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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 13:19 GMT
#5964
I'm vary of going to End of Time because it looks like more damage was inflicted on N4 than on others. It's possible that Dianosore took extra damage for failing the event (so more than 75), but if not mafia inflicted 400+250 and that's with VE being roleblocked.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#5980
He had already claimed that, S&B visited him and took 100 damage. This conversation is incredibly pointless all around.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 14:59 GMT
#5993
Iamperfection I don't care if you believe Hapa is town (he isn't), but at least don't heal him again
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:08 GMT
#5997
On December 04 2012 00:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 23:59 syllogism wrote:
Iamperfection I don't care if you believe Hapa is town (he isn't), but at least don't heal him again

my heals have been great this game

Absolutely, I didn't mean to criticize your choices so far.

However, you should read Hapa's claim again to see if it makes sense, even if you don't find a problem with the rest of his play. He claims his ability does 100 damage to the person he targets and then 75 to the target of his target and finally 50 to the next in the chain. He claims he targeted Toad twice with this amazingly towny ability, even knowing that Toad has a damaging ability. Essentially he says he inflicted 100 damage on someone he thinks mafia (Toad) while at the same time not caring about the fact the rest of his damage would likely hit town (125 overall).

He also never attempted to figure out who Toad had been targeting with his 100 damage draining ability, as evidenced by the fact that today he was still under the impression that Toad's target would have taken 75 damage (instead of 175, since Toad's own ability does 100 damage).
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:12 GMT
#5999
He also didn't go anywhere on the night that he claimed having visited Clarity
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:15 GMT
#6002
He claimed visiting Clarity on two nights. I roleblocked+tracked him on the first one. He only activated your RB this cycle.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:23 GMT
#6007
Well he would have needed a completely different claim to explain why he stayed home. I can't explain why other than that he made a mistake or thought that claiming this would be more believable.

Attempting to explain why mafia make mistakes is pointless. If S&B is mafia, he could have made a much more believable claim but did not. He could have visited phaga as instructed, but did not.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:32 GMT
#6015
If he had attacked Clarity or someone, that person would have taken damage. I'm done having this conversation as I don't need to convince you of anything.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:32 GMT
#6017
I retract that point because it's very dumb.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:34 GMT
#6019
I think you are not a person who can easily be reasoned with.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:37 GMT
#6021
So hapa can you shoot VE this cycle
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 16:05 GMT
#6029
On December 04 2012 01:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 00:36 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't think syllo is lying, but as stated previously, I did attempt to protect nl_clarity. The only way I can think of how this works is if I was roleblocked by another player.


That's not how Syllo's ability works though, iirc
He roleblocks you but he gets told who you planned on targeting.

Syllo could you ask the host if it changes anything if hapa was roleblocked by someone other than you?

I've already sent the PM asking about that.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:16 GMT
#6035
Okay, so Hapa tried to visit Clarity.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:18 GMT
#6038
No, I don't trust you at all, but I received a correction
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:26 GMT
#6041
Why did you say you didn't know Toad had a damaging ability when he claimed shooting you? Why does a town aligned player have a role that even when used on mafia, it is is likely to do more damage on town aligned players than on mafia? If the answer is that it can be used to "confirm" night actions, why did you not attempt to use it like that?

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. We'll see how things have developed once your alignment becomes more relevant.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:35 GMT
#6045
No, straight up 100 damage shots aren't overpowered at all.

Oh here is a question. Do you get some kind of bonus in your native era? Is this era 1000 AD?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:48 GMT
#6052
Hapa: but you thought hopeless was mafia in cycle 3 and we had already seen a framer role flip (sandroba)
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:48 GMT
#6053
On December 04 2012 02:44 iamperfection wrote:
Anyone find it wierd that I was roleblocked?

Didn't you visit clarity as well?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:52 GMT
#6056
On December 04 2012 02:51 iamperfection wrote:
I was trying to heal clarity

Prom says his role roleblocked everyone who attempted to visit Clarity. I'm not sure if I still understand how his role allegedly works though.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 04 2012 10:16 GMT
#6148
I don't care at all about speculation about what kind of events are linked to which time period or whether we have to travel to certain time zones period defeating lavos. We do not have enough evidence to make any conclusions about these things and I do not think it would be fair or make sense to expect us to.

What I do care about is the potential for mafia to get double actions or some other bonus in certain time period and there is some, albeit weak, evidence suggesting that the end of time is not a good place to be. The fact Drazerk, a person of dubious motives, wants to go there is another argument against it.

I think 600 AD or 2300 AD are the best options.
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