• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:01
CET 11:01
KST 19:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool31Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea JaeDong's form before ASL BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4971 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXX - Page 6

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 12 Next All
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:55 GMT
#832
Did cheese really have a motive to claim though? It's not like Alsn's case has gotten any real traction.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#835
On November 05 2012 08:56 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT?


Why would you think that doesn't prove anything. I didn't know everyone got the VT role pm? This sounds like you knew that everyone did


I didn't want to assume things. I didn't know that either but I had considered it much earlier. I noticed the OP is different from my PM role.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:59 GMT
#836
ebwop The last thing we needed an hour before lynchtime was a really big assumption.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:00 GMT
#842
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#855
On November 05 2012 09:03 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
Yea, I get what happened. But can we assume that scum knew about the flavour text or what? I don't see the reason to point it out to us if claiming that means that they are 100% VT no chance of that claim being false? Cause otherwise the game would be over at this point?


I took marvel's post as: everyone who's not VT got given the VT name
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:08 GMT
#859
On November 05 2012 09:07 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I guess the scum did know about the flavor text, but I didn't know they knew about it.
Yea and I'm just supposed to take your word for it? For all I know you and Clarity are both scum and you figured since the OP doesn't mention it you'd claim and then say "amagad, we couldn't possibly not be town!".

I think we have to assume the whole flavour thing to be a null tell.


That means the only new info we have is that Cheese claimed VT..... ?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:21 GMT
#880
Debears you were going to explain why you voted for cheese, then you withdraw your vote and say nvm, now you vote for him again? The confusion is normal with wtf just happened, but please explain your reasoning.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:23 GMT
#885
Okay, so your currently reasoning to lynch Cheese is entirely based off of his VT claim?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:28 GMT
#895
I think if Cheese flips red there's no way debears is scum.... 9 player mafia and scum busses eachother day 1? No way.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:30 GMT
#899
On November 05 2012 09:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I seriously thought that way of claiming would get me confirmed town because nobody else knew the flavor for VT besides VT's xD. And I figured, as a confirmed town, that I'd get the NK because confirmed towns are a good target over going for a longshot blue snipe. Hey, Debears got what I was going for right away.

I'll be afk until the green flip.


WTF, defend yourself.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:33 GMT
#905
##unvote
##vote Mr. Cheesecake


Your defense is WIFOM?!
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:42 GMT
#924
Wait, so you're voting debears to save yourself when you're VT?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:46 GMT
#931
On November 05 2012 09:45 Obzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:40 Rad wrote:
Not going to get modkilled, Obzy.


Alright ^^ It would just be such a damn shame if da0ud and yourself were modkilled for something like that. It's the sort of thing that would slip my mind if I hadn't been worrying about it.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:39 da0ud wrote:
He looks like town giving up now.


If he was town, he shouldn't give up. If he was town, he shouldn't've remained neutral. If he was town, he wouldn't've tried to point out, as Rad noticed, that he was specifically VT, when he wasn't going to be lynched today ANYWAYS. I think that it was entirely an attempt to try to get votes off of Clarity. (Which worked, if only for a single day.)

Alternatively, if he flipped green, then Clarity was trying to take advantage of the sudden confusion to get himself off. So even if he's green, I still think Clarity is scum.

But he is not green. [IMO]


I'll address this after lynchtime because we need to get as much info out of cheese as possible atm.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:54 GMT
#945
On November 05 2012 09:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Because, this right now is the chance to prove my innocence. This would have been the stupidest move ever for scum. Rule #1 of being town: Prove your innocence. I just proved my innocence by taking the biggest risk ever, a VT claim based on the fact that the OP didn't indicate flavor. If I were scum, I should've known the moderator would have come and cleared it up and subsequently this occurring.


Does this mean you wouldn't have claimed if it was classic flavor and you were called Townie?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:59 GMT
#958
So who is it, you keep switching hoping that something will stick...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 01:11 GMT
#985
I... don't know...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 01:22 GMT
#992
The logical thing was to jump on me, why did he jump on Djo, then debears, then me?
I'll try and answer this myself but not now. I am seriously confused and need sleep. Back in 10 hours max.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#1050
On November 05 2012 17:28 da0ud wrote:
If a lynch for D2 : I am currently running for yourself (see my case) and Clarity (he knew that non-VT would have the VT role).

I did like Clarity's defense overnight, he sounded pretty honest to me. He has addressed calmly all the points against him. Just this slip is too much. He could be blue though, but I would not think he would have been that condescending if blue.

I still keep Debears somewhere there on top of the list, but he has been consistent in driving town forward. Yet there is a lot of fluff, useless posts ("ugh mispost", etc.). If he is scum we should be able to find some clues with more pieces of information on people's alignment in the near future.

I have a gut feeling on Rad. I will try to put a case on him during D2. If i cannot make a proper case with valid arguments against him, I will let you know why I find him to lay more townie then.


I asked marv about the flavor role PMs way before Cheese claimed. The reason I sounded so "condescending" (as you put it) is because I wanted him to shut up and explain why he claimed, and to try and stop others from claiming, but things went to shit fast. The reason I didn't say this earlier was because I had to check with marv if I was allowed to post this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 13:22 GMT
#1054
On November 05 2012 22:14 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

Why did you keep this information for yourself ?
Now that the thread is calmed down, could you explain in detail why you wanted to lynch Cheese ?



Because even from the perspective of a VT not knowing others know the flavor, his claim made no sense. After you got all the info (when marv posted everyone knew VT flavor) you didn't switch either, with the exact same information I had.
I didn't tell anyone because I figured scum would try what Cheese looked like he was trying. No point in telling scum that town knows they know about VT flavor.

I'd like to know your reasoning for staying on cheese as well.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 13:26 GMT
#1055
On November 05 2012 22:16 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: If you had checked this with marv way earlier than cheese claim, what prevented you from asking him the permission to share this info with everybody in the meantime ?


Nothing prevented me from doing that, I just didn't. It only occurred to me as I was about to post it that posting a mod pm might not be a good idea.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 4: Playoffs Day 2
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
Tasteless217
CranKy Ducklings16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 217
ProTech127
Rex 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 19777
Calm 6574
Hyuk 3569
Jaedong 1180
Horang2 958
Hm[arnc] 473
Larva 448
Mong 427
BeSt 356
actioN 240
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 125
Soma 85
Pusan 71
Yoon 57
Rush 55
Light 54
ZerO 50
Aegong 40
Mind 39
sorry 34
GoRush 31
NotJumperer 30
ToSsGirL 27
zelot 26
Barracks 24
Free 19
Noble 16
Terrorterran 15
hero 14
910 13
Bale 12
SilentControl 0
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 1078
XcaliburYe180
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1131
zeus425
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK15
Other Games
singsing1646
Fuzer 196
Sick172
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick577
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream106
Other Games
BasetradeTV50
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH248
• 3DClanTV 21
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling143
Upcoming Events
BSL
9h 59m
Replay Cast
13h 59m
Replay Cast
22h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 59m
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
1d 1h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 23h
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
WardiTV Team League
6 days
BSL
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
ByuN vs Maru
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.