begin at 00:00 GMT (+00:00)

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#1500
On November 23 2012 04:34 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
MAFIA MIGHT BE ABLE TO KILL/ALTER THE SUCCESS IF THEY KNOW THE PARTY MEMBERS

HERPA FUCKING DERP

Night actions are resolved AFTER the mission. Mementos already stated that. Herpa fucking derp yourself.

On November 23 2012 02:17 GreYMisT wrote:
GreYMisT curse. Reposting on this page.




Kushm4sta (Cyrus) Has both died in humiliation and has been MODKILLED

+ Show Spoiler [reasons] +
Realizing you have RL issues is one thing, but just saying "well im not going to have time" or "I feel sick" and then blowing your 1 shot ability becasue why not WHEN I HAVE 4 REPLACEMENTS WAITING TO /IN is simply unacceptable.

Thus Kushm4sta will be banned from all games of mine in the future and I will seek ban list action against him after the conclusion of this game.


+ Show Spoiler [Role Pm] +
Welcome To Chrono Trigger Mafia! You are Cyrus. You are a loyal knight and a hero of 600 AD, sworn to do whatever it takes to defend your king and queen. At any point, once per game, you may choose to unleash your finishing move, Nirvana Strike. You may activate this by typing ##Nirvana Strike: Player Name in the thread. At this point, no passive or active abilities or states will affect you or your target. If your target has a lower % of health than you do, you will kill the target instantly. If you are tied or have a lower % health, you will be humiliated and die. You also have a 1 shot passive self protection ability. If you are about to die the most damaging ability that is targeting you will be prevented. If this prevention would save you, you will automatically use Nirvana strike on the source of that damage (this passive will not use your Nirvana strike charge). You have 600 max HP. You win with the town.


Let this serve as a warning to everyone. Don't toy with me.

Never. Trust. GreYMisT.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2012 19:36 GMT
#1501
EBWOP:
It distinctly reads: "At any point, once per game"
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