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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 11:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: This is not a policy. This is a rule. Just don't play the "Imma newb" card. Eh. Semantics on my part. Anyways. Why bring it up? Everyone here was from last game except obzy. And none of them actually played the noov card | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 11:52 Djodref wrote: @ Cheesecake Please refrain from joking when talking about scumtells. It's confusing. FoS Cheese Yeah. Definitely unwarranted fos FOS Djo 1) he was joking 2) it was obvious he was joking 3) it wasnt confusing | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote: It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean. I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it. Town motivations I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell Mafia motivations Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean You have to be kidding me. Cheese jokes a lot. Did you not read the scum qt from last game? The motivation from both perspectives is to have fun, especially early d1 when there's nothing to talk about. "Influence your read on debears". Really? Its early day 1. You all have plenty of time to read me.. ill have a big filter most likely. That's bullshit. Scummy bullshit | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Please expand on the bolded part of your post I quoted debears. D1 starts out with nothing to actually talk about. That's why policy is a starter in newbies. Everything starts out of complete nothingness in terms of accusations | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:08 Rad wrote: @djo I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough. Rad cheeses joking is a null tell. Check the scum qt from last game. Its his personality | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Its not really the pregame. He literally jokes and is pretty funny | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:13 Djodref wrote: @ Cheese Ok, you had motivations for doing this joke but it doesn't really help town while it could be done with mafia motivation. And, at least, I'm trying to dig something. Would you prefer me to discuss how we should use plurality lynch ? Dig something up? Why? Because you have nothing to actually accuse people with since you're scum? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:15 Djodref wrote: @ debears So, it's ok for you to be aggressive in the early game but it's not ok for me ? Would you say that joking about scumtells is ok ? Its not your aggression that bothers me. Its your reasoning, which is shitty. And yeah its ok. He joked at me. I joked at him. He joked back again when the thread wasnt really moving. Its his personality | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Okay, but you just meant early D1 right, not the entirety of it? It seems rather odd to go: "Yeah we should just joke around for now" He kept it to the QT though, he was serious in the thread, as he pointed out. We shouldn't try to meta read someone with a sample size of 1, but he is acting quite different than last game, and he was scum in that. So if he's scum and he didn't joke in the game (which he did) while joking in the qt a lot, wouldnt you say he is being more genuine, which is a townie trait? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:17 Rad wrote: @debears I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke. @djo Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something? He did joke in game. I can't quote on my phone. Here are some from memory "Holy meta argument batbears" "A wild djo appears" "Lurkerception" "Why djodref is scum : a compilation of quotes by mr. Cheesecake" | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:23 Djodref wrote: I've clearly explained the mafia motivations I've found for his joke. I'm far to be able to be certain of Cheese alignment but he is leaning slightly scummy right now, hence the FoS. It's also a warning for him to not joke about scum tells in the future. I find you very jumpy and very prompt to call me scum. Are you seriously that sure of my alignment this early in the game ? Why so aggressive ? Could you explain me your motivations ? You're only part of motivations was that he would be trying to cause confusions, yet you disregard his personality, which is the cause of his jokes. They are a null read. I'm not certain you're scum at all. I'm being aggressive to get answers. I'm being aggressive to kickstart this thread and actuallu start talking about who is scum. That post is silly. You call me "jumpy". I'm being active. I didn't suddenly come out of nowhere and jump on you. I jumped on alsn early on. So what? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:27 Rad wrote: Why are defending cheese's personality this game? We all get he's a funny guy and likes to joke. We only have 1 game from him to go on, and a scum QT. He could be acting different here for a variety of reasons. Why do you want us to get a town read on him just from being more genuine this game? Town motivation: Be more open and honest and townie. Scum motivation: Everyone knows his real personality now from the scum QT, he needs to switch it up or we'll be suspicious. It's a null tell. Why are you pushing the idea that it's a town tell? I said its a null tell. And when i said he was "genuine", that would be under the assumption that he didn't post jokes last game, which he did So, its a null tell | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:29 Djodref wrote: @ debears You just have showed that he was using jokes when they were serving his scum agenda. None of the jokes i quoted served a scum agenda. The only one that would come close to that was the title of his case on you. But the title wasnt serving a scum agenda, the case was | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:35 Djodref wrote: @ Cheese Your joke didn't pose any problem for me the first time (same for everyone I suppose) but I found it weird the second time I past through it. I have no problems with jokes and I'm making some myself. They are a null tell in general. But joking about scum tells is not really acceptable in my opinion and I've explained the possible mafia motivations I've seen behind it. So first you say his jokes last game served a scum agenda, which means they are scummy.. now you say jokes are a null tell, unless they are specifically joking about scumtells. Riddle me this. Why havent you fosed me for my joke fos on cheese in the beginning? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
That was addressed to cheese right? I would like to see him defend himself time | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:49 Clarity_nl wrote: I agree, this isn't much better than making a Djodref smiley case. I think the two things to take away from all this though: - Debears defended Cheese - Djodref tunneling Cheese Might become useful later. Besides stating the obvious, do you agree with me or djo on this? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 13:06 Djodref wrote: @ debears Did I answer your question ? I'm not sure which one you were talking about. I guessed it was the one about "why cheese and not me?" I need to go to attend a wedding at Souel Gardien Hoteal soon so I would like to know you have more questions. Yeah that answered it. Go have fun at the wedding (I've never been to one but I've heard shit gets pretty wild at the reception...hellz yeah) I can address you when you get back | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 13:11 Djodref wrote: @ Clarity Exactly, I think you everyone should just vote for his top scumread while giving enough reason to do so and then we start again from there and see who is likely to be lynched, be it 2 or 3 players. I think it's the best way to use plurality lynch. Considering only 2 possibilities narrows the discussion and allows mafia players to have some excuse to lynch town (cf Cheese last game lynching daoud in the daoud/ini match-up). The downfall is that the end of the day could be a bit messy. seriously.....why are we having to explain this? 1) Scumhunt 2) Vote for your top scumread 3) When the voting comes down to 2 candidates and lynch is near, pick one of two said candidates and give reasoning why you're voting them Is that clear enough for all of you to understand? Please stop talking about policy | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
I expect you all to have contributed something meaningful to this thread by the time I've woken up tomorrow. If not, you're on my shitlist for d1 | ||
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