Ok. Couple of thoughts without looking back.

The assumption that everyone who jumped on hapa is town is bad.
Odds are, the last two people who jumped on hapa are town.
To me it seems likely that there is scum in the first couple of people jumping on hapa, because they didn't expect (like me) him to get lynched. Easy townie points with nearly no risk.

Marv was unusually quiet near the end.
BH said jump on hapa, lol jk wait d2, lol lets jump on hapa ##vote Hapa. Now he's claiming town credit? Ehhh....

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:25 GMT

#1487

Darth, are you still suspicious of me?

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:29 GMT

#1495

You wouldn't do either, you're not SK.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:30 GMT

#1496

Marv where are you. Even if you are flabbergasted please at least comment.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:37 GMT

#1501

It would be rather odd for scum to jump on hapa that late, yes. But confirmed? No.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:39 GMT

#1507

On November 15 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:

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he was the hammer vote wasn't he?

Yes.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:41 GMT

#1514

Hapa wasn't pushing you at all. He pointed out the fact that you posted a case on me at a dumb time, but if not him a townie would have. He just wanted the easy townie points.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:43 GMT

#1517

Did anyone know that Darth was the hammer vote until Dandel posted the votecount? I wasn't sure who had more votes at the end.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 02:50 GMT

#1529

Darth is leaning town, hammer vote or no. He looked like a townie going down all the way.
I don't like saying confirmed. Even if I loved saying confirmed, he's not confirmed. Do not get shit like that in your heads.
I don't like the way we got there but a scum lynch is a victory in my book, and with the constant shitstorm for an hour or so there's bound to be incriminating stuff.

I'm going to bed, it's 4 am. Night all.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 12:47 GMT

#1549

On November 15 2012 10:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I still don't like Hapa at all. He seems way too straight-laced for his normal town play. Anyone want to lynch him?

On November 15 2012 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm like not really serious about lynching hapa, btw, we shouldn't be switching this close to the deadline

On November 15 2012 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:

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yeah basically this

On November 15 2012 10:55 Blazinghand wrote:

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##FoS: Hapa

Let's get a count of who's in. FOS him if you are willing to vote him.

On November 15 2012 10:56 Blazinghand wrote:
You know what, fuck it, let's vote him. I'll go back to ZB if need be.

##unvote

##vote: Hapa

I just don't get this series of events. I agree that the "scumslip" thing was suspicious but we were waaaayy too close to deadline.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 12:48 GMT

#1550

And this is coming from a claimed JK who is now claiming VT. With his reasoning being that he wouldn't be active. Only he was.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 12:54 GMT

#1552

The dumbest part for me is that I asked him to post his night action

On November 15 2012 11:17 Blazinghand wrote:

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Absolutely. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Then a mere 3.5 hours later he posts

On November 15 2012 14:54 Blazinghand wrote:
And I know you guys are gonna hate me for thus, but uh, yeah, I'm not a JK. Monday I had some family issues come up and it meant I wouldn't have much time to play through today, so I had to fake claim. Thursday and onwards I'm free though. Of course everyone is gonna be like super mad at me for this, but it worked, okay? Okay.

Why would a VT blazinghand want to answer my question so quickly and with so much conviction if he planned on spilling the beans on his claim.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 13:07 GMT

#1554

Okay well.... this hurts my brain. I don't see a motivation for any alignment or role. Either he's putting too much value on himself as town or he's making a really dumb play as scum. Yes, he saved himself D1, but he's just sewing chaos all over the place.

Today I won't be as active. I'll actually be around, but playing some dota2/cs:go, will check the thread inbetween, and will ofcourse post reads before night ends just in case.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 13:12 GMT

#1556

Oki doki.

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Netherlands6826 Posts

November 15 2012 13:20 GMT

#1558

Can you find a scum angle on backing out of your claim during N1? It's major WIFOM at best. Which actually makes me think it would be a good move for scum, since trying to keep your story straight as scum JK is hard.

We have quite a bit of time, I'll mull it over.