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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:00 GMT
#1423
On November 15 2012 10:59 Hapahauli wrote:
This such fucking bullshit

it's cool, we'll solve the game with this shitstorm
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#1460
On November 15 2012 11:13 debears wrote:
hopeless is scum too btw

This doesn't prove anything. Sadly, I can't continue to tunnel you right now. Make a case on more than my lack of activity please. Tie me to Hapa if you want (its fucking easy, I kept spouting off about how town he was), just stop attacking me with no case please.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#1472
Who else assumes I'm scum besides debears?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#1477
On November 15 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote

Yeah marv's right here - DP's being pretty townie going down.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:46 debears wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless


Plz for the love of god vote hopeless ppl


Can we please lynch this guy? Please?

##Vote Debears

On November 15 2012 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:50 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, if anyone is thinking of voting me, it is becasue you are blindly sheeping marv. Fucking read my defense, FUCKING READ WHAT I SAID REGARDING MY META. FUCKING READ WHAT HAPA SAID. It's a case based SOLELY ON META

DP is acting VERY differently then when he is scum gettingl ynched. I want to unvote him and vote for hopeless.

Also, if I for some godly reason to get lynched. Here are my reads:

Hapa: scum scum scum. Gonna go after him day 2 should I live.

BH probably scum. I can't fathom his claim AT ALL. Kill him should he be alive in like, day 3.

Rest of everybody I'm not sure. Marv is prob town, an arrogant fucking one who can't see the reasonable explanation I've given, but he's pretty much town.


Yeah die.

"Fucking read what Hapa said"

"Hapa; scum scum scum"

##Unvote
##Vote Z-Boson

Does this semi-confirm either of these two? Hapa thought he was safe at this point, and was most likely trying to push a mislynch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:26 GMT
#1488
On November 15 2012 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:22 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:15 debears wrote:
scoreboard update

Z-Bo 1
Debears 1


Nah man, I figured he was scum due to totally different reasons than yours. I just didn't think we would have lynched him based on my arguments alone, and I didn't want to get in a verbal fight with him (he's so fucking difficult to deal with).
His interaction with you I'd say was fairly regular.

Let us compare dicks when the game is over though, and right now REJOICE!!!!

Town fucking awesome. I fucking love you guys. I fucking fucking love you guys. YOU lynched hapa. And now the information we get is OUTSTANDING. Scum is almost 100% in my wagon (maaaaybe except BH, but nah, not voting him tomorrow). I'm obvious not fucking scum, my reads were obviously my last will.

Fuck yea.


You are far from confiremd ZB and your last 'will' was a WIFOM bomb if I ever saw it.

I am calling BH, HAPA, ZB team right now.

How the fuck do you get to do this shit but I dont?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:28 GMT
#1492
On November 15 2012 11:26 strongandbig wrote:
nono it's hapa db, bh is sk

tehres a scam minsng furm ur list
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:43 GMT
#1516
On November 15 2012 11:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Also I am confirmed town. SO suck it, all of you.


I'm not really sure how you're confirmed town. I actually think it's quite the opposite. Please explain.

he was the hammer vote wasn't he?


Yeah but I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is confirmed town. Even looking at my own position, there's nothing confirmed about my town-ness. I think it makes little sense for a guy like DP or me to lynch Hapa if we were scum, but we are really the opposite of confirmed town. We're scummy players with mitigating circumstances.

I have a very hard time calling DP scum right now. IF he was scum, and IF he had voted ZB instead of Hapa, and IF ZB had flipped town, would that have told us anything about Hapa? That shitstorm was so volatile that I have a hard time making sense of things with a Bowser flip. He's not confirmed in the slightest, but he looks very very townie based on those 'mitigating circumstances'.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:45 GMT
#1524
On November 15 2012 11:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Also I am confirmed town. SO suck it, all of you.


I'm not really sure how you're confirmed town. I actually think it's quite the opposite. Please explain.

he was the hammer vote wasn't he?


Yeah but I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is confirmed town. Even looking at my own position, there's nothing confirmed about my town-ness. I think it makes little sense for a guy like DP or me to lynch Hapa if we were scum, but we are really the opposite of confirmed town. We're scummy players with mitigating circumstances.

I have a very hard time calling DP scum right now. IF he was scum, and IF he had voted ZB instead of Hapa, and IF ZB had flipped town, would that have told us anything about Hapa? That shitstorm was so volatile that I have a hard time making sense of things with a Bowser flip. He's not confirmed in the slightest, but he looks very very townie based on those 'mitigating circumstances'.


I'm not calling DP scum either. I'm just saying he's not confirmed town-- we have no confirmed town. We're not lynching DP tomorrow and I'm sure as hell not voting him, because no case can be made against him, but that's based on his actions when his ass was on the line and his contribution to the wagon. There's no confirmed town.

There's no confirmed town.

I agree, but I don't think DP falls in the 'scummy with mitigating circumstances' category. I'm not really convinced you fall there either anymore.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#1534
On November 15 2012 12:01 debears wrote:
For shits and giggles

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 10:01 debears wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:41 Z-BosoN wrote:
Hello, sirs.
First of all I´d like to claim miller.
There are two very viable options now, regarding my alignment on this game.

I am fakeclaiming as mafia.
I am in fact a miller.

My claim here would be fairly risky as scum, and as town it makes more sense to claim so as to not waste detective checks on me, but of course this is WIFOM. I hope to show my alignment in this game through brilliant, stellar townie play, and hope town uses this factor and this factor alone when scouting my alignment.
The only thing I hope to achieve with this claim is to not be checked by an eventual cop, as that check will be guaranteed to turn red.

That being said, I look forward to playing this game. Lot's of familiar faces around, and I am curious to hear more from people I haven't played yet.

Regarding DarthPunk, don't worry, if he's scum, I'll figure it out


HI ZB <3.

Yeah ZB will figure me out If I am scum, and Vice Versa. Hapa will figure marv out and marv will figure everyone out.

GG scummers


But what if me, ZB, and marv are all scum o_O




Then Blazinghand, Debears and I will rip you all a new arsehole. <3


Oh noes! Well fortunately I'm not scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think.+ Show Spoiler +
*Bowzer laugh*+ Show Spoiler +
jk I'm town


On November 13 2012 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.


Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away.

Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise.

its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so.


It's not "so whatever" - I'm pretty skeptical how you're so willing to think Z-Bo is town off what looks to me like a completely null action.


Hapa, last time you did that little spoiler trick (GsL III), you were the role that you put in the spoiler.

Here, you put bowser. Now why would you put bowser out of all the scum roles? It seems to me like you were actively thinking of bowser, which you shouldn't be if you are town. I would expect you to put a town role in that spoiler


Seriously I was about to post this when I saw in Hapa's filter. Holy shit that's funny.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#1580
BECAUSE YOU'RE SCUMBUDDIES!!

or he was trying to deflect attention off me

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 14:40 GMT
#1584
btw, from Whose Line post game, Blazing having played a blue role:

On November 10 2012 03:33 Blazinghand wrote:
I never pay attention to IRL excuses under any circumstances. Easily lied about.

Edit: In a way, I almost consider talking about IRL excuses "cheating" in the sense that it's a non-defense that people for whatever reason accept. If I'm ever away from the thread for a period of time, I never give a reason for it. Mafia is about mafia, and that's it.

He wasn't really away from the thread, but he did ridiculous things in the name of knowing he had IRL shit to take care of.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:37 GMT
#1607
On November 15 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:

Hopeless - what are your scum games other than Acme?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066
Newbie 20
Hapa demolished me day 1. I doubt you find it incredibly useful.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1610
On November 16 2012 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Do you have any thoughts on players/events now, Hopeless?

I think BH is full of shit. In Hapa's newbie scum game, we lynched a blue (calgar) at LYLO. Shortly thereafter,:

On July 30 2012 08:28 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
If "someone" would have claimed blue...
Coach advised it was wrong move + worthless so yep.

Guess who the coach was...

This is just more evidence that what BH did was ridiculous. But I guess we already know that.


Z-Bo's timing of this post:
On November 15 2012 10:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
LYNCH HAPAHAULI.

LYNCH BLAZINGHAND. when he is alive day 3.

marv, hope you learn you are not the fucking god of mafia, and see that meta reads are only worth it if it isn't fucking obvious stylistic proven logical and pre-claimed reasons.

Was RIGHT before the push for Hapa began. I can't begin to fathom HOW Z-Bo called it, but everything else about him looks townie about the way the lynch went down.



DP is a townread due to it being completely unnecessary to bus Hapa like that. Unless the scumteam is Z-Bo/Hapa/DP, it just feels like DP being town is the simpler explanation.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:52 GMT
#1612
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#1614
Not yet, dear.
*gives marv $10*
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#1616
On November 16 2012 00:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
What's your read on me, Hopeless?

Uhh....reading your filter is worth a shot, I guess. brb

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#1620
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

Man, I realize I'm almost confirmed scum to you, but Hapa gave you a leg to stand on when he made that comment and I'll be damned if I just ignore that. I thought it was going to save you as scum, but it goes both ways in that he is revealing that there was more to his read against you that he didn't use to get you lynched. That is most un-Hapa-like behavior.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:21 GMT
#1622
@Clarity - scumread, details for later
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 17:31 GMT
#1636
I wish you the best in your endeavors.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 19:20 GMT
#1656
Crossfire in the crosshairs, we get it team.
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