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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:55 GMT
#832
Did cheese really have a motive to claim though? It's not like Alsn's case has gotten any real traction.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#835
On November 05 2012 08:56 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT?


Why would you think that doesn't prove anything. I didn't know everyone got the VT role pm? This sounds like you knew that everyone did


I didn't want to assume things. I didn't know that either but I had considered it much earlier. I noticed the OP is different from my PM role.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:59 GMT
#836
ebwop The last thing we needed an hour before lynchtime was a really big assumption.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:00 GMT
#842
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#855
On November 05 2012 09:03 Alsn wrote:
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On November 05 2012 09:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
Yea, I get what happened. But can we assume that scum knew about the flavour text or what? I don't see the reason to point it out to us if claiming that means that they are 100% VT no chance of that claim being false? Cause otherwise the game would be over at this point?


I took marvel's post as: everyone who's not VT got given the VT name
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:08 GMT
#859
On November 05 2012 09:07 Alsn wrote:
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On November 05 2012 09:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I guess the scum did know about the flavor text, but I didn't know they knew about it.
Yea and I'm just supposed to take your word for it? For all I know you and Clarity are both scum and you figured since the OP doesn't mention it you'd claim and then say "amagad, we couldn't possibly not be town!".

I think we have to assume the whole flavour thing to be a null tell.


That means the only new info we have is that Cheese claimed VT..... ?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:21 GMT
#880
Debears you were going to explain why you voted for cheese, then you withdraw your vote and say nvm, now you vote for him again? The confusion is normal with wtf just happened, but please explain your reasoning.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:23 GMT
#885
Okay, so your currently reasoning to lynch Cheese is entirely based off of his VT claim?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:28 GMT
#895
I think if Cheese flips red there's no way debears is scum.... 9 player mafia and scum busses eachother day 1? No way.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:30 GMT
#899
On November 05 2012 09:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I seriously thought that way of claiming would get me confirmed town because nobody else knew the flavor for VT besides VT's xD. And I figured, as a confirmed town, that I'd get the NK because confirmed towns are a good target over going for a longshot blue snipe. Hey, Debears got what I was going for right away.

I'll be afk until the green flip.


WTF, defend yourself.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:33 GMT
#905
##unvote
##vote Mr. Cheesecake


Your defense is WIFOM?!
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:42 GMT
#924
Wait, so you're voting debears to save yourself when you're VT?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:46 GMT
#931
On November 05 2012 09:45 Obzy wrote:
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On November 05 2012 09:40 Rad wrote:
Not going to get modkilled, Obzy.


Alright ^^ It would just be such a damn shame if da0ud and yourself were modkilled for something like that. It's the sort of thing that would slip my mind if I hadn't been worrying about it.

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On November 05 2012 09:39 da0ud wrote:
He looks like town giving up now.


If he was town, he shouldn't give up. If he was town, he shouldn't've remained neutral. If he was town, he wouldn't've tried to point out, as Rad noticed, that he was specifically VT, when he wasn't going to be lynched today ANYWAYS. I think that it was entirely an attempt to try to get votes off of Clarity. (Which worked, if only for a single day.)

Alternatively, if he flipped green, then Clarity was trying to take advantage of the sudden confusion to get himself off. So even if he's green, I still think Clarity is scum.

But he is not green. [IMO]


I'll address this after lynchtime because we need to get as much info out of cheese as possible atm.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:54 GMT
#945
On November 05 2012 09:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Because, this right now is the chance to prove my innocence. This would have been the stupidest move ever for scum. Rule #1 of being town: Prove your innocence. I just proved my innocence by taking the biggest risk ever, a VT claim based on the fact that the OP didn't indicate flavor. If I were scum, I should've known the moderator would have come and cleared it up and subsequently this occurring.


Does this mean you wouldn't have claimed if it was classic flavor and you were called Townie?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:59 GMT
#958
So who is it, you keep switching hoping that something will stick...
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 01:11 GMT
#985
I... don't know...
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 01:22 GMT
#992
The logical thing was to jump on me, why did he jump on Djo, then debears, then me?
I'll try and answer this myself but not now. I am seriously confused and need sleep. Back in 10 hours max.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#1050
On November 05 2012 17:28 da0ud wrote:
If a lynch for D2 : I am currently running for yourself (see my case) and Clarity (he knew that non-VT would have the VT role).

I did like Clarity's defense overnight, he sounded pretty honest to me. He has addressed calmly all the points against him. Just this slip is too much. He could be blue though, but I would not think he would have been that condescending if blue.

I still keep Debears somewhere there on top of the list, but he has been consistent in driving town forward. Yet there is a lot of fluff, useless posts ("ugh mispost", etc.). If he is scum we should be able to find some clues with more pieces of information on people's alignment in the near future.

I have a gut feeling on Rad. I will try to put a case on him during D2. If i cannot make a proper case with valid arguments against him, I will let you know why I find him to lay more townie then.


I asked marv about the flavor role PMs way before Cheese claimed. The reason I sounded so "condescending" (as you put it) is because I wanted him to shut up and explain why he claimed, and to try and stop others from claiming, but things went to shit fast. The reason I didn't say this earlier was because I had to check with marv if I was allowed to post this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 13:22 GMT
#1054
On November 05 2012 22:14 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

Why did you keep this information for yourself ?
Now that the thread is calmed down, could you explain in detail why you wanted to lynch Cheese ?



Because even from the perspective of a VT not knowing others know the flavor, his claim made no sense. After you got all the info (when marv posted everyone knew VT flavor) you didn't switch either, with the exact same information I had.
I didn't tell anyone because I figured scum would try what Cheese looked like he was trying. No point in telling scum that town knows they know about VT flavor.

I'd like to know your reasoning for staying on cheese as well.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 13:26 GMT
#1055
On November 05 2012 22:16 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: If you had checked this with marv way earlier than cheese claim, what prevented you from asking him the permission to share this info with everybody in the meantime ?


Nothing prevented me from doing that, I just didn't. It only occurred to me as I was about to post it that posting a mod pm might not be a good idea.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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