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On November 25 2012 12:50 Adam4167 wrote: Clarity, as I stated previously, was obviously scum when he rolled scum in Newbie Mini XXX. Looks much closer to his Mario Mini play style, where he was town. Add on top of that, he was sandrobas' attempted mislynch. These are my thoughts on Clarity from earlier. I wouldn't object to Djordref being in the team, either. | ||
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On November 27 2012 05:53 Z-BosoN wrote: Regarding SnB: Marv gave me no reason to think that he was town, I´ve played quite a few games with him and his game up to that point is not how he plays as town. Yet SnB comes guns-all-blazing saying marv is town. My logical reason for finding him scum is: "how is SnB so confident that marv is town, when there is nothing from his play to support this?". I really can´t see why you view this as "illogical". But I kinda backtracked later in the post because I´ve played once with him being town, and once with him being scum, and to me his meta says a different story than what I was suggesting. Ergo, ask marv, who´s played a ton with him. Also, @marv, is there any game where he was town and pinned you as scum? I´m assuming no, because I don´t believe he can accurately judge your alignment, especially that early in the game. Correct me if I´m wrong. I backed off him because marv confirmed that he is in fact playing with his meta read, and he wouldn´t lie about that either as scum or as town. You say some of my day one posts are just summaries of what is happening in the game, whilst neglecting my entire gameplay ever since that point. I have some "summary" posts, and I have some posts actually trying to figure shit out. This point is insanely weak imo. You, for instance, just narrated my push on sandroba, without specifying why it makes me scum. Your case boils down to: -I cant believe that S&B has a town read on marv. -I find S&B's play this game to look like his town game. Therefore, scum. You cant see why that is illogical? There is literally nothing in your case that even comes close to showing why S&B is scum or has any scum motivation at all. He lurked a bit, threw out a single town read and you're trying to hang him for it. Yes, I do say that some of your posts are summaries and neglect the rest. I am not going to quote every single one of your posts, only the posts that I take an issue with for being padded. The last sentence is deflecting, but ill indulge you. Your repeated campaigning for sandroba to be elected on the basis of him having an easy meta to read, while continually postulating that you have no idea about his meta is completely ass-backwards. If this was one of your main reasons for electing someone as the party leader, why do you claim to not know what you're talking about? It just makes no damn sense from a town perspective, but I can think of one from a scum perspective - an 'out' if sandroba ever flips scum, you can just claim ignorance. | ||
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On November 27 2012 14:51 Keirathi wrote: Anyways, I've finalized my proposed party: Me, syllo, Oats, Djodref ##Vote Keirathi | ||
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You're fine by me, Acro. | ||
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On November 28 2012 08:54 iamperfection wrote: really i think i have been playing bad the things in my filter shouldn't make you think i'm town. My claims and damage reports should make you think it. Don't sell yourself short. This post right here is why I consider you town: On November 25 2012 13:16 iamperfection wrote: dino you have my vote if you remove phagga. from besides myself (obiously) i would like you to pick marv he would be my top town read at this point. I think your other picks are great. Lets play the hypothetical logic game. You pushed to have marv included in the Day 3 team, over Phagga. If you are scum and phagga is scum, you just campaigned to have one of your teammates replaced on the team by a (now confirmed) townie - probably not the optimal play. If you are scum and phagga is town, you just traded one townie on the mission for another - why would scum bother? No, I find you town for this action, pushing your better read over an unknown read. I admit I was on the fence about you until marv flipped, but with that knowledge, I happily made you yellow (most probably town) in my spreadsheet. | ||
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On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now... In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist: 1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out. 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... 3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar... 4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too. 5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party 6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later... 7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter. 8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...). 9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions. 10) Toad - Scum 11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read... goodkarma, your suspect 'short list' is actually quite long and rather unfocused. It boils down to a list of null reads besides the confirmed scum and advocating patience. I'm curious, risk.nuke is surprisingly missing from your list. Does this mean you have some kind of solid read on him? Enlighten me as to what that is please. | ||
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Actually point to stuff in his filter, reason it out so I can follow your line of thinking. | ||
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On November 28 2012 08:32 goodkarma wrote: Don't worry about the lurkers. All you can do is encourage them to participate. To: On November 29 2012 02:00 goodkarma wrote: With the exceptions of VE, I stand by the list I made. Strong is not the strong scumread I originally had yesterday, after reconsidering the circumstances, as I stated later yesterday. CaveJohnson and Adam remain at the top of the list for who I'd recommend we shoot. I consider them to be scummy lurkers. In less than 24 hours. I am not 'preoccupied tunneling Z-boson', I have made exactly two posts outlining why I think he is scum. You still haven't given an answer about your read on risk.nuke. | ||
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##Vote Toadesstern | ||
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I agree GK is probably scum, him ignoring my my question on risk.nuke isn't helping that any. | ||
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On November 29 2012 13:04 goodkarma wrote: Might as well roleclaim now: My name is Fiona. I have a vigilante-type role. Night 3, I was responsible for 150 points of damage on CaveJohnson. So here's what I propose: 1) You see if anyone comes forward to counterclaim the damage. 2) If someone does one of us is scum. Lynch accordingly. 3) If not, I am incredibly tired of having to deal with ignorant people... I'm going to role claim now, so that later as confirmed town I'm entitled to draw giant pictures of dinosaurs, and run around failing parties like I've been lobotomized. See you guys later after I've calmed down. Why are you so mad at Dieno? He made a mistake, it happens. You were sent on a mission with 2 semi-confirmed townies, and being in a better position then all of us due to knowing your alignment, you should have been able to make a definitive call as to whether Acro positively or negatively affects missions. I feel like the right response would have been to come in, be adamant that you are town and try and dump this mess on Acro. Yet your first post after the mission result is: On November 29 2012 09:14 goodkarma wrote: So now what? Toad very well could be lying. He could have 1 HP or 700 HP... There's no way of knowing. I say lynch him anyway. ##Vote: Toad "So now what?" does not feel like the right reaction to someone that feels like they've just been 'framed' by the mission failure. | ||
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On November 29 2012 13:41 goodkarma wrote: I did affirmatively say it was Acro. I've said it several times. Why would it be my first reaction to "dump it on him?" Acro claimed 3rd party. He's clearly not town. How in any way shape or form did it suddenly become obviously my fault? Being on a failed party, you should inherently expect some level of scrutiny. From that, I would expect you to think "Well, i'm town, Dieno is probably town, Keriathi is probably town, therefore this is Acro's fault and he has a negative modifier." Instead you don't even acknowledge the failed mission until your 5th post after the mission post, when you bring up Acro being 3rd party. This post came 2.5 hours after the mission post, it damn well should have been the very first thing that jumped into your head after seeing that mission result with those 4 players on it. | ||
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##Party Leader: Clarity_nl I am content with any of the previously successful mission-goers going again today, plus Djo and iamp. | ||
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He would be my second choice, what do y'all think. | ||
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On November 30 2012 05:16 Acrofales wrote: I am getting a very marginal town read on GK. It's perfectly possible that between Keir and me the party failed. That makes GK an unfortunate casualty. The way he has been playing is definitely not strong town, and I really want to see him step it up, but I don't get a clear scum vibe from him either. There are, imho, scummier candidates who could serve as the "second" lynch target. GK: please answer the questions all the same. Explaining your thought process can only help you, if you are in fact town. I agree, I find his reaction to all the heat recently does not line up with how I expect a scum to respond. Z-BosoN, on the other hand. His most recent response has done nothing to change my mind. Take a look at his filter next please. I plan to treat his replacement with the same level of mistrust as I have him, we will not have a repeat of Mario MM. | ||
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Anyone with some chrono-trigger knowledge have any idea which way we should go with the Slash battle? What is a triple tech attack, for example. | ||
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