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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:16 GMT
#3328
I did take a hard position on day 1, namely darth. I later agreed with marv's case on zbo and went there, and stayed there.
I would've stayed on darth if people were interested in lynching him day 1, but they weren't.

snb didn't ask questions day 1 at all. He gave "opinions" on stuff, but they boiled down to "you're dumb" or "I (dis)agree with this"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:20 GMT
#3329
Yeah, me trying to stop people from jumping on cross and hapa looked bad, but realize that I wasn't defending THEM, I was trying to stop last minute shenanigans. My entire play during the last hour or two on day 1 was trying to get us organized rather than creating chaos.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:27 GMT
#3330
Gonna do groceries be back in 30 ish
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:54 GMT
#3333
Yeah I get it. Let me try to explain my reasoning as best as I remember:

snb vt slip: I voted for him to pressure and to explain. He kind of explained but the explanation was terrible. I hit a point where I realized my vote was doing nothing

bh: the claim was dumb regardless of alignment, I said it was dumb regardless of alignment. I didn't want everyone to dwell on it for too long since lynching a day 1 blue claim is bad unless there's a counter claim, I stand by this.

hapa's attack on you I don't even remember, I'd have to look back, I will after this post.

hapa's attack on debears (is the debars thing some sort of inside joke?), I don't think I ever considered voting hapa day 1, the only thing that stood out was him trying to say the snb vt claim and cheese vt claim were alike.
Debears's case on hapa was complete OMGUS, so I commented on it when the post went up.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:59 GMT
#3334
You mean this?
On November 14 2012 02:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 02:41 iamperfection wrote:
I changed my mind deal with it bro. When I get home I might do it again. does that make me scum? If so continue if not don't waste my time


Yes I think it makes you scum. It's not a coherent thought process. Look at how much you rationalize your town read on Z-Boson from that claim:

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
zbos explained it in his post would have been very risky in my view.

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.


Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away.

Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise.

its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so.


...then you abandon all of this because of the "iamperfection rule" or some shit like that?

I call BS.


Yeah I recall seeing that and agreeing with marv, doing a complete 180 that early into day 1 is not scum like.
No one really talked about it afterwards so there was no point to comment on it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 16:09 GMT
#3339
I don't get names wrong on purpose I'm just an idiot sometimes. Blazing why did you unvote snb?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 16:58 GMT
#3347
My issue hasn't been your activity, it's been the fact that you're only active when it benefits you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 17:12 GMT
#3350
On November 21 2012 02:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
1.iamperfection
2.DarthPunk
3.Kickstart
3.Strongandbig
4.djodref
5.Clarity_nl


##Unvote: Strongandbig
##Vote: Clarity_nl


I want iamperfection, DP and kickstart to live to LYLO/MYLO. I read SnB as less scummy than djo and clarity. I think clarity is our last scum. If the scum is within the three I want to live, well then I fucked up large. Otherwise, scum will die at some point from here to end-game.


Okay, but why?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#3353
Djo I agree he looks scummy right now but do you truly believe he's scummier than snb? Assume both of them are town, who would you rather have around during lylo?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 17:53 GMT
#3356
Ehhhh I really just want to lynch snb today, he's by far the highest chance to flip scum. If I have to choose between getting lynched or switching to darth though I'll switch, obviously.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 20:21 GMT
#3361
So no one is saying much right now, are there people considering moving their votes or not? I'd rather people think out in the open....

Blazing kind of unvoted without saying why and I imagine iamp isn't quite sure yet.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 22:48 GMT
#3367
Please analyze the cases against snb, darth and myself carefully. Know that snb and myself will likely hop on whoever they have to, to not get lynched. Try to find scum motivations behind actions and find your own reasoning, not just the one presented to you, to vote.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 22:48 GMT
#3369
On November 21 2012 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Please iamp when have I fucked up anything this game


lol
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 22:51 GMT
#3374
Hopeless you explain that you want the towniest players to survive to lylo, so you listed the people from most towny to least, and I am at the bottom. That is why you voted for me, right? Could you please explain what convinced you of this?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 22:52 GMT
#3376
I think he'll be around for lynchtime, so it might. I don't think djo will keep his vote on someone that he sees won't get lynched.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#3378
I don't have to go through my filter, I already did after snb's case.
Please keep in mind that it was day 1.

Before my case on darth I took no strong stances. Then I took a strong stance on darth until I switched to zbo because I realized darth was not going to get lynched, and his replies started to look townie.

I do not believe this is scummy. Day 1 is about collecting information and creating a town atmosphere, and there's more than 1 way to go about doing that.

I ask you to look beyond day 1 as well.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:00 GMT
#3381
My case on snb was formed because he was and is scummy. Snb's case on me was formed because he had to make a case to survive. Please see the difference.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:01 GMT
#3382
On November 21 2012 08:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 07:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't have to go through my filter, I already did after snb's case.
Please keep in mind that it was day 1.

Before my case on darth I took no strong stances. Then I took a strong stance on darth until I switched to zbo because I realized darth was not going to get lynched, and his replies started to look townie.

I do not believe this is scummy. Day 1 is about collecting information and creating a town atmosphere, and there's more than 1 way to go about doing that.

I ask you to look beyond day 1 as well.

the game changed dramatically after day 1 i think in this game the interactions on day 1 are most important. After day 1 and night one the remaining scum had no ones interest but his own correct?


Correct.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:03 GMT
#3384
Because I am afraid you're going to lynch me
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:05 GMT
#3385
If you lynch me and I'm wrong about snb, town might lose. I don't want that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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