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Not sure if serious. We know nothing from your assertion that one might flip green and another might flip blue, all we have is your word. So to say that my votes were worse, when WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU GOT TWO TOWNIES LYNCHED, is complete just stupid.
And NO, TOWN READS AREN"T FUCKING IMPORTANT, what is important is SCUM READS. And that is who my votes have been on, who I think are scum.
I seriously don't know how you can equate my votes - on two people who I thought were scummy and made decent cases against:
to your votes - sheeping onto anyone who isn't you and providing no good reasons for the vote itself - both resulting in that person getting lynched and flipping town.
They are hardly the same and I would rather have my record than yours.
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SDM has this horrible tendency to go "this person doesn't think about this situation like I do therefore I think they are scummy" ...
But yeah that Aqua lynch was like the most horrible thing I've ever seen and it seems all the people involved just up and ditched the thread.
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So my case against Yamato is just a copy and paste of what Munk-E posted? That is a blatant lie SDM so either you are lying or didn't read it. And I would put my case against Yamato up against any of yours. And I will look at the events, am I goign to hop to it right this moment, probably not. But I looked at the Day1 events and produced a decent case from it and intend to do the same for this Day2. Seems you are just venting and being awfully defensive at me for calling your vote on Aqua shit - so I will let it slide I guess, since it was pretty shit.
Come to think of it there wasn't really anything important or true in your post worth responding to. I am sort of wondering why I bothered.
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I can read the thread and see how it went down - poorly.
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That was in response to Oats but I can see all of you who got Aqua lynched are just being retarded at the moment so I will just let you be.
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Yes I agree that the thread has degenerated a bit, and I am probably a large cause of that. Would probably do me and others some good to take some time and chill out. Just for formalities since night is over soon, my prime scum reads at the moment are Yamato and Oats, not much has changed. I will say that Oats claim and there not being any counterclaim thus far works in his favor, but I still think overall his play and posting is very scummy - I just hope that again, if he is town, he starts playing like it. Yamato for the case I already made on him, I think I can add to that case with some of the Day 2 stuff but to be honest I don't feel like making a case at the moment (but SDM basically sums it up, and I said it earlier than Yamatos attitude towards Oats claim was a bit off in my opinion).
I know this isn't really the type of posting we need right now and promise if I am around Day 3 I will make new (or add to) cases. Just thought I should get my current thoughts out there with this night period winding down.
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Now even our hosts are slacking :[. This game going to shit.
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maybe scum Nked the hosts? WHERE ARE U HOSTS?
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Well, can't say that was entirely unexpected. We really have to step up our game and find scum. I am going to get some rest now and delve deeper into this when I wake up.
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First off I see Oats has made another one of his cases on me, a meta case at that. This is my second game, and my first game I was in a pretty "high-level" game, looking at how I played in my first game, when I had no idea what I was doing and when I was NOT in a noobie friendly game is not going to give you any information.
The reason I sat on Oats was because I felt he was scum, everything leading up to his claim and even his claim was scummy to me. Now I have to admit that it is very unlikely he lied (due to there never being a counter claim) and that I beleive he is the Doctor. At the time he was scummy (and Aqua was never really scummy to me, definitely not more so than players like Yamato, Jacob, Helo), so had I been awake I was not going to vote Aqua anyways. I have and will continue putting my vote on who I think is the scum.
And so what if I have only pushed my Oats and Yamato scum reads, they are who I found most scummy. Oats not anymore but still Yamato. Did I think other players were scummy? Yes. But those two stuck out for the entire game so that is who I focused on. I am really not going to defend my consistent voting record against all of your emotional last minute vote swapping that keeps getting townies killed. Again my vote always has, and always will be on my top scumreads.
As for a nolynch I am not so sure, my immediate thought is that it gives scum more time (because they will still get to use their NKs), on the other hand - if we have a cop, and he has found/can find both scum, then he can present his findings and the game is basically won.
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You are being retarded. I said that I would not have voted Aqua, but I would maybe have voted someone who I actually felt was scummy. And if I had a read on someone after you did so the fuck what, I presented a large and pretty good case on Yamato (and feel there is more to add if I don't have to spend the entirety of this day period responding to questions and defending myself against stupid logic).
As for Helo, earlier I had a null read on him due to him not saying much. Since then he has continued to not be around much and he was involved in the whole Aqua lynch (he is probably the most suspicious vote out of the entire thing), the fact that I still look at him and say "eh not much to go on" is sort of an indictment in itself. So I would say he is scummy. I will still be pushing on Yamato because he is still my strongest scum read and I can make a strong case on him I feel.
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And getting a townie killed in a 30-minute till deadline shitty vote swap is not an amazing play. The fact that you are sticking to this is scummy as fuck - especially since you were the first to switch, in effect pushing the lynch off of Oats and onto Aqua. I care about who is lynched too, that is why I am pissed you lynched a townie with some of the most shit reasons and antics I have ever seen. So for you to say that I don't care about who gets lynched when you fucking got a townie killed and are spouting that it was some fucking amazing play is something I won't stand for. You aren't going to tell me I don't care about who gets lynched, when you have gotten two townies lynched so far and even pushed the lynch on the second one who wasn't scummy at all - seriously fuck you.
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I am not putting the blame on you because there are lots of people responsible, but you said it exactly right - that hitting scum would have been better, and in my opinion Aqua was not a scummy player and not someone I would have voted for.
For now all I have to say is be wary of anyone (LIKE CHEESE) saying they know who the scum are, because if you vote with him and are wrong (he is actually scum) then you fucking lose. His play recently is really suspicious to me, starts a wagon onto a town, gets the townie lynched, and then uses it as town cred and goes around making some absurd statement that he made an amazing D2 play and uses this position to push a vote onto anyone but himself - I call bullshit.
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Again, many people are to blame for both lynches, and yes I think you are right, Helo was the first to vote Munk-E. I don't know who your scumbuddy would be or if you are even scum. I am just saying to everyone to not be too hasty to buy whatever anyone is selling right now, because if we don't hit scum this time we lose. (atm it is 4v2, we myslynch it is 3v2. scum get a NK off and it is 2v2 and they win). This is the most important day period of the game.
I have to run some errands, when I get back I will start looking into certain people. Just wanted to let everyone know the importance of getting this right.
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Oats is still scummy as shit all game, but with no counterclaim I would not want to chance lynching him now without something extremely solid saying he is scum (like maybe a DT check or something - but even then he could have been framed). I still stick with my point that cheese trying really hard to push a lynch after he randomly claimed town cred for himself after a shit lynch is highly suspicious - and if we had more proof that Oats could be scum then that is a pretty tight case against them.
ON THAT NOTE: IF THERE IS A COP AND YOU HAVE INFO ON SOMEONE, THIS LYNCH WOULD BE THE TIME TO REVEAL IT.
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Lets not be silly when so much is on the line Jacob. I obviously thought Oats was scummy all fucking game. I didn't just now mention it because you "called me out on it". I've been ragging on oats all fucking game and my vote stuck on him because he is scummy as shit. [if your last post wasn't directed at me ignore all of that]
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I have good cases, better than most of you left. I really can't take you seriously on the most important lynch vote you are going to push a meta case on me? And if there is a cop and he does have information then he should claim, dunno how you can use that against me.
I am still leaning towards cheese at the moment. His stupid Aqua vote and then all that filth he spouted afterwards were pretty ridiculous, he was trying to pull a fast vote pile onto someone banking that Oats and Jacob would sheep him. Plus now that everyone has pointed out how stupid he is for saying that aqua incident was some godlike town play he has shutup and about it.
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That is why I said I would drop the Oats shit for now unless some more information is brought forth.
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Are you daft, they say the exact same thing. Can you please make serious posts with so much riding on this day period.
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I really don't need to say anything else. You thought that that was a good play AND that Oats is/was 100% confirmed.... really?
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