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On November 25 2012 20:53 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 09:32 Promethelax wrote:
okay, it seems that my role is pretty contentious for Kita and Kier (and probably everyone else who has a name that stars with K) the ability I used last night Roleblocks all players who target a single player with their actions. I took a gamble and assumed that I was the only one with a roleblocking ability because only two people claimed RB'd and I assumed that they both targeted Syllo. I did not want to reveal why I knew that those players targeted Syllo or the correlation with the roleblocks (this is why I haven't yet confronted marv about his targeting Syllo but now that the cat is out of the bag: Marv, what were you trying to do to the Great Leader?). I decided to gamble that i was right and that Sand had targeted Syllo (50% chance at least just from there being only two RB claims) and force him to claim what he had done.
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Why, though? because I thought it was likely that in a 25 player game at least one player would target the leader of the successful d1 quest, I assumed that at least one mafia would target him with a detrimental ability. If no one targeted him he would eventually gain some protection. win-win.
But you worked from the assumption that in a 25 player game you're the only one with a roleblocking ability?
On November 25 2012 20:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually I think that its too fast to be for lavos, the first '10' was posted less than 12 hours ago, I think that it is related to an ability.
I also think that the ability is targeted towards a scum player because a town player wouldve told us the reason. WIFOM ftw :D
I don't think that's WIFOM. It would be wifom to call someone who tells us about the countdown town, however.
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On November 25 2012 10:05 GreYMisT wrote:10
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It would be weird to assume these are time-bound, just because of the times. Maybe it's something we say or it's something someone is doing. Either way we need a third data point to rule some things out.
I think we should ignore this for now.
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On November 25 2012 20:59 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:57 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 20:55 Hassybaby wrote:On November 25 2012 20:45 Promethelax wrote:
okay guys, those of you who have played CT. Any idea what a countdown has to do with anything?
how delayed? Just under an hour now. Was supposed to be at 20:00 KST exactly 20:00? Yes
Oh, every 10 hours is a fair assumption then.... disregard last post.
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On November 25 2012 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Right, I think that the timecodes are in KST right? New to TL 
Yep. 10 hours apart, we still should ignore it for now until we have more info.
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On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
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Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case. I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s Maybe its something targeting your time period?
I do not have a specific timeperiod.
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On November 25 2012 07:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv if something happens tonight other than you taking damage please do not share that fact, I might rely on it later.
On November 25 2012 21:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 15:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
I took 30 damage, same as Djo. And we both took 20 damage last night. I'm willling to guess we'll take 40 damage tonight.
Anyway, marv I'm guessing you only got notified of any damage you took?
Catching up on the thread atm. I took no damage last night, but I was healed.
Dicks.
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On November 26 2012 00:24 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
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Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case. I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s Maybe its something targeting your time period? I do not have a specific timeperiod. Wiki your character. Mine wasn't specified either but I know I'm from 1000AD.
I guarantee you it is not.
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On November 26 2012 00:27 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 07:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv if something happens tonight other than you taking damage please do not share that fact, I might rely on it later. On November 25 2012 21:31 marvellosity wrote:On November 25 2012 15:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
I took 30 damage, same as Djo. And we both took 20 damage last night. I'm willling to guess we'll take 40 damage tonight.
Anyway, marv I'm guessing you only got notified of any damage you took?
Catching up on the thread atm. I took no damage last night, but I was healed. Dicks. lol, I have no problem with you healing marv Clarity. You were so obvious by the way 
It was 1 shot anyway, but marv would've only gotten healed with the right circumstances that I'm not willing to share, but let me just say that marv has not been lying about his night stuff.
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On November 26 2012 00:28 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 00:24 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
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Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case. I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s Maybe its something targeting your time period? I do not have a specific timeperiod. Wiki your character. Mine wasn't specified either but I know I'm from 1000AD. I guarantee you it is not. Oh am I missing something about where my character came from 0.o?
No, sorry. I guarantee my character is not from a specific era.
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I think it's just a 1shot, pick 3 people, they will take incremental damage for X cycles. I don't think there's much more to read into it. I do think it makes it more likely that djo and iamp are town though, although obviously it's possible one of us is lying about the damage.
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On November 26 2012 00:44 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think it's just a 1shot, pick 3 people, they will take incremental damage for X cycles. I don't think there's much more to read into it. I do think it makes it more likely that djo and iamp are town though, although obviously it's possible one of us is lying about the damage. @ClarityAre you the one lying about the damage ?
Does it matter how I answer? No, I'm not lying.
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Oh it's 4? Djo iamp me and?
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On November 26 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 00:44 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think it's just a 1shot, pick 3 people, they will take incremental damage for X cycles. I don't think there's much more to read into it. I do think it makes it more likely that djo and iamp are town though, although obviously it's possible one of us is lying about the damage. @ClarityAre you the one lying about the damage ? Does it matter how I answer? No, I'm not lying. So why did you say that this ability is picking 3 people ?
Because I thought it was 3 people.
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I got a town vibe off of iamp all game but I'll take a look I guess. Expand your case with some quotes perhaps? His sporadic activity is about the same as in Mario Mini.
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On November 26 2012 01:44 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 01:34 iamperfection wrote:
I was healed because someone is paying attention and thats ill I will say about that @iampI would eat my hat is this "someone" is town. Paying attention ? Like in "I should heal iamp because he is obviously the biggest asset of the town" ?
You'll eat your hat? How did you go from not mentioning iamp to suddenly being so sure he's scum? Sure your case has merit but it's not a knockout by any standard.
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On November 26 2012 02:08 goodkarma wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 26 2012 01:44 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 01:34 iamperfection wrote:
I was healed because someone is paying attention and thats ill I will say about that @iampI would eat my hat is this "someone" is town. Paying attention ? Like in "I should heal iamp because he is obviously the biggest asset of the town" ? Trying to cattle-prod people of the apathy that iamp has shown won't get you very far... Am I missing something, or have we not finalized a team party? I would have thought that would be our top priority. People I'm okay with seeing in a party (in no particular order):Hapa - definitely someone others here might consider an interesting choice, but he has shown a genuine interest in the thread and I am in general agreement with his reads. I have not played with him when he was scum, so not based off of meta... Oats - prior party, all but "confirmed" town Dieno - prior party, all but "confirmed" town Keir - prior party, all but "confirmed" town syllo - prior party, all but "confirmed" town Acro. - verifiable role claim, super-active and geniunely interested in scum hunting TheChronicler - Don't like his posting, and yet claim is easily verifiable. I doubt scum would have done this. Marv - I can understand the merits of taking him along with three strong town reads as a means of "confirming he's town." I've never played with him before (unless you count rockband, which I replaced out of quite early). As such, I am working off his reputation of being a strong scum player when asking we be cautious about bringing him unless we can establish him as the weak link in our party if it fails. So if I were to recommend a team it would be: Oats / Dieno / (TheChronicler or Hapa) / MarvKeir and Acro are not good picks due to their self-admitted low success modifiers. As for Clarity:Clarity made a "case" on sandroba long after his lynch was gaining traction. If this is the reason people have determined he is a good party candidate, I would ask they reconsider. It's pretty clear scum bussed Sandroba, so I don't give him much town cred for doing this... Oats and Dieno have gained the most traction as party leader. Perhaps we could spend a little time coming to some consensus as to which of them should lead before we argue about scum suspects we can't lynch today?
I guess I should address this. I made the case because I easily saw the bandwagon dissappearing, although I was convinced he was scum. Everyone seemed to call the bandwagon stupid and people were saying that the only reason he has so many votes was because he went inactive, I went to prove that there was a legitimate reason to vote for him.
But yeah it's fair that you shouldn't give me townie cred for my 2nd case on him.
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On November 26 2012 02:42 Djodref wrote:I'm going to fight all the campaigns and parties including TheChronicler. We cannot check the truth of his claim. He isn't a beacon of townieness. Also, nobody is voting for me and I think that some of my points were wrong, especially the fact the we shouldn't concentrate too much town assets on a single player. It could make like easier for the protective roles. Regarding the point where we should try to propose 3 new players as party members, it doesn't look like this idea is popular. Conclusion - I withdraw my candidature for this election !I would like Oats as a party leader ! It's his time period and he still has full health. I'm counting on the protective roles to take care of him. I wish him to receive a gift and to use it well. And yes I've changed my mind about it ! I would like Syllo or Dieno as second member for this party. Risk.nuke brought up an interesting point about how the HP of the players could influence the outcome of the event. It's up to the leader choice  I recognize town Clarity in our Clarity and I think I could sense scum Clarity quite easily. In my opinion, Clarity should be the third member of the expedition.I'm not decided yet on the fourth and last member of my ideal team. I'm leaning on Marv right now. I would like to be brought along but I don't think my presence would be very consensual. Plus I know that Oats doesn't like my style of play
Might be shooting myself in the foot by saying this but you underestimate how fast I improve at things.
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On November 26 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
My problem with Chronicler's claim is: Why the hell did he check Sandro and Toad against each other? Shouldn't he have picked one obvious townie, and one suspicious person? Picking two suspicious people doesn't make any sense, because until one of them flips, you don't know anything about either of them.
He picked those two because one of them was going to flip. Thereby immediately confirming the other person's alignment (assuming no tampering)
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On November 26 2012 02:51 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 02:49 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
My problem with Chronicler's claim is: Why the hell did he check Sandro and Toad against each other? Shouldn't he have picked one obvious townie, and one suspicious person? Picking two suspicious people doesn't make any sense, because until one of them flips, you don't know anything about either of them. He picked those two because one of them was going to flip. Thereby immediately confirming the other person's alignment (assuming no tampering) He picked them night 1. Before we even knew we were going to have a lynch day.
My mistake. So many claimed night actions I should go make a list before I open my mouth again. I still don't think they're bad choices even for N1 though. Sandro was under scrutiny near the end of that cycle.
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On November 26 2012 02:52 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 02:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 02:42 Djodref wrote:I'm going to fight all the campaigns and parties including TheChronicler. We cannot check the truth of his claim. He isn't a beacon of townieness. Also, nobody is voting for me and I think that some of my points were wrong, especially the fact the we shouldn't concentrate too much town assets on a single player. It could make like easier for the protective roles. Regarding the point where we should try to propose 3 new players as party members, it doesn't look like this idea is popular. Conclusion - I withdraw my candidature for this election !I would like Oats as a party leader ! It's his time period and he still has full health. I'm counting on the protective roles to take care of him. I wish him to receive a gift and to use it well. And yes I've changed my mind about it ! I would like Syllo or Dieno as second member for this party. Risk.nuke brought up an interesting point about how the HP of the players could influence the outcome of the event. It's up to the leader choice I recognize town Clarity in our Clarity and I think I could sense scum Clarity quite easily. In my opinion, Clarity should be the third member of the expedition.I'm not decided yet on the fourth and last member of my ideal team. I'm leaning on Marv right now. I would like to be brought along but I don't think my presence would be very consensual. Plus I know that Oats doesn't like my style of play Might be shooting myself in the foot by saying this but you underestimate how fast I improve at things. Yeah, you are certainly right, I'm underestimating you But I have some big town tells in your filter for this game, sorry ^^ You were not bad at all for a first scum in your first (I don't count the modkill one) game. I'm anticipating the next game in which I could tunnel you to death. Who would you be your ideal party for today by the way ?
We'll see, because I can easily see you tunneling someone to death who turns out to be town, and you were so present for two days no one got anything done. =]
Eh, ideal party.
Dieno Oats myself..... fourth is the hardest. I'd have to re-check but the three I'd consider would be marv, hapa and phagga
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