Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI

So I will re-hash old topics and this will be an extensive case. I did plenty of these as scum but the difference is I will be very clear and precise about my reads and what I think everything means.
I also might not quote the whole thing when referring to things because it is really hard to see the formatting in a word doc.
Why yamato is scum.

He wants to appear active without actually being active in the early stages of the game.

He goes on CC for playing without contributing saying “None of this reads town to me, at all.”

Then a soon as CC replies he folds beginning his first major post which is a defence. Ending with the conclusion of.

“
I'm on the fence about Mr. Cheesecake. His posting is still mostly defending himself, and attacking two players who posted early, me and Helo. That kind of behavior doesn't really indicate alignment, but if he keeps coming after me with posts that don't even address my concerns about him, I'm going to vote for him.

Most of what I've posted so far has been to get a reaction, and it has worked. How people answer questions and accusations are definitely tells.”

He has gone from doesn’t look like town to on the fence and also tries to prohibit CC from going after him with “if he keeps coming after me with posts that don't even address my concerns about him, I'm going to vote for him.”

However there is the “if he doesn’t address the concerns” part I will admit.

Then the hypocrisy.

In regards to oats he says this. “You want my opinion on Oats? He is probably just a bored townie early on because him giving some silly read is just to spark discussion on something.”
When before he said this regarding himself.
“Most of what I've posted so far has been to get a reaction, and it has worked. How people answer questions and accusations are definitely tells.”

Isn’t this the same thing? Why is it silly when oats says it and logical when he says it.

I’ll include this for his clarification but personally I don’t think it changes much.

Ok I started a case on kickstart then I thought hmm no helo is probably more scum and after reading a bit abandoned it in favour of a case on yamato after writing a bit about that I have been pointed to kick....

So here is the case on why kick is scum.
1. His meta is completely different, he has said many times meta isn’t good in newbie games but I find it very telling. (for example I can get a good grasp of a meta read on sdm and such)
From yamato...

“As far as reads on other people. Kickstarter's sheer aggression when defending Cheesecake against Oats is astounding. He uses vulgar language more than once and seems wholly preoccupied with Oats' vote being on CC. He doesn't even care if other people think Oats is scum necessarily, so why did he vote for him? The play doesn't really make sense because all he did was cause a whole lot of uproar over a play that no one else saw as scummy. If anything, THAT seems like a scum play.”

While you shouldn’t care if other people think someone is scummy as you don’t want to sheep oh great I just talked my way out of this case as well....

So I decided not to do long case in the night as it would one increase my chances of survival and to be honest I got lazy and figured the Nk could completely changed the dynamic so I decided to settle with this post.

The positive side assuming the doc saves Sdm then mafia has to nk someone else. This means that considering everyone else could be viewed as scum who they hit might reveal a lot of information. (since aqua was probably up until the lynch the scums next choice)

For example, in my opinion CC or I will die tonight (the oats dying scenario is below). This leaves oats, kick yamato and helos and whoever does die between us.

The other option is oats dies and with this reveals completely that sonic is town (due to saving him) Leaving CC who I still have a town read on which leaves kick yamato and helos. Which is actually the optimal situation in my opinion.
Also sdm mentioned a way to confirm oats scum or town, in my opinion this is a way to trick scum into killing him and he actually hasn’t a clue (sorry sonic) But if he does then the game is virtually over. (ok not quite but should be much easier)
Now you are probably thinking how does this help. Well, my feel reads in regard to lynch have been virtually all right (although no doubt I have annoyed some town with the more ambiguous ones)

For example I felt something was wrong with the monkey lynch but I ignored it and voted anyway. It’s obvious I felt something was wrong with aquas lynch but I weighted up the risks and I felt oats was more town. Also I decided we could probably get more information with 0 major risk if we lynched someone else. Although my oats read cannot be backed up yet but I hope it will be this nk.

So, in the first option saying I die. (although it will probably be CC) Sonic is town CC is town oats is town (although I have a list regarding particularly strange oats behaviour below) and yamato helo and kick are the candidates.

In the second option, I don’t need to list it as I will be alive ^^.

Some notes on oats, yeah he still is scum like. He seemed against working out if he is scum or town. He still isn’t helpful. But he felt town and watching the nk will probably help us with this.