Mario Mini Mafia - Page 3

On November 13 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote:

oh lol my bad thats was supposed to strongandbig in that comment.

On November 14 2012 03:49 strongandbig wrote:


iamperfection is lazy as fuck, he's like mattchew in being both terrible and lazy

but at the moment hapa's case is super unpersuasive to me

On November 14 2012 05:06 strongandbig wrote:

gsl 2 doesnt count

thats the one where i got mislynched for not having enough time to play while i was on vacation with my family

i mean yeah i was lazy there but whatever



also i mean like "intellectually lazy", as in "not bothering to explain yourself very much."

On November 14 2012 05:14 Z-BosoN wrote:



What debears mentions is his radical switch from >>Hunting BH<< to >>Agreeing with BH<<.
Except that this post I quoted is immediately after his vote on me. Here, he still shows interest in finding out if BH is scum, someone he had just agreed with. That being said, he is being incredibly flip-floppy, which I'm finding extremely weird.

I don't think this is enough to peg him as scum though, I can imagine him as town being suspicious of everyone.
I find BH's play to be much, much more appaling. I have only played one game with him, so I'm not super aware of his meta, but it is totally different than his Liquid City one. Here he has made one major case, a weak one at that, and established an unusally high amount of certainty on it, calling it "a masterpiece".

On November 14 2012 05:16 Blazinghand wrote:
im not sure ive called it a masterpiece but yeah its good

On November 14 2012 05:23 Blazinghand wrote:
just cuz u agree with me doesnt mean ur town dude

On November 14 2012 05:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Anyone willing to give their read on DarthPunk while everyone anxiously awaits Blazinghand's defense and case?

On November 14 2012 05:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Do you guys have some sort of meta read that I do not?
The description "has a 3 page filter but nothing that I can make a read off of" doesn't seem very townie to me.

On November 14 2012 05:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
Still on Darth. Stay on target!

On November 14 2012 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Darth is still playing in Acme. Poor play may be related to that. I'm null on him.

On November 14 2012 06:00 Blazinghand wrote:


spoken like a guy who doesn't know how to crack jokes

way easier to crack jokes than to contribute, dont see why it's odd

On November 14 2012 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:


Well, I'm home now so I'll write a post with some proper thoughts. And I see no reason to leave the thread just because you've told me to.

On November 14 2012 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but if wishes were wings, etc.

Man, there's few things I hate like arguing about my own meta, but several people have talked about it, at least in passing, so I'm dispelling the meta myth right now. I would have liked someone else to do it, but you all are too lazy to actually back up your meta statements so I have to do it myself. It'd be really nice if one of you could verify it for yourself because a dude talking about his own meta doesn't usually go well.

Here are my scum games. There might be one or two I'm missing, but these are the ones I remember:

Cop Idiot Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827&user=133498
Bureaucracy Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=133498
Resistance II: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498
Emergency Mini Mafia (3rd party): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498

If you take a look at all these games, even Emergency Mini Mafia, what people are attributing to my "bad scum meta" this game are not present at all. As scum I try to play like town-- posting big cases and interacting with people a lot. Where I fail is that as scum, I'm typically overly diplomatic and temperamentally less aggressive. This game is nothing like any of my scum games.

Now let's look at the one time I've been mislynched, in Storm Mafia:
Storm Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=133498

Yeah it's rather old but the point is I don't always play perfectly. Sometimes, yes, I'm making smaller posts and my cases aren't perfect. I've been mislynched for playing to my "scum meta" when in fact I just sometimes play differently as town. I'm not making the same mistake I made in Storm Mafia-- not defending myself zealously and claiming at the appropriate time.

I'm the Jailkeeper. My crumb is in the post where I talk about my large penis and how it could work as a "pad" (link)-- for pad-lock, lock, locked up, jail, jailkeeper. Admittedly, role crumbs aren't much supporting evidence, but lynching a claimed blue D1 is amazingly bad play. It's possible there's no scum roleblocker which means my power can still be of use to us.

You all have plenty of time to unvote me and vote Z-B before the day ends.

On November 14 2012 07:26 Hapahauli wrote:


His rationale and motive make sense to me from a scum perspective - I've already mentioned that. Making a 180 when spurred by another case is scummy and convenient. I realize you disagree, but I think you're wrong.

And to draw comparisons to the read on Kei you mentioned in GSL III - I find imaperfection's actions alone much more scummy than Kei's actions in GSL III. Kei has a history of reluctant D1 play. Iamperfection doesn't have a history of these things in his town play to my knowledge.

On November 14 2012 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay so, best move on and wait a bit to see if there's a counter claim?
Were you around all this time iamp, or did you just return?

On November 14 2012 08:17 Hapahauli wrote:


@ iamp

Can you explain your thought process on Z-Bo to me because I just can't understand it. Why were you so initially convinced he was town based on his claim? Is the case you posted on him the only things you find scummy about him? I can't connect the dots.

On November 14 2012 00:04 iamperfection wrote:

LOL dont you dare talk down to me you little punk. You criticize me when YOU were the one being all terrible with your first couple of posts. Being all herp derp i don't have to contribute even though interesting things were happening at the time. Give me a break

But that being said ## Unvote

Your case on zbos reminds me more of your play from rockband more then the way you were being early on.

Lokking at what zbos has posted especially this crap which bh pointed out


If you look closely debears never said anything about being able to tell if marv is town or not from an anyltical standpoint he made it pretty clear that it was not the case and that he had said he was simply going to vote for him no matter what.

Zbos totally misrepresents what is being said here and if he has the courage to throw a vote out for it you would have thought he would have read clearly what he was in fact voting for.


This post here is also another pile of crap and its the iamperfection rule of whoever defends me is probably scum. If he cared at all to check in gsl III where i was scum which he played in lollololol i thrw around 2 strong town reads early on he should know this and the fact that he isnt willing to do any legwork in order to find out is more evidence not in his favor. This post is also extremly wishy washy on everything he said.

I know i said early on that i thought the miller claim was more of a town tell but well i think zbos actions speak louder.

so ## Vote zboson

On November 14 2012 08:19 Blazinghand wrote:
I did have to claim. But yeah let's leave that for post game.

I currently have two scumreads ZB and Iamp. If ZB isnt geting lynnjed thats understandable but iamp is a good target for todays lynch probably

lurking wise
xfire is getting modkilled/replaced probably so thats good

Im chiefly concerned about thrawn because he wont get modkilled and is lurking

will make sure to write good cases today

On November 14 2012 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah i dunno what to think now gotta read up and rethink