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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 17:14 GMT
#2423
Sorry, I meant someone who's played with him before, should have specified.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 17:24 GMT
#2429
Hapa your case on Hapa focusses a lot on his opposition to syllo getting elected, from a scum perspective I don't see this making sense unless there is a scum running at that time and Prome is indirectly supporting that person.
From the way the elections went only Sand and Kita were in the running at one point or another, are you willing to say that if Prome is scum one of these two is as well, and if so whom?
I realize it is, in a way, an association case with a flip, but I'm curious what you think about this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 17:24 GMT
#2430
ebwop Your case on Prome***
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#2438
On November 25 2012 02:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 02:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hapa your case on Hapa focusses a lot on his opposition to syllo getting elected, from a scum perspective I don't see this making sense unless there is a scum running at that time and Prome is indirectly supporting that person.
From the way the elections went only Sand and Kita were in the running at one point or another, are you willing to say that if Prome is scum one of these two is as well, and if so whom?
I realize it is, in a way, an association case with a flip, but I'm curious what you think about this.


Well that's based (as you say) on associative tells and that's not very good reason to not suspect someone. In addition, there's plenty to suggest from previous games (such as Resistance) that only 1 scum is needed in the party for the mission to fail. Prom (as scum) has plenty of incentive to support a person (kita) who wanted to take him on his team, regardless of allignment.

The stuff on Syllo is valid because he tears him down for no reasoning. He just pushes passive suspicion on Syllo, which is really scummy, especially since we know that Syllo is town.


I wasn't aware of that, thanks.
Marv you said you were checking out Sand, any conclusions?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 17:50 GMT
#2439
Ninja'd
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#2445
On November 25 2012 02:57 TheChronicler wrote:
Lol djo so scummy. Finally got people to move off sand, better go for it bud!


So your current scumreads are Zbo, Toad and Djo. I disagree with all of them.
Please make some cases on them.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:02 GMT
#2493
A lot of people haven't, why does this condemn him but not others? This is not a defense of him, just curious.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:04 GMT
#2497
On November 25 2012 04:02 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:59 goodkarma wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
Marv, in response to your case against me:

-snip-

@Acro, I currently have the players in the game ranked and I have TheChronicler in the top 10 for likely scum suspects due to his reactionary playstyle and his focus on his himself. I've devoted my time elsewhere however so I've only read his filter once.



Could you provide your top five scum suspects? It would be a shame to let such a list go to waste...


"Could you provide your top five scum suspects? It would be a shame to let such a perfect opportunity to paint a target on you if you are close".


No, GK is right. He might get lynched tonight.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:05 GMT
#2501
On November 25 2012 04:05 Dienosore wrote:
Is that so, clarity? Plan on whipping a up a mob against him hours before the noose drops, eh?


Totally.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:07 GMT
#2503
Okay let me expand on that. I think I am one of the least influential people this game, out of the ones who are active.
If someone who IS influential does that though, and we don't get to hear his reads, it'll be a waste.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:11 GMT
#2510
The two most likely candidates to get lynched today are Sandro and Kita.
Sandro is obviously ahead, but we're still 4 hours away from lynch and a lot can happen.
Kita just claimed he has a list of scumreads, but he's not sharing them. He should post them to make sure he doesn't get lynched (if he's town), or at the very least have them available to us if he flips town.

How is this hard to understand?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:13 GMT
#2514
On November 25 2012 04:08 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 25 2012 04:05 Dienosore wrote:
Is that so, clarity? Plan on whipping a up a mob against him hours before the noose drops, eh?


Totally.


Ok well, I'll be your first supporter then

##Vote: GoodKarma


He was talking about Kita, and my "totally" was rather sarcastic.
I don't deny the possibility I might switch but something would have to change in a big way for that to happen.

TC you are useless and I would argue with you if I thought we would get anywhere.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 19:48 GMT
#2534
Just skimmed his filter, there's quite a lack of scumhunting but he shares his thoughts and is rather useful other than that point, I'd say. You would lynch him over Sandro or Kita?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:02 GMT
#2540
I'll read his filter a bit closer, one of his latest posts I like quite a bit, it's still not scumhunting though, I admit:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2012 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Okay done reading. Marv looks definitely better d2 so I'll ignore him for now.
Sandroba looks the same way he did d2 so I still think he's the best way to go, not to mention that it's not that much time left.
So much for the changes for d1 to d2.

Drazerk looks like a madmen, like you guys said and well it's Drazerk.... Those people get shot and not lynched, it's as simple as that. A lynch on Drazerk is a (imo) random lynch as he could be doing that from both points of view and I don't have an idea what's going on in his head. Additionally I'd say that's probably not going to change that soon, which is why I'd say we let vigs deal with him, both to get rid of him and to make sure we don't have a Drazerk lynch that gives us 0 information while flipping like a dice role. The bad thing about lynching Drazerk is that anyone and their mom can hop on that lynch and say "herpa derp it's Drazerk, let's lynch him beacuse he's anti-town" and after the lynch we're in complete chaos because he either flipped red and everyone's pissed at those who thought he shouldn't be lynched because he's always like that or he's going to flip his chef / invoker thingie and people we don't get anything out of it because he was doing bullshit after all.
TL; dr: Don't lynch that guy, shoot him. Completly ignore him in all other regards.

Other than that I don't really like Chroniclers fashion of going after people. Can't help but feel that he thinks he needs to emphasize and point out very obvious things a lot. Could be me omgusing though, so I'd rather have some input from someone else about that.

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On November 25 2012 01:31 Dienosore wrote:
On November 24 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote:
screw that

##vote Sandro


I mapped you voting for sandro a long time ago. Why do you feel the need to vote him again, and in such a lackadaisical manner?

[...]



I didn't. On the start of d2 I said I'd like to vote for Sandro, maybe marv, went to the trainstation and was basicly afk for 24 hours. Now I'm back and gave a heads up on my current thoughts.
I usually don't feel the need to copy&paste what I said earlier if nothing changed but I can do that from now on if it you makes you feel better :p

I actually haven't understood your map yet, like Marv said I've been mainly mentioning Sand and him d1&d2 so far, maybe Keir a little d1 but I think I made it very clear that that was on purpose to get something going and I don't see arrows between Marv and me.
But than again who knows what arrow belongs to what person

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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:27 GMT
#2549
On November 25 2012 05:20 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, looks like Sandro is cruising for a modkill too.


Howso?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:32 GMT
#2553
On November 25 2012 05:30 Djodref wrote:
1)The wagon against sandro seems quite stupid to me.

I think we should better lynch CJ or some other lurker rather than sandroba. There are not so many things indicating clearly a mafia playee in sandroba filter.

I could lynch TheChronicler or CJ or Toad or risk.nuke.

2)Seriuously guys, sandroba has contributed in a more useful way than any of these guys...


1) Yes you've said this, a lot.
2) No he hasn't.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:38 GMT
#2559
Ehh.... okay. After going through his filter more thoroughly I can definitely see what you're saying, Acro.
I ask any town night actions to shoot Sandro.

##Vote Toadesstern
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:41 GMT
#2562
Although I realize that if Sandro is scum he would be bussed by his teammates, that fact that there has been ZERO defense of him other than people calling the wagon stupid makes me very paranoid.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:43 GMT
#2563
@ goodkarma

If you think they're both equal but you voted for Sandro first and that's why you stay, consider that Toad has actually stayed active but produced just as much content as Toad.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#2569
On November 25 2012 05:46 Acrofales wrote:
In fact, it's not just me. There are quite a number of people reluctant to vote him. And the "the wagon is retarded" defense IS a defense.

However, Toad is scum.


The fact that I don't even recall you trying to defend him should be indicative of how much I thought of it. Your case on Toad on the other hand makes a lot of sense.
"The wagon is retarded" is a terrible defense and more of an issue with wagons than an issue with lynching toad. People just don't want people to sheep their vote and go afk.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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