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The following are a list of people who, if lynched, would be heavily motivated by activity:
Me - Town
Debears - Scum
Thrawn - Still alive in Acme. Also drastically inactive. His excuse is getting too high. Checks out. Null
DarthPunk - His play doesn't fit any Mafia meta at all (Mafia = the game itself, not the alignment). Also still alive in Acme. Checks out. Null
Kickstarter - First game. Calls Hapa scummy, then BH and Hapa as scumbuddies. He goes on to suggest that flipping one is the same as flipping the other+ Show Spoiler +On November 14 2012 12:27 Kickstart wrote:I already said how I view it - him pressuring and questioning people, I don't feel that he needs to change his vote to the person he is pressuring / trying to get a read on? Would it help? Maybe. Is it a scum tell that he didn't? Not to me. and I see we are quickly posting back and forth so I will just reiterate on: Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 12:11 Hapahauli wrote:On November 14 2012 12:07 Kickstart wrote:
Blazing is right, I clearly stated on page 22 that I am sleeping now and will attempt to post before heading to school later. I wake up and there are 10+ pages to read and I did not have the time to read all that and form a proper post in ~30 minutes (you constantly saying that I post something and then peace-out is a bit annoying because every time I go to class or sleep I have explicitly stated that I was doing so). And to your second question yes I do view that as you and bh working together, that is why I said I would have auto voted you if BH flipped red otherwise would have had to really reevaluate. And I did not say I believe his JK claim???? I said it was a horrible claim and makes him "deadweight" now (3rd time saying this now...). Your logic right now: "I was 100% down with lynching BH... and then he claims jk" "I still don't like his posting before or after the claim " "I would love to flip him just to see" ...and then you vote me for starting a "bandwagon" on a player. Yeah ok. That totally makes sense. Again, I am reading both you and BH as scummy. I was going to vote him and if he flipped red auto vote you, but now that he jk claimed I am just as content to do the opposite - vote you and if you flip red vote him. And the above should do fine in response to BHs snarky comment. My voting has nothing to do with being a man or not, you are overusing that line. I am keeping my vote on Hapa for now  , and if he does get lynched and flips red, I will gladly vote for you immediatly.
He goes on to vote me, but just lumps himself into the 'other cases on me'. I realize it may be an effort to consolidate, but he has offered nothing other than his vote and I find that scummy. In addition, he feels that Hapa has redeemed himself, and BH can't be lynched today due to his claim. However, there is no discussion from him regarding the two (current) lynch candidates. Again, I find this scummy. I had to pull the information from him, instead of him offering it up freely. Pot, Kettle, Black, but its no less true.
Crossfire - has posted very little. My read on him is that he and BH are not both scum. All his posts have related to BH in some way so far, and seem sincere in that he cannot understand the need to claim. I'm null on him, with the caveat that if BH flips scum, he's most likely town.
Hapa - town, largely due to connections between him and debears, and between him and kickstart. This read has severely influenced my current scumreads.
BH is trolly as fuck, but unlynchable today due to an uncountered JK claim. I haven't read into his meta, because there is no chance to push his lynch, even if I can make a convincing case. Despite this, I think the trolling is scummy, and I'll need to read the threads he's referenced during the night (assuming I'm not lynched).
Marv - Town. Huge filter but its not really spammy. I get the feeling he cares, is active and is helping to organize town. Even if hes not town, which I think he is, I'd want to watch him sit idle as down destroys itself before I feel the need to vote him. This read is based on meta from games I played with marv: Mad Men (Town-Marv), and Death Note (Scum-Marv).
iamperfection - Null. I've commented on this already. I'm sad that he doesn't want to lynch debears and sadder that it means he'll probably vote me, but I don't have scum alarms going off.
Clarity - Town. He seems to misread the thread or just confuse people alot. I feel that type of repeating 'mistake' is less likely to happen as scum. Fairly active and is sticking to his read on DP. Also is seen trying to focus people into more productive avenues. Could be called faked activity, but his intentions are open for all to see. I'd like to know where he stands at present between me and debears though.
Z-Bo - Town. I liked his pursuit of his case against BH and thought he brought up some legitimate points. Apparently they were so good BH had to claim to escape. Also, tried to get a meta read on me, concludes I'm scum. Slight contradictions from his earlier stance that I was similar to the game he meta'd me with, and I know he's wrong, but that doesn't make him scum. His conclusions are true and he looks like he's legitimately trying to catch scum.
Strongandbig - Null-Town. Strange vt claim feels townslippy. However, Kenpachi rule shenanigans and insists on lynching BH for a while, despite blueclaim. Too strong of a scum motive to just let that slide, but I also think BH is scummy, so this read flips to Null-Scum if BH is in fact JK.
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EBWOP: Just remove that first line, I was trying to categorize my reads and said fuck it half way through.
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On November 15 2012 07:02 Dandel Ion wrote:Votecount:debears (4): Hapahauli, Hopeless1der, marvellosity, strongandbig DarthPunk (3): Clarity_nl, thrawn2112, iamperfection Hopeless1der (3): debears, Z-BosoN, Kickstart Hapahauli (1): Blazinghand Not voting (2): Crossfire99, DarthPunk Currently, debears is set to be lynched! 4 hours remaining in day 1.
Please PM any of your resident votecount bitches (or mighty master Keir) if your vote is counted incorrectly.
Remember: If you don't vote at all, the divine wrath of the mod will strike you.
Full version:+ Show Spoiler +debears (4): Z-Boson, strongandbig, Hapahauli, Hopeless1nder, marvellosity, strongandbig
DarthPunk (3): Hapahauli Hapahauli, Clarity_nl, thrawn2112, Blazinghand, iamperfection
Hopeless1der (3): debears, marvellosity, marvellosity, Z-BosoN, Kickstart
Hapahauli (1): iamperfection, strongandbig. Kickstart, Blazinghand
Blazinghand (0): iamperfection, Z-BosoN, marvellosity, iamperfection, strongandbig
iamperfection (0): Hapahauli, Bloatinghand
Z-BosoN (0): Blazinghand, iamperfection, Blazinghand
thrawn2112 (0): Hapahauli
strongandbig (0): DarthPunk, Z-BosoN, Clarity_nl, Hapahauli, DarthPunk
Clarity_nl (0): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): debears
Not voting (2): Crossfire99, DarthPunk
Currently ~3 hours to deadline. Also, heavy modkill implications. Cross and DP, votes plox.
On November 15 2012 07:47 iamperfection wrote:
ya i dont want to lynch hopeless. Although there is some silly association stuff that i dont personally like.
But at least he is doing what you should if your town and under large pressure near lynch time.
I would never pursue a lynch based on association without flips to support. These suspicions (I'm guessing the Hapa-debears-kickstart ones) are supplementary and were shaped around my strongest scumread, which is debears. If debears flips red, I'm not going to just autolynch kickstart, but I will point back to my read and pressure him for scumhunting because of my read. Similarly, it doesn't confirm Hapa as town, but it would be a strong indicator to me.
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On November 15 2012 08:18 debears wrote:
Hey S&B
When were those posts? Early D1 if I recall
What have you posted that's so great? You trolled in the beginning. Now you're being hypocritical in your vote
Spread more shit on every other player. That'll save you 100%
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On my way home, back in an hour ish
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p.s. I lied, I'm still at work. 
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On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now: 1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=40#7962) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL. 3) Show nested quote +Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy ROFL at no meta again. ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=47#9374) AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.
But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.
You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\
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On November 15 2012 08:56 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now: 1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=40#7962) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL. 3) Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy ROFL at no meta again. ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=47#9374) ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.
But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum. You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\ It's rather hard to post perfect logic when you're scum and you HAVE to show suspicion of confirmed townies. What's your point?
That debears is going to rage at OMG META READ WITH NO EXAMPLES
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@Marv's case on Z-Boson - Quite frankly, if it saves me, I'll vote Z-boson, otherwise my vote stays parked on debears. I still think Z-Bo is town though, I just happen to know I'm town.
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K actually going home this time. I'll be back before the lynch, TL being down notwithstanding
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On November 15 2012 10:32 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:32 debears wrote:Oh and btw guys 30 minutes before the lynch and hopeless still not here last post of his On November 15 2012 09:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
K actually going home this time. I'll be back before the lynch, TL being down notwithstanding That was 40 minutes ago. Long time to get home He's claiming difficulty connecting to TL
No I'm not. Its roughly a 30 minute drive to get home. I work at a mine in the mountains of NE British Columbia. There isn't even cell reception on the way home (and I drove). I'm back and re-reading now.
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Hai gaiz. Am I getting hte lynch? it seems like a no...
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k well I'm not reading scum on either of them...re-reading DP's case on you clarity
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Switch back to debears plox
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ZB, how is what debears doing townie at all? He's trying to lynch me for inactivity when I said I was on my way home from work. He's had like 10 desperate posts trying to push me for no other reason than 'he's not here' - This is almost half his entire case on me. Lynch debears.
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On November 15 2012 10:54 debears wrote:
Wait DP and Z-Bo think hapa is scum?
##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless
wat...
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On November 15 2012 10:55 Clarity_nl wrote:
We're not killing debears. We're killing either zbo or you, so you better vote zbo. Unless you're superawesometown who sacrifices himself for the sake of town. I'd buy that.
fuck that, debears is still an option. Im not voting Zbo unless it saves me
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I'm voting scum. Screw you all.
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@BH - Zb is already voting for Hapa
On November 15 2012 10:56 Z-BosoN wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote hapahauli
Is what I meant.
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EPT
