On November 29 2012 13:04 goodkarma wrote:
Might as well roleclaim now:

My name is Fiona. I have a vigilante-type role.

Night 3, I was responsible for 150 points of damage on CaveJohnson.

So here's what I propose:
1) You see if anyone comes forward to counterclaim the damage.
2) If someone does one of us is scum. Lynch accordingly.
3) If not, I am incredibly tired of having to deal with ignorant people... I'm going to role claim now, so that later as confirmed town I'm entitled to draw giant pictures of dinosaurs, and run around failing parties like I've been lobotomized.

See you guys later after I've calmed down.

what about night 1 and 2?

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 04:10 GMT

#4711

On November 29 2012 13:04 goodkarma wrote:

3) If not, I am incredibly tired of having to deal with ignorant people... I'm going to role claim now, so that later as confirmed town I'm entitled to draw giant pictures of dinosaurs, and run around failing parties like I've been lobotomized.

crybaby

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 04:11 GMT

#4712

On November 29 2012 13:08 Promethelax wrote:

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I do. I've posted them before but yeah, I want some input though because I am made out of paranoia and might just be totally wrong. (if you aren't sure about how paranoid I am go look at ACME where I intentionally got Acro to roleclaim roleblocker so that scum would kill him if he was town).

i will have to look at it tomorrow but from my natural reading of the thread i have seen nothing.

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:16 GMT

#4790

On November 29 2012 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote:

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On November 29 2012 23:06 syllogism wrote:

On November 29 2012 06:50 Clarity_nl wrote:

On November 28 2012 01:25 Hapahauli wrote:

On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies.

I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out.

Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective.

From what I understand:
Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me.
Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100.
Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage.

Okay so with the information we have currently this post is false. That's not to say Hapa lied, but he's wrong.
Namely the host saying this (at my request)

On November 28 2012 02:07 GreYMisT wrote:
IF you take 150 damage and are healed for 100 damage in the same night, you will be told

You took 50 damage

You were healed.

So regardless of how much damage you take, if you get healed you get notified of the heal.

This means there are a couple of possibilities:
1. Hapa is lying - This wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, regardless of alignment
2. Some ability made it so Hapa cannot be healed (either it was used both times or it is permanent/lasts a couple of cycles. (this would be a scum ability no doubt)
3. Some ability redirects abilities used on hapa to someone else (again, has to be scum or it would have been claimed by now)

I think the safe thing to say is that we should not be using heals or protection on hapa anymore, but it does not make him scum as far as I can tell. If someone can see a reason why hapa would be lying about getting healed by townies, please do tell.

Why doesn't him lying make sense? It's entirely possible that he lied about taking damage and didn't expect anyone would ever heal him or didn't understand how the mechanic works. He wouldn't be lying about not being healed, he would be lying about taking damage. I find 2) and 3) to make much less sense than 1). Why would mafia target hapa with such abilities when there were much, much better ones available? Basically only third party makes sense, but only really if it was a completely random ability.

Because regardless of if you take damage or not, you get told that you get healed. So if hapa, as scum, got healed, why would he not say it?

Thats not what i was told. I thought the heal had to do actual healing.

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:17 GMT

#4791

If a player is healed and takes no damage what notification would they receive?

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:18 GMT

#4792

ebwop and is at max health as weel

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:20 GMT

#4795

i thought he said he didn't take damage day 1?

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:25 GMT

#4797

uh so what am i missing here?

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:28 GMT

#4799

oh i see he didn't receive a heal notification from your heal

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:28 GMT

#4800

ninja

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:35 GMT

#4802

Did you crumb that you were going to heal hapa?

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 14:43 GMT

#4804

risk why did you invite gk to your circle? What was your reasoning?

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 15:10 GMT

#4816

hey if anyone thinks im not town say it now.

If not i say its time i get in the party.

iamperfection

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November 29 2012 15:11 GMT

#4818

On November 30 2012 00:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sure because we need to think about who might die this cycle. If it was guaranteed that the following people would survive it would be: Dieno Oats Djodref

bro come on