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On November 24 2012 20:38 sandroba wrote: I answered that already: kita. He got overshadowed by his lack of activity and the fact that everyone was supporting me or syllo right off the bat. I've not seen any reasoning from you on why kita (or anyone else for that matter). What gives? You're not pushing anyone. Probably you only have to convince syllo, but this influential punter wants to know why you're not pushing your reads either? Regarding Prome's interactions with me: I'm ok backing up Prome on this aspect of his play. As the target I didn't feel anything unnatural about it. I tend to have quite specific and different interactions with people. I saw iamp mentioned, and I agree with keir/hapa. Was a townread early but waning. Regarding my own play - I seem more interested on a lynch day than some party leader n stuff day? Go figure if that makes sense from what you know about me as a mafia (the game) player. Today I need to research kita quite a bit to see if I'm being unfair with the standards I'm holding him to. I can't really get over right now how he said he supported a sandroba lynch (as if he always had) but had never mentioned it before and has never mentioned it again. syllogism's assertion that kita goes after easy targets hasn't helped. On TheChronicler - just totally uninterested. I still don't really think he's scum and it's all a bit tedious. From the way the game has progressed I get the impression that sandroba and kitaman aren't both town. And there are reasons for both to be scum. Now to find out which is the best lynch. | ||
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On November 24 2012 20:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Anyone else think that this is a setup by Sandro and Prome to 'verify' both their alignments? Lets go through the sequence of events, 1. Sandro posts that he is roleblocked. 2. Prome imply's that he did the roleblock and it had a special ability showing who the target attacked that cycle. 3. Sandro then claims the ability, Shadow and says he targeted Syllo, which basically again, imply's that Sandro is town. Some scenarios with these two players did cross my mind, but I don't want to speculate too much right now. Suffice to say if we lynched sandroba and he flipped scum, this would not make Prome necessarily town. | ||
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On November 24 2012 21:39 Acrofales wrote: Is not pushing reads a scumtell? Especially if so blatantly obvious about it? if i ask myself what town sand and scum sand would be doing in this situation, yeah, it's a scumtell. I understand far less why town sandroba isn't pushing anyone. | ||
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On November 24 2012 21:52 syllogism wrote: Stop distorting the case against him Acro. I seem to be trying to read sandro as if I'm skyping with him? That's completely nonsensical. You don't feel sandro is not playing any different? How about the fact he has done or said nothing useful at all whole game long. Not a single read; just throwing a name out there with no reasoning is not a read. Failure to construct reads is fairly in line with what? Is the sandro you know completely useless? The little time he has devoted to the game has centered around him defending himself rather than doing something actually useful. Despite the amount of seeming effort you are putting into the game, your defense of Sandro is starting to feel quite suspicious. what do you make of sand's point about his party selection? | ||
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On November 24 2012 21:50 Acrofales wrote: Are you pushing anyone? You're pressuring people, but I don't get the opinion that you have made up your mind on anybody you think is scum. You are not pushing your reads much either. Is that a scumtell for you? How about Kita? Toad? Why single Sandroba out of the veterans who are not currently pushing their scum reads? Don't be dense, I've been pursuing kita for some time now even if I haven't made a formal case/vote. | ||
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On November 24 2012 21:59 syllogism wrote: I think town sandro would realize that it is completely meaningless as he never had to select a party and it's quite likely that just one mafia is under normal circumstances enough to cause the mission to fail, and therefore he wouldn't attempt to use something like to defend himself. yes, that's kinda obvious now you say it. | ||
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On November 24 2012 22:11 Acrofales wrote: Yeah. You've been pressuring him. I have not gotten the feeling ever that you have made up your mind yet. That's okay, I haven't made up my mind yet either. But calling Sandroba out for not having made up his mind and pushing his read is hypocritical. I do find his lack of thread presence disconcerting. In all games I have played with him, his thread presence (or PM presence in SSM) has been commanding. However, RL issues are a good reason for lack of thread presence. ok, fair enough, it is somewhat hypocritical. But I've clearly been pursuing targets harder than sand whichever way you look at it, plus he's up for the lynch and I'm not. I don't understand the lack of urgency at all. Real life issues or not, sandroba has not been impactful when he HAS been here. | ||
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Sincerely, Someone-not-terrible. | ||
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On November 24 2012 23:14 Toadesstern wrote: I wouldn't say 50 times. And no the explanation I've given is that you're usually better than what you're showing. I really disliked your d1 performance. I really disliked the points you were pointing out d1, like when I was voting Kita and you kept on harping about it like you're some guy in his 2nd game who never had a game with me. I really dislike the fact that you're not so much involved early on, like you did in whatever-the-name-was-the-one-were-I-was-mason and turned out to be mafia as well. Can't say much about your d2 performace right now because again, I'm still catching up. I didn't want to go there, because it didn't seem worth it, but you've been straight out lying about LV all game. Mainly to make yourself look better. You excuse yourself in LV for inviting me into your mason chat as either "you were trolling" or there were 2 kenpachi-like people left to invite. This is simple false. You invited me BEFORE confirmed town EchelonTee, because I appeared so town to you, and BEFORE extremely townie newbie austinmcc. You invited me because your read on me was wrong and you thought it was the useful thing to do. Given I replaced in night 1 LV, and pushed a scum straight away who got modkilled, I was viewed as town from very early and that remained the case throughout the game. So saying "I wasn't so much involved early on" is once again a flat out lie. Just to dig the boot in, mafia (me/wiggles) left you alive that game, despite you were confirmed town, for many many cycles because you were so completely and utterly useless. Stop referring to games where you've managed to talk yourself into having a really rosy view of the outcome when in reality your read on me was 100% wrong and you got completely outplayed, and left alive by scum for being an irrelevance. And stop lying about it now. | ||
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On January 06 2012 15:13 kitaman27 wrote: As maifa, I also have a habbit of trolling because it is so easy to do. On November 22 2012 10:03 kitaman27 wrote: THEY'RE BRINGING OUT THE ATTACK ADDS! I WISH IT DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THIS BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE (AND MY FLAMES BURN BLACK) The reason I have been absent is because I have been at work all day like a hard working leader should be. Thankfully I have the next two days off! However, do you know who aren't very thankful? Marv, syllo, and sandroba! ![[image loading]](http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/17971151/2/stock-illustration-17971151-thanksgiving-day-in-america.jpg) I am deeply saddened to report to you all that these three individuals are suspected of not planning to celebrate Thanksgiving tomorrow! There are even rumors that syllo is a VEGETARIAN who enjoys spending the day watching SOCCER! Do you really want to elect a terrorist as your leader? Vote for a true leader. Vote Kita! Paid for by the Kavdragon Sucks Party More to come. Stay tuned! | ||
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in the postgame i just basked in everyone saying how awesome I was, as far as i recall. | ||
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On November 24 2012 23:34 Clarity_nl wrote: How is this relevant to the current game? Toad are you trying to make a meta read on marv without making an actual read? it's relevant because Toad just says random shit without basis and I've decided to completely discredit him for it. | ||
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From looking at past-games, my suspicions on kita are confirmed to what I thought before - he's much more useful and insightful as town than as scum (as well as that little nugget up there  ).I will try to draw that into a logical case containing shit from this game after lunch. I also need to work out if I'm actually opposed to sandroba's lynch, or if I'm just more in favour of a kita lynch. | ||
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On November 25 2012 00:26 Acrofales wrote: Yeah, still frustratingly null on Kita too. The most damning things about him are that he ran for leader and wants to lynch Drazerk. It is just so... circumstantial. He *should* know better about Drazerk, who trolls, fakeclaims and makes himself as useless as possible in every game he's in, regardless of alignment. Not saying Drazerk should never be lynched, but I fail to see how his claim makes him a priority for lynching now. The candidacy is only damning because I agree there should have been some scum in there. Other than that I am unsurprised about Kita running. His stance on Sandroba seems sensible, and he voiced many of the suspicions I have of risk.nuke. you can't be serious. He hasn't taken a stance other than to say he doesn't mind lynching him, which is incredibly weak. | ||
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On November 25 2012 00:09 Acrofales wrote: The bolded statement feels INCREDIBLY forced. As if he is intentionally playing down Sandro's skill at playing scum to make it fit in with his case. Given that everybody and their brother is looking at Sandro to push his reads, don't you think a scum Sandro would have done so by now? Don't you think a town sandro would too? | ||
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On November 25 2012 00:41 Acrofales wrote: Yes. That means it is not indicative of alignment and thus implying that it is, is FORCED. in my opinion a town sandroba would be far more interested in pushing his reads and leading town to the correct lynch than a scum sandroba, whether scum sandroba "should be" or not. | ||
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Isn't he basically a policy lynch? | ||
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