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On November 16 2012 10:56 Blazinghand wrote: I hereby claim all town cred when crossfire flips scum Bitch that cred is mine | ||
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On November 14 2012 22:16 Hopeless1der wrote: Let me just say this once. Fuck off debears. Nothing personal, but in all seriousness OMGUS. I'm still your scum read because I've done nothing since you laid into me for 'lecturing town'. If you still want to harp on that chord, you're not being a good little townie. I was afk for longer than you were, and you have nothing new to post in the thread. I'll lay this out for you. This is the post I was "lecturing" about: I was not lecturing everyone, I was responding to a single post and listing multiple examples of less than stellar reasons to vote for someone. I was told to drop it with you so you could focus on the rest of the game instead, because I was distracting you from being useful. And yet I'm still your top scum read and iamperfection is still the only other player you'll really talk about. You haven't commented on anything significant (neither have I yet, but fuck it, you're already voting me) I dont give a shit what your IRL issues are, same as you probably dont care why I was gone. I care that you claim that there are no better cases than the one on me when you have no new information and are just stuck on the fact that I'm afk and therefore avoiding you. What's more, you aren't even pushing me as your scum read. Yes this is an OMGUS vote. ##Vote: debears Am I going to need to pull a BH and shoot my load earl--I mean sift through my own meta to find examples of me being a jackass? Btw debears, why in the hell were you unable/unwilling to comment on BH's claim? "shoot" referring to vig shot On November 16 2012 04:20 Hopeless1der wrote: Crossfire in the crosshairs, we get it team. The shot itself. Also, I was about to shoot clarity, but a) actually thought my case wasn't terrible and b) cross looked like a way better shot. On November 16 2012 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote: Uhh....reading your filter is worth a shot, I guess. brb | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:01 Clarity_nl wrote: Hopeless could still be SK, btw. Anyway, it was a good night for us. I could be...but its hella unlikely. | ||
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If I was scum, I just shot another scum, or SOMEONE ELSE shot cross, and I just happened to breadcrumb the right player by some miracle. | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Wait, you were gonna shoot me? The hell. I was, I still think you're scummy. I need to reread just in case, but yes, I was going to shoot you. | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:13 debears wrote: Convenient? If he is JK, which mafia should have believed the whole time if he is town, would have to rb him... This means Kamek remains, and it is unlikely that an SK exists. I'm off to setup speculation land. Also: *CONFIRMATION BIAS GOGGLES* On November 15 2012 10:06 Crossfire99 wrote: Yeah, so I just started to write the below post at school when the internet crapped out on me + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bZXRx.jpg) I don't know if the mafia way requires more assumptions. Even if it does and "seems" like the least likely option it might not be. I'll give you two examples from my two recent games. In Aperature 2, the godfather was lynched day 1 with 4 votes with me being the hammer. It was plurality lynch with 13 players. There was assumed to be a 3 man scum team (which there was btw, even if there was only a 2 man scum team, my point still holds). I wasn't scum (I was 3rd party) and I assumed that there was no way that the other 3 guys were scum. It made no sense to me because all they had to do was switch off onto someone else with 2 votes before I voted (I voted very late day 1 IIRC), and then that guy was going to be lynched. It turns out there was a scum bussing the godfather day 1 because of extenuating irl circumstances for the godfather. In my last game, WLIIA, strong claimed blue night 1 as scum and we all believed him because his name claim matched with the other blues in the game. I even made a post attacking the two remaining "non confirmed" townies in the game because one of them had to be scum. Even though they both played really townie and I said so in my cases on them, it still was the "most likely" solution. It turns out it wasn't the case and I eventually began to doubt strong's claim, which was the right thing to do. Both of those examples show that just because something seems "more likely" doesn't mean it is so. We don't know what is going on in the mafia qt, so we just have to look for scummy behavior. We have found scummy behavior in blazing. Strong went over this in the post listed below. + Show Spoiler + On November 14 2012 23:06 strongandbig wrote: that sir is what's called "pushing your luck" BH posted this after reading exactly the same explanation from DP that I read, and exactly the same comments on DP's meta from marv as I read, and doing exactly the same amount of work looking into DP's actual scum/town meta as I did (none) - and yet he comes up with a vote? Without at all addressing the points from Marv and from himself about DP's meta? And without addressing the other game in progress issue - which isn't an "unverifiable irl excuse," we can go look at the thread - and yet he comes up with a vote? guys what we have out of BH is not just a scummy and needless claim - we have a scummy and needless claim from a player who isn't playing up to his usual town standard in several ways - bad cases - trolling/fluff while taking the easy opportunity to gain points by attacking other people for fluff and most importantly - the huge mismatch in thread presence, thread control, and town organization between BH's last town game (whose line) and this game And then we have BH psychology: he just saw me do well - not win, except for self-declaring victory, but do much better than I should have given how the game started out - he saw me do well by fakeclaiming blue and then really pushing that fakeclaim hard. He also just had what I assume must be a trollgasm from evoking ridiculous reactions from Keirathi in that same game. Now he's claimed blue for no good reason, and it's a blue role that he can "verify" easily by withholding KP, or that he can make unverifiable by claiming to be roleblocked. There's no way a town BH decides "there are 3 or 4 votes on me, like 30 hours before the lynch - time to claim!" I just don't believe that thought process is real. ##vote: blazinghand This post on blazing is making me change my mind about strong. I like his reasoning and I now see him as more townie than scummy. He did post a lot of unnecessary fluff and one liners, but I did that in my last game, WLIIA, and I was town. ##Vote Blazinghand On November 15 2012 10:07 Clarity_nl wrote: BLAZINGHAND? REALLY?! PERFECT TIMING But otherwise, I don't think clarity is scum from his night discussions. | ||
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On November 16 2012 06:53 Dandel Ion wrote: The only other thing I am aware of is that Keir set the night action resolution priority to "scum RB > town RB/jail > everything else". Not sure if that's non-standard though.. I am but a newbie after all. If town JK/RB and scum RB target each other (AND scum RB has the nk shot)....? I`d like to confirm the resolution. | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:29 Dandel Ion wrote: In that case the shot goes through. Scum RB has higher priority. Okay, BH is officially useless for the rest of the game as a blue (if he's blue). However, BH is still a powerful town player, if he is town. Scum almost have to shoot him before getting to LYLO, so I'd rather leave him alive for the time being. I am tentatively a sheep. ##Vote: Strongandbig I still need to actually reread the thread. | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:11 iamperfection wrote: ebwop by the way the acme game is almost about hear the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity CHOOO CHOOOOOO!! | ||
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Unless a townie claims the block on BH, it means scum have Kamek remaining and C9++ requires 0, 1, or 2 "T's" to have Goon, Roleblocker, Godfather (and possible SK). That means 5 'rolls' went towards blue's. I don't know how that ends up working out since Vig's are all one-shot and doctors are JK's instead, but I think there is at least 1 unclaimed blue. I don't want to mass claim because its not likely to get us much more to work with. I'm pissed that I can't ask thrawn why he was being un-thrawny. He specifically referenced the fact that Hapa and Marv should have been on his case and now they're all gone. I need djo to get off of BH for a moment and find scum elsewhere. He seems to be barking at clarity for the moment, so I'll see how that goes. | ||
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