Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI - Page 7

On December 02 2012 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
EBWOP:
First tag mess-up


oh wait why cant Jacob or me be scum?
BECAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO IS TOWN.

On December 02 2012 10:36 HeloKnight wrote:
Why Cheesecake is Scum:

First of all, Cheesecake made a post that "proves me" scum. I am in the same situation as him right now, because scum has to be two of Kickstart, yamato and Cheesecake. Since a Kickstart/yamato team is not likely, Cheesecake is 100% scum to me already. This post is to demonstrate to you all how Cheesecake is scum.

The Aqua Switch: At first, this didn't seem like something scum Cheesecake would do, but the reason for it is that he didn't think Aqua would actually get lynched. He thought he could get free town cred by going after Aqua d2, getting blue Oats lynched anyway, and then going after Aqua easy d3. Let's look at his reasons for voting Oats and then for starting the Aqua wagon:


So first he points out all of the problems with Oats' claim: super scummy play the whole game, no breadcrumb, attracting tons of suspicion, etc. But then he starts the Aqua wagon while all of those points still stand. All of his reasons for the Aqua wagon revolve around the real Doctor counter-claiming. But we specifically told the Doctor not to claim. SDM even made a long post about why the Doctor shouldn't claim that Cheesecake apparently didn't read:
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Of course the real Doctor wouldn't have counterclaimed, so there was NO reason to trust Oats' claim. Cheesecakes reasons for lynching Oats were still valid, but he starts the wagon on Aqua anyway. Scum reasons for this: get town cred, set up an easy Aqua mislynch tomorrow. Town reasons: ???. He is even insisting that it was a good idea now, when it clearly wasn't. He's constantly saying that he saved us from a blue mislynch, even though he had no reason to think that Oats was actually blue. He says that a Doctor would have claimed, but the Doctor was told not to claim. He is trying hard to look townie for starting the wagon when he never actually wanted Aqua lynched at all.
Also look at this super scummy quote he posted after Aqua flipped:



Attacking Me and The Munk-E Lynch: Cheesecake has been attacking me for a last minute vote switch.

He says it's "damning" to justify my vote by saying I had little time, when he did the exact same thing to justify his switch onto Munk-E. He also misrepresents the amount of time I had to decide, which I have already explained.

Also note that he says that "we can blame the mislynch on him". The only possible purpose of this is to seem more townie by being "honest" and "taking responsibility". However, when it stops working in his favor, he of course redacts that statement:

In addition, he says that the Munk-E lynch was completely my fault, not his. This contradicts his previous statement about taking responsibility for the mislynch and throws suspicion on me for my lurker vote, even though he said in his first post that he was fine with lynching a lurker:

As I've said before, no viable scum read presented itself to me d1. So why would a town Cheesecake attack me for doing exactly what he said was good to do in his opening post?

In Conclusion: Cheesecake is scum because he:
- starts the Aqua wagon while having no reason to trust Oats' claim
- touts how townie he is for starting the Aqua wagon
- ignores the fact that the Doctor was being told not to counterclaim
- attacks me for a last-minute vote switch after last-minute switching to Munk-E
- takes responsibility for the Munk-E lynch for no reason, and then says it was my fault
- blames me for the Munk-E lynch, even though I did exactly what he said we should do in his first post

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake