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On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote:
A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical.
Imp: me no can heal.
Honestly, I think Drazerk is lying about everything he has done this game. His role sounds OP compared to mine: I haven't tried all my abilities yet, but I have not yet stumbled upon anything as powerful as the nuke Drazerk claimed to use last night. Kush had one, but it was his ONLY ability. I also only have 9 abilities and can't know what they do until I fire them.
He claims 250 HP, but never takes the damage he's supposed to and doesn't die when he's supposed to. He claims to be able to nuke for retarded amounts, which don't line up with what actually hits. He doesn't hit Kita with the damage he claims he is doing.
Imho one (or both) of Drazerk and Kita is lying about the damage they've been dealing to each other. Add that to the absolute weirdness of Drazerk's role and I am quite convinced Drazerk is lying.
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Oh, and H1 is in a similar situation: it's not completely the same, but he doesn't just get knowledge of his abilities for free at night.
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On December 01 2012 03:57 CaveJohnson wrote:I'm not even lying 
To be fair, the damage on Toad could be Toad lying or scum using some protection on him as well.
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On December 01 2012 03:57 CaveJohnson wrote:I'm not even lying
Ok. Explain to us how "Spicy Jerky" was supposed to work.
Explain to us what Dota ability coincides with Turducken.
Give us your theories on who, what and why you were saved last night.
Tell us what EMP was supposed to do.
Tell us what you did N2.
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On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?
Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.
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I also agree with Dieno that there seems to be a large chunk of scum-directed KP missing on D2. Either they can save KP and unleash it all in one hit (and that hit Marv D3), or town got some lucky protects off.
We have a claimed protection on Syllo. Iamperfection claims he was healed and took 30 damage, so some might have gone there (although I cannot for the life of me figure out why). It still all feels rather light.
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On the one hand I want to believe you. This is no crazier than Yugi Moto, and it seems too crazy for even you to make up. On the other hand, I do know that Hassy and you were working on Dota Mafia and you could just have taken your Invoker role from there and make up random food names.
For starters, there is no Turducken that I know of in Chrono Trigger.
EMP and a giant nuke also do not go together at all.
It's just all so weird.
And add to that the fact that your damage report makes no sense. Kita claims to shoot you twice, you take half damage D1 and no damage D4.
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On December 01 2012 04:39 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 04:38 Hopeless1der wrote:On December 01 2012 04:23 Hopeless1der wrote:On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them. Screwed with them in what way? Reflects it... I thought I'd already stated this 4 cycles ago?
Kita, did you take 25 or 50 damage on N1, in addition to the guessing game?
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On December 01 2012 04:43 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 03:30 Acrofales wrote:Okay. I think I'm done. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgRwUW7S2s2HdHFnd1J0T2hzWmNKTmR5R2xUZ1dzNncNot making it editable. Last time I made my spreadsheet editable Caller played with it. If there's something wrong, let me know in the thread. Weird shit that needs explaining: Hapa heal on D3. Syllo doing damage and roleblocking on the same night. Prom claiming less damage than Syllo claimed to deal. Drazerk claiming less damage than Kita claimed to deal... twice. Kita claiming no damage when Drazerk claimed to deal it. Drazerk dealing less damage than he should have on N4. There are lots of unclaimed roleblocks. There seem to be too many protective roles and way less damage dealing roles than makes sense balance-wise. All members of the N4 party took 75 damage, so it could have been the event, or it could be scum activated to deal damage to the party.
If possible disable the messaging portion of the google spreadsheet.
If you cannot it goes without saying that no communication may be done in there.
I tried. It doesn't seem to have the option to switch comments off. If you like I can copypaste the thing to the thread and switch it back to private. It'll just be a giant mess.
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On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.
Are you claiming you roleblocked Djodref on N2? Also, why Djodref? What made you pick him out over Phagga or Kita?
Also, I find you talking about self-preservation rather funny.
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On December 01 2012 04:12 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 03:56 Acrofales wrote:On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote:
A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical.
Imp: me no can heal. Honest ly, I think Drazerk is lying about everything he has done this game. His role sounds OP compared to mine: I haven't tried all my abilities yet, but I have n ot yet stumbled upon anything as powerful as the nuke Drazerk claimed to use last night. Kush had one, but it was his ONLY ability. I also only have 9 abilities and can't know what they do until I fi re them. He claims 250 HP, but never takes the damage he's supposed to and doesn't die when he's supposed to. He claims to be able to nuke for retarded amounts, which don't line up with what actually hits. He doesn't hit Kita with the damage he claims he is doing. Imho one (or both) of Drazerk and Kita is lying about the damage they've been dealing to each other. Add that to the absolute weirdness of Drazerk's role and I am quite convinced Drazerk is lying. Well duh. I consider this as fact: Everything Toad says at this point is a lie and intended to misguide town. Now here I put forth case a and b. They both concern the same event. case.a Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
holy crap someone shot me for 710 dmg. case.b Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 10:22 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh i really took 750 dmg but I'm pretty much immortal (again, why does every host give those roles to me? It's like the 3rd time I'm the joker in a row) so you can't really kill me. Which tells me he didn't take any dmg, hence could be why he didn't shake when I indirectly quizzed him about his hp
A fiendish plot. I also saw the two different claims and figured he was probably lying. I wouldn't be so fast as to say he took no damage, just that he is lying about how much damage he took. He's grasping the opportunity to spread misinformation in the town (and forcing me to give up information about my HP, which luckily is rather high).
Well, we lynch Toad tonight and that's the end of it.
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On December 01 2012 05:18 GreYMisT wrote:
Cycle 5 lynch count!
Toadesstern (?): Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, Hopeless1der, Djodref, Adam4167, phagga, Promethelax, Acrofales, syllogism, VisceraEyes, TheChronicler, Dienosore, iamperfection, strongandbig, hapahauli, risk.nuke
Syllogism (?): Toadesstern
goodkarma (?): Promethelax, phagga, goodkarma
phagga (?): goodkarma
Cycle 6 Party Leader!
Clarity_nl (15): Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, Hopeless1der, Djodref, Adam4167, phagga, Promethelax, Promethelax, syllogism, TheChronicler, Dienosore, iamperfection, strongandbig, Hapahauli, risk.nuke
Keirathi (2): Acrofales, phagga, goodkarma
Toadesstern (1): Toadesstern
syllogism (2): VisceraEyes, Acrofales
Forgot about the "hidden" lynch already? :D
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EBWOP: ah, I see that the numbers are blanks. That might actually mean something. Let me go back and see if the numbers on Sandroba's lynch work out.
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On December 01 2012 05:24 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 05:07 Acrofales wrote:On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them. Are you claiming you roleblocked Djodref on N2? Also, why Djodref? What made you pick him out over Phagga or Kita? Also, I find you talking about self-preservation rather funny. Not unless he took damage on either cycle 2 or 3 (one not both) I presumed he was the most likely to actually do damage to me. Kita had already failed at hitting me once and I'll be honest when I say I didn't take Phagga seriously.
He took damage on cycle 2, but it's probably from the same thing that hit iamperfection, clarity and me.
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On November 25 2012 09:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Final Day 2 Lynch Count!
Sandroba (16): Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, Adam4167, goodkarma, risk.nuke, strongandbig, syllogism, TheChronicler, Hapahauli, Promethelax, Toadesstern, Viscera Eyes, kitaman27, iamperfection, marvellosity, Keirathi, phagga, Oatsmaster,
BioSC (0): Djodref
CaveJohnson (0): Djodref, [s]phagga/s]
TheChronicler (1): Djodref, Acrofales, Hopeless1der
Promethelax (0): Hapahauli
kitaman27 (0): Djodref, marvellosity
goodkarma (1): Dienosore
Toadesstern (7): Acrofales, Hapahauli, Clarity_nl, Djodref, Z-BosoN, CaveJohnson
It is now Night 3 blah blah I'm technically not co-host
This votecount looks completely wrong. Oatsmaster is listed twice. GK's vote on Toad is counted (presumably), but not listed. Can we get the final, official, complete and correct votecount for D2 please?
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No offense to Hassy, btw. We love him for stepping in at such short notice to do Mementoss' job 
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Given the new and fixed votecount, doublevoters either don't show up in the votecount, meaning the numbers would be pointless in any case, or they are activated abilities. In either case, I don't think there's much risk, unless scum has a lynchmaster or a pardoner. In either of these cases, the hidden mechanic of this election still seems irrelevant.
TLDR: unless I am completely missing something the "hidden lynch" mechanic seems pointless and we should play as if it doesn't exist.
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I agree with Syllo here. Scum HAS to try to get into the party to try to win the game, unless town is derping it up (and as long as we leave Dieno out of it, town is not derping it up). They have either already infiltrated our town circle of Dieno, Clarity, Syllo, Oats and Keirathi and are biding their time, OR they are trying desperately to change something in the way our town works. Shooting Marv was a start, but in addition to shooting members, they need to somehow get themselves into the party.
I'd say TheChronicler is nearest to being in the town circle without actually being in yet... and it's entirely possible he's been bamboozling us all, but I honestly doubt it. We also have Djodref, who has been giving me town vibes all game and his save of Dieno seems pretty townie too. Given this situation it seems to me that scum really has to get something done. That brings us to everybody else who is trying to get in on a party. Of these Hapa and Kita seem the most adamant about how they should/deserve to be included.
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On December 01 2012 06:35 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 06:31 syllogism wrote:
No one really is by this point. I'm not disputing the fact that mafia realizes that they can not do anything right now. No one is making any attempts, because it's not possible. I'm not convinced that he is mafia, I just think it is likely. Doesn't matter much though until we get our next lynch. I will say that I would rather include some of these lurking players in the party than him. Just a quick question, but could you humor me and tell me a scum motivation for Hapa to lie about taking damage (or healing for that matter)? I can't think of any reason he'd feel motivated to lie about this, as town or scum...
If you are looking townie, then people will interpret the source of damage to be scum. Therefore claiming damage makes you look townier (in fact, it makes you look like valuable town, because scum is trying to off you).
Toad claiming the shot "confirms" that this damage came from a scum source.
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On that note, does anybody feel like claiming they shot Hapa for 50 damage on N3?
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