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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 14:42 GMT
#1589
On November 15 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
naw, your quiz is boring, bro.


What if I come up with a better one?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 14:46 GMT
#1595
The only problem with a day 1 lynch:

Looking back at most of a 70-something pg thread to figure some associations.

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 14:51 GMT
#1597
On November 15 2012 23:47 iamperfection wrote:
i think its pretty awesome that after a 70 page day 1 everyone said fuck it and caught scum.


Agreed. Especially bowser :D

Good times....good times

And yeah I don't see anything from that scum game that necessarily helps me out looking back through day 1.

The only thing I got is that hapa largely ignores his scumbuddies in d1/d2. But, that was also a long time ago
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 14:53 GMT
#1598
oh btw on BH

Yeah he's either JK or scum.

His pre-thought out breadcrumb is not what a VT would do
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 15:19 GMT
#1600
^^exactly my thoughts

he totally disregarded his rules of scumhunting in terms of hopeless.

And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#1617
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#1618
^^^Guys look at this shit
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:39 GMT
#1628
On November 16 2012 01:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

Man, I realize I'm almost confirmed scum to you, but Hapa gave you a leg to stand on when he made that comment and I'll be damned if I just ignore that. I thought it was going to save you as scum, but it goes both ways in that he is revealing that there was more to his read against you that he didn't use to get you lynched. That is most un-Hapa-like behavior.


I'm going to have to reread that whole thing :/
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#1631
Honestly I would love to know where all the what, 8 other players are at today.

I count these ppl actually showing up and talking

Marv
Iamp
Hopeless
Clarity
BH - a little

Keirathi

Love how DP, Thrawn, Z-bo still not showing up

I mean, by pure numbers at least 1 of them is town, and most likely 2 of them are town

Then crossfire and kickstart....

Ugh
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#1632
I guess that's 5 lol

SB did show up earlier for a little. A little lower than BH
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:27 GMT
#1634
@Hopeless

I'm going to give you a fresh slate starting now. I'll reread your d1 actions and such.

If I like your contributions going into the lynch, I'll strongly reconsider a scumread on you. If I don't, I will use d1 to smite you into the ground

ok?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:32 GMT
#1637
On November 16 2012 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
debears, you're so cute


thankyou :D
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:52 GMT
#1640
DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112
Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahauli
debears (1): Hopeless1der
Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk

So marv and iamp

Based on this votecount, and d1 activity, I think we have a few good suspects
*Warning: No Hopeless1der suspicions were included in this post*

1) Thrawn - way off his town meta. Never has played scum. Wasted vote. Didn't care who got lynched
2) Crossfire - Vote on Z-Bo, who I believe is town at this point. Also, nothing useful d1
3) S&B - his d1 wasn't great by any means. I'll have to take a look at who he found suspicious

Out of the people voting Hapa - problem is hapa was scum and it was a really late bandwagon. Scum would've been retarded to bus their own teammate like that. Yet, it's still possible

1) BH - fakeclaim is suspicious. He is jk or scum (very slight chance of sk but doesn't make sense). I think he did start the bandwagon on hapa though with the "FOS if you would vote Hapa" thing
2) DP - D1 was very subpar for his capabilities. Pretty much him and thrawn had the same d1 in terms of contributions
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:54 GMT
#1641
^^btw that isn't an order by any means. just a list
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 18:06 GMT
#1642
On November 16 2012 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Bo-man.

Really unsure on Hopeless atm. My note against him says

"Could be either. ick. useless lurky. feels town. now not so sure. torn."

I've also uncoloured you orange for now.


Do you use a coloring book for your reads?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#1644
On November 16 2012 03:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 03:06 debears wrote:
On November 16 2012 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Bo-man.

Really unsure on Hopeless atm. My note against him says

"Could be either. ick. useless lurky. feels town. now not so sure. torn."

I've also uncoloured you orange for now.


Do you use a coloring book for your reads?


I use the google spreadsheet colour-in-cell function

i'm sure that's the technical name.


But what would you do if google went down in the middle of the game? A hardcopy coloring book is optimal
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 19:18 GMT
#1654
On November 16 2012 03:34 Z-BosoN wrote:
So yea, I'd be safest with lynching him tomorrow.



Yeah if I didn't think you were town, I would be all over you for this statement
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 21:15 GMT
#1669
Why bh over the lurker doodles like thrawn dp crossfire kickstart?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 21:19 GMT
#1673
We can get a read on bh as time goes by.

How can we get a solid read off people who barely contribute?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 21:22 GMT
#1678
On November 16 2012 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
debears for someone accusing me of active lurking two hours in, you sure are active lurking


Hellz yeah I did. And hellz yeah I am

There aint too much to input on due to 5 lurker doodles.

I have some reads, but ill share them right before night ends. I'm in the top 3 nk targets most likely (assuming marv and bh are town)
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