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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 15:56 GMT
#869
Everyone wants to lynch you -_-, you just fucked us by your play all game and now even more so because we are forced to weigh if your claim is enough to excuse your play. This shitstorm is entirely your fault.

(I'm really not trying to be an asshole but you have really thrown a wrench into things, I don't even know what to think anymore - I'm going to have to chill so I can make a rational vote come lynch time).
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 16:00 GMT
#876
What in the world are you talking about SDM.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 16:02 GMT
#879
I would like for you to make a point if you are going to accuse me of being scummy. I have no idea what you are talking about but don't shit up the discussion with more confusing shit - we have enough of that right now.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 16:02 GMT
#880
Oats shut up.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 16:04 GMT
#885
So me being confused at these events is scummy? the fuck is this you trying to be serious? I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SHOW ME SOMEONE WHO ISNT CONFUSED, or better yet tell me why the fuck it isnt confusing - because if you can make sense of all of this and have a clear plan of action I would love for you to explain it to me.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 16:08 GMT
#890
But if I am being charged with making things confusing I resent that 100%, I have tried everything to be clear in both my actions and reasoning and have tried to steer the discussion towards finding scum. All I did in those two posts was say that this situation is confusing and that I need time to think about it ,I didn't cause any confusion - seriously wtf.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 16:14 GMT
#899
Now I am pissed at Oats and SDM so I can't make sense of shit atm.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 17:14 GMT
#948
I already admitted I am bad at following this kind of argument about role possibilities and such, but I agree that Oats has been scummy and that him claiming blue does nothing in terms of making any of his actions any less scummy but I am having a really hard time justifying lynching a claimed blue when there is no evidence that he is lying about it. Can you maybe more succinctly say why just lynching him is the best option - because I am not following you and am hesitant about doing something like that.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 18:00 GMT
#951
Makes sense. Yeah, a counterclaim would do no good - it would confirm/deny Oats' claim but also out the blue claiming.

##vote: Oatsmaster
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 12:57 GMT
#1247
Right well, I just ended up going to bed because nothing was going on and it looked like Oats was 100% gone. Then you guys just all switched to Aqua and got him lynched....based on shit arguments at that - none of those cases in the last hour had any weight to them it was all stupid. Of all the people left you guys thought Aqua was the scummiest....
I am kind of baffled by all of you who switched now.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 13:04 GMT
#1249
Will have to go back through and look at all the vote switches and why. And instead of asking everyone else who is scum, you go find some since you get to stick around due to Aqua getting lynched.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 13:06 GMT
#1250
Before I even look into it much I am not sure there will be much to find. If Oats is blue then mafia would have been beyond content to sit on him, so I can think of no reason they would have wanted to switch to Aqua. On the other hand we now know that Aqua was town, we aren't 100% sure of Oats. Anyways I'll take a look at it regardless - others should do the same to see if any sense can be made of it.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 13:17 GMT
#1252
A possibility sure, but I am not so sure. You have to remember that everyone had their votes on you at one point, so why would they question someone who didn't switch it. Especially when the switch was onto a townie... I could make arguments for days on why you would have been a better lynch than Aqua, now if the 2nd option would have been someone who had been the least bit scummy this game the argument might be different. But for whatever reason you guys switched your votes onto someone who was like... one of the least suspicious this game. Anyways whats done is done, just felt the need to let you all know how stupid that was.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 13:27 GMT
#1254
Possibly, or he thought you were scummier than Aqua - which I think even after the lynch no one would disagree with, you are still scummier than Aqua was. You may be right about your point, but it isn't the only possible reason for someone switching their vote. You are right that Helo seemed entirely reluctant to do it, but I think that is the normal reaction, I am more interested in the people who switched their vote onto Aqua without any hesitation about it.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 13:55 GMT
#1256
not a contradiction. I meant that being reluctant to switch is the normal reaction. You are making no sense at all with that post - although given your history this game that is no surprise. me saying that MAFIA would be content to sit on you, and then saying that helo seemed reluctant to move his vote from you to Aqua is in no way a contradiction. What are you even talking about.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 14:44 GMT
#1258
You can't follow a simple conversation can you. I said if you are blue and the mafia thought this they would be content to sit on you. The fact that they may not have (due to so many people switching over to Aqua for really, really shit reasons) is suspicious (meaning maybe you aren't blue, or they know something that we don't). AT LEAST HELO SHOWED SOME RESERVATIONS TO JUST THROWING HIS VOTE ON AQUA (this doesn't clear him, but compared to you other morons who just voted Aqua and touted it like it was some novel idea, him not being 100% comfortable with it doesn't make him scummy).
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 14:45 GMT
#1259
Anyways I am done with this, take your own advice and go find some scum Oats.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 14:54 GMT
#1262
Epic scumslip where, you are being retarded again. If you are going to claim there is a scumslip then at least fucking quote it. Just because you got away with claiming a blue role with no evidence doesn't mean you can claim I made a scumslip with no evidence. I didn't say anyone was cleared, but I would say that the people who just voted for Aqua in the last half hour are more suspicious to me.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 14:56 GMT
#1263
I would start to investigate Yamato if you had flipped blue because of his only comment towards your claim ("lynch him regardless of the claim" he said). I have said that Oats and Yamato are my top scumreads all game and have made pretty good cases against both of them I believe. Unfortunately they are still here because the majority of people in this thread like making silly votes.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 30 2012 15:05 GMT
#1266
I agree that an association case between you and Yamato is basically impossible, doesn't mean you aren't both scummy. And again I never really had a single "case" post against you, it is more a combination of everything I said to/about you.

And frankly I don't give a shit what you think. Because D1 your vote was on Munk-E, who flipped town. D2 your vote was on Aqua, who flipped town. At this point whatever you think I am inclined to think the exact opposite. At least when I vote I put my votes on who I think is the scum.
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