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But they won't plan their night actions as he will post it right before the night post before they have time to respond. | ||
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I even had dreams about kick scum slipping by posting graphs that were somehow linked to the scum qt. However the aqua lynch while bad might end up in our favor. | ||
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On December 01 2012 08:51 Kickstart wrote: I can read the thread and see how it went down - poorly. Thanks captain obvious! This is useful information! | ||
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With Sdm dead and the possibility of role blocker my end of day post probably isn't as reliable but it was going to be this. However I didn't even think about sdm dying. HOWEVER, With sdm not being saved I would say that helps oats town ness due to if there was another medic (who decided not to role claim) they wouldn't have been role blocked. The only other possibility is if we have a role blocker who happened to hit the scum that was carrying out the hit and they changed who carried the hit out. (note I am only posting the end of night post now so you know I was actually away) + Show Spoiler + So I decided not to do long case in the night as it would one increase my chances of survival and to be honest I got lazy and figured the Nk could completely changed the dynamic so I decided to settle with this post. The positive side assuming the doc saves Sdm then mafia has to nk someone else. This means that considering everyone else could be viewed as scum who they hit might reveal a lot of information. (since aqua was probably up until the lynch the scums next choice) For example, in my opinion CC or I will die tonight (the oats dying scenario is below). This leaves oats, kick yamato and helos and whoever does die between us. The other option is oats dies and with this reveals completely that sonic is town (due to saving him) Leaving CC who I still have a town read on which leaves kick yamato and helos. Which is actually the optimal situation in my opinion. Also sdm mentioned a way to confirm oats scum or town, in my opinion this is a way to trick scum into killing him and he actually hasn’t a clue (sorry sonic) But if he does then the game is virtually over. (ok not quite but should be much easier) Now you are probably thinking how does this help. Well, my feel reads in regard to lynch have been virtually all right (although no doubt I have annoyed some town with the more ambiguous ones) For example I felt something was wrong with the monkey lynch but I ignored it and voted anyway. It’s obvious I felt something was wrong with aquas lynch but I weighted up the risks and I felt oats was more town. Also I decided we could probably get more information with 0 major risk if we lynched someone else. Although my oats read cannot be backed up yet but I hope it will be this nk. So, in the first option saying I die. (although it will probably be CC) Sonic is town CC is town oats is town (although I have a list regarding particularly strange oats behaviour below) and yamato helo and kick are the candidates. In the second option, I don’t need to list it as I will be alive ^^. Some notes on oats, yeah he still is scum like. He seemed against working out if he is scum or town. He still isn’t helpful. But he felt town and watching the nk will probably help us with this. | ||
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CALLED IT, man I'm good... | ||
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On December 01 2012 13:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually, metareading kick, He is the second scum.. Going purely off meta he is the scummiest person in the game been saying this since day one. | ||
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The only way we can have a doctor is if we don't have a jk claim. At this point in the game Jk may as well claim we are at mylo and we need all the info we can get. If we have no jk then we can be sure oats is the doctor. Also if we had a jk sonic would still be alive. Look at his end on night post the logic is perfect. No doc claim no jk claim. This is assuming two blue roles but it makes the most sense. (and lets be honest we 100% would have a doc or a jk if we only had one blue role (due to no nk night one)) While he has been playing horribly he isn't scum and his claim must be right. (if you are jk or doc claim now) Second point we can use time to our advantage. A no lynch is best for town (assuming it is mylo not lylo) This gives us three days (including what is left of this one to find and be sure of scum) Now you might be thinking, but we will lose a town in the processes. Yes but the longer and the less people there are the better. Also we still have the doc. They have to kill the doc or someone who isn't the most town player. (because doc would save the most town player) this gives us MONUMENTAL information. (and if he does we can keep no lynching until they hit someone sure the game will drag out but trust me to win it will be worth it) The way I see it scum would have to pull the greatest feat of all time to win this one. So Look at my logic oats is town, any objections? Second No lynch is best for town as it proves oats innocent or removes a non confirmed townie. This would leave us with oats who is already basicly proven innocent and at least one other strong town. (we have 6 players with no lynch it comes down to 5, 2 of those would be confirmed town (whoever oats says he saved which he should post the minute before nk)) At this point the cop should come out with all his bread crumbed reads (if we have a cop) and the game is won. three confirmed town (assuming cop isn't killed and that we have one) If any of this doesn't make sense let me know, at the moment I think kick and helos are the scum and I will explain why after I finish things and make my cases. | ||
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Also seemed my post was so good it crashed TL what was that? | ||
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Although with the no lynch strat they have to kill the doc with this strat. Anyway I think it's perfect. and yes I will get around to the cases just when I have all the time in the world to do it in (assuming everyone agrees with a no lynch I want to make sure everyone understands what I am saying now completely before continuing) | ||
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On December 01 2012 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote: COP CLAIM IF YOU WANT, DONT CLAIM IF YOU DONT WANT TO. Ok Jacob stop talking about cop claiming. Oats logic, on the very last day where if we lynch wrong we lose if we have a cop he should 100% claim. But he shouldn't claim now if he doesn't want to but yes I will stop talking about it now. I have also realized that without sonic and aqua there isn't anyone on to talk to at this point in time. Either way the one thing we should 100% do is vote no lynch. ##Vote: No Lynch | ||
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Yeah yamato isn't dying lol, I want yamatos opinion reading what I said confirming oats as town do you still have the same opinion of CC? I think Aquas lynch considering we can confirm oats was probably in the long run the best thing that could have happened. (besides hitting scum) Now I know I have been against you all game but try to put that aside. Sonic was with me on this and if you don't trust me trust sonic. | ||
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On December 02 2012 01:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Im pretty sure he cant, thats why no claim, I am also wary of a framer if I am the cop. Anyway, what do you think about kickstarts switch in meta? The whole framer thing would make perfect sense to the cops actions (yes didn't manage to sleep) Was trying to reset schedule but I have worked out a way to almost prove the cop as a cop depending in the reads he gives (this is completely assuming he exists and I want to be ambiguous for now but it makes even more sense. Oats you have revealed the way. I didn't realize about the framing but now all this work makes sense. | ||
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