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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:52 GMT
#2530
Town, don't let the other lynches be this lonely. Guy's dying, he needs comfort.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:52 GMT
#2531
Also, please read my huge wall'o text. Please try harder. This was a shameful day.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#2532
There open fanes and gaping graves
Yawn level with the luminous waves,
But not the riches there that lie
Within each idol's diamond eye,
Not the gaily-jeweled dead
Tempt the waters from their bed,
For no ripples curl, alas!
Along that wilderness of glass,
No swellings tell that winds may be
Upon some far-off happier sea,
No heavings hint that winds have been
On seas less hideously serene.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:55 GMT
#2534
He is a cold one, knows no love.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:57 GMT
#2537
iamp,
this game is to your 2k as it has been to my one.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:57 GMT
#2539
Nice of you to show. I'll see you in the afterlife soon enough.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:59 GMT
#2543
^^^read my wall-o-texts after I die.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 01:59 GMT
#2546
For lo, a stir is in the air!
The wave--there is a movement there!
As if the towers cast aside
In slightly sinking, the dull tide;
As if their tops had feebly given
A void within the filmy heaven.
The waves have now a redder glow;
The hours are breathing faint and low.
And when, amid no earthly moans,
Down, down that town shall settle hence,
Hell, rising from a thousand thrones,
Shall do it reverence.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 18 2012 02:00 GMT
#2549
GG
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 02:26 GMT
#3627
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 21:15 GMT
#3758
DJO, WHY?????
Come on, I was actually cheering for you. You had a completely viable chance of winning this game. Only DP really thought you scum... God damn, dude!
I felt so pissed town actually managed to lynch Clarity (marv's and mine top townread) and actually considered lynching DP, in an apology to marv's top townread and my 99.99% confidence town read on him. I got so frustrated watching town derp hardcore, I decided to root for scum lol

You really, really shouldn't have conceded...
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 21:21 GMT
#3761
But anyways, well played :D

Hopeless gains the LVP trophy here. Confirmed town, blindly sheeping his vote on me, and just chilling without trying to do shit this late stage of game. Seriously, what bad play. Everyone else was trying to figure shit out. Gah

I really liked this town day one though, insane activity made it tough for scum to hide in. All three scum members were completely discernable from after day one (with the exception of SnB imo... took me a while to get a townread from him), which is something that I've never seen happen before.

We got a bit (a fucking lot) lucky on hapa's lynch, but this was one hell of a day 1for town, and I'm impressed.

Will comment more later.

GG!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#3765
On November 23 2012 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
But anyways, well played :D

Hopeless gains the LVP trophy here. Confirmed town, blindly sheeping his vote on me, and just chilling without trying to do shit this late stage of game. Seriously, what bad play. Everyone else was trying to figure shit out. Gah

I really liked this town day one though, insane activity made it tough for scum to hide in. All three scum members were completely discernable from after day one (with the exception of SnB imo... took me a while to get a townread from him), which is something that I've never seen happen before.

We got a bit (a fucking lot) lucky on hapa's lynch, but this was one hell of a day 1for town, and I'm impressed.

Will comment more later.

GG!

A trophy's a trophy I guess...


Seriously though, why did you down your game so much after day one? I know you as a capable player, especially from LVII...
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 22:31 GMT
#3782
On November 23 2012 07:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:55 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:47 Keirathi wrote:
Oh yea, so I wanted to comment on this to DP since I told him I would:

Z-BosoN should have never been lynched. That was such lazy thinking by everyone in the town.

So, the godfather is lynched day 1. Then, during the night, marv is screaming for the vig to shoot BH (the claimed JK). If ZB was scum, he would know that BH was in fact town, and probably have deduced that BH wasn't lying about the JK claim, and would let the BH vig go through. Instead, ZB comes into the thread saying "No no no no. Don't shoot BH, shoot [my other partner] Crossfire!" Scum just doesn't do that. Period, end of story. Maybe scum ZB would have bussed him the next day, but he would 100% want the vig to waste a shot on a townie rather than his teammate.

I fully considered this and STILL thought the WIFOM bomb theory made sense.

Well, you had already sent in the shot on Crossfire even before he said it, so props to you. But, I still think it was a terrible lynch, and by far the worst wagon of the game.


Even if we didn't have a vig and we ended up lynching crossfire, I legitimately thought Z-bo was on pace to bus both his teammates before Day 2 started when I was content to sit back and watch him get lynched.


Also it's not like I 100% bussed hapa. I clearly told you guys to lynch him day 2. Why is it necessarily a WIFOM bomb if at least 6 people agreed with Hapa being scum??. So much in fact that he actually got lynched over me. You think I foresaw this? Why doesn't it make sense that I also found him scum (on the same reasoning rest of town did) and genuinely wanted town to kill him day two?

Seriously, why in gods name is me telling to kill a scum the next day more likely WIFOM than a genuine read? And STILL, if you really really think it's WIFOM, great, but you can't use that as an argument.

Seriously... I said this in-thread a 100 times. Does it make sense that I can be a WIFOMing bussing scum? Yes, it does. Is it more likely than me actually getting my reads right? Not a chance in hell, no.

All this of course, with an explained meta case WITH EVIDENCE! evidence you guys chose to ignore because you guys got lazy and decided not to read.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 22:44 GMT
#3785
On November 23 2012 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually did read it, I just felt like lynching you was the right move anyways. It's not like we had a huge chance of losing anyways after D1/N1


Exactly. Lazy lazy lazy
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 22:56 GMT
#3789
On November 23 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
What, I thought you said I didn't read it therefore I'm lazy, then I said I read it but disagreed and that's also lazy? Is it possible you just weren't very convincing?


You weren't lazy to read nor to pursue me. You half-heartedly tried tackling my arguments, but at least were the only one that tried.
However, you were lazy to think. I swear I tried picturing the cases against me as non-biased as possible, but seriously, nothing else aside from meta made any sense.

You also just implicitly said you weren't too worried about getting it wrong here.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 23:03 GMT
#3794
On November 23 2012 08:01 Blazinghand wrote:
I put like infinitely more effort into this game after the end of N1 then I did before the start of N1. Call me mistaken, bad, or whatever, but if you call me lazy you're simply wrong.


You disagree with this?

On November 23 2012 08:00 Keirathi wrote:
No, I think lazy is more appropriate than dumb. You weren't worried about being wrong since town was so far ahead, so you didn't put as much effort into getting it right as you could have and just went with your first instinct.

Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 23:08 GMT
#3799
On November 23 2012 08:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah it's a lazy mindset, but that's my mindset now looking back on it. At the time, I thought ZB was scum and I lynched him. It was a mistake, but in retrospect, we weren't gonna lose anyways.


But you came dangerously dangerously close to that. Djo could actually have pulled it off.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 23:11 GMT
#3803
On November 23 2012 08:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Z-B, I worked quite hard after N1 to do my best to pin down the last scum. My case on you was mistaken, but it was extensively-researched and almost certainly not lazy. In retrospect, I should have realized you were town-- but hindsight is, as they say, 20/20. I'll do better next time.

I like to take a critical view of my own play, and I recommend you join me in doing so so we can both do better next time.


I've no problem with that dude. To me it seemed like you had a lazy mindset and your later comments on how "town was already doing great" kinda indicate that you weren't giving your 100%.

Also, I'm extremely open about my play, I love receiving advice. If you have any suggestions, I'll gladly take them.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 23:15 GMT
#3809
On November 23 2012 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 08:08 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah it's a lazy mindset, but that's my mindset now looking back on it. At the time, I thought ZB was scum and I lynched him. It was a mistake, but in retrospect, we weren't gonna lose anyways.


But you came dangerously dangerously close to that. Djo could actually have pulled it off.


Yes, we did come rather close to it-- with only 2 lynches left and two players to lynch into, I'm SURE Djo had a chance.

What suggestions do you have for my play going forwards to avoid this in the future?


Well, possibly reading more into the dead people. I found Clarity's lynch to be extreeeemely stupid as well. I also was screaming Djodref scum when I died, surely I had a reason?

Aside from that I can't really say much, you had issues IRL and weren't playing like I've seen you play.
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