EPTI want to vote Debears for again jumping right after Djo on the catching CC's slip and the voting on CC
He looks like town giving up now.
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I want to vote Debears for again jumping right after Djo on the catching CC's slip and the voting on CC He looks like town giving up now. [b]##Vote Debears[b/] | ||
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I understand this is stupid sh!t you said, but still you can focus on saving yourself for the sake of town. | ||
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On November 05 2012 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hey, he could be scum. I sure as hell ain't. Better than getting myself lynched when I know I'm green. Man, I am the only one trying to defend you and you say I might be scum ? You better turn green if you get killed otherwise i put myself in danger too.... Would be pretty dumb of me. I just think we changed our mind too fast from the Clarity, Sylver's tragets... | ||
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On November 05 2012 10:12 Rad wrote: good fight cheese Yeah, I think i fought for him more than himself... | ||
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I will be hard to get a good read out of this situation, was very easy for scum to jump in and vote him IMHO. | ||
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What if we had really tried to push Djodref for the lynch on D1 ? On November 05 2012 07:00 Clarity_nl wrote: @ debears I have the case in hand, I will post it if it looks like I'll be lynched, otherwise I will post it tomorrow. Djo was trying to pressure me into posting my case on him, starts adding that he won't be around for lynchtime, that's fine. I come back, you and him both have cases on me, and turns out Djo is in South Korea(??) so he's not around for 7 hours before lynchtime. He then points out that I just don't want him to put up a defense, says he's going to bed, replies to my post 10 minutes later emphasizing that if I post a case on him it just means I don't want him to be there to defend himself. I feel set up, but nothing I can do. I didn't go from "this" to "that". Notice how I said: "Yes Djo my case was going to be about you" I have not finished reading the thread, but this is exactly the way I feel about Djo's attitude that lynch. -> He asked to be put on the list of lynch candidates to prove his innocence. However this comes at 1.11am his time in Seoul, Korea (for those who still don't know. Btw Djo would be good if you could update your profile to show Korea instead of France, I am french as well though showing HK in my profile, we lost too much time with this confusion). On November 05 2012 01:11 Djodref wrote: I would like sylver to be considered as a lynch candidate for today as well. I have no problem with me being also a candidate (even if I would have preferred to address the possible cases against me not while waking up) because being mislynched last game allowed me to clearly see who was pushing me for bad reasons. I'm confident that you could recognize my innocence this time  And why nobody has yet commented on the newest slip from sylver ? This is pretty late for him to ask to be put as a lynch candidate and have time to prepare his defense. He has even used this trick against Clarity, saying he cannot defend himself on a case that is suppose to come. -> Moreover, Djo is the one who keeps quoting scum slips here and there subjectively. + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2012 20:22 Djodref wrote: @ sylverfyre So let me sum up the situation. You join the thread and directly vote for debears mainly because there is a lot of fluff in it. Then you say that you are voting him to "cast suspicion with your vote". I'm sorry but I'm voting somebody when I find them suspicious, not to cast suspicion on him. Do you know who is voting innocent players to cast suspicion on them ? Mafia. (Not sure if debears is innocent in this case, I have seen things I don't really like in his filter) I'm taking this for a scumslip and the most suspicious thing I have seen in this thread so far. ##Vote sylverfire @ Clarity It answers your question On November 04 2012 00:06 Djodref wrote: Well, I have voted for sylver before you for a different scumslip so I definitively agree  Anyway they are good points, the scumslip you have found is better than mine, his vote on you is quite unfounded and he has also totally forgot to mention me jumping on Cheese in his post. I think the chances for him to be scum are great. On November 04 2012 03:30 Djodref wrote: @ Cheese The word "townies" doesn't connote as "players". Kush helped me to understand this in my very first game on these forums. People don't use townies when they can use players. The meaning is different. It is a slip, so now we have to decided if it is a scumslip or not. The way sylver reacted to it makes me thing that it is a scumslip indeed. On November 04 2012 16:55 Djodref wrote: @ sylver So are you saying that debears is a townie ? Slipping again ? I'm not sure what you want to say by "he doesn't exactly look pristine". Could you elaborate ? -> Finally, Djo as jumped on the case against Cheese as soon as he slept.Not budging from his position. I was wrong saying that Debears sheeped on this one. He votes CC first, fair enough, then Djo voted again. Here are three of his consecutive posts : + Show Spoiler + On November 05 2012 09:02 Djodref wrote: @ Cheese So, it's ok for you to get the thread derailed for a joke at one hour before the lynch ? Why did you claim, for real ? On November 05 2012 09:03 Djodref wrote: I still want my Clarity lynch by the way On November 05 2012 09:19 Djodref wrote: WHY DID YOU CLAIM AT THIS MOMENT, CHEESE ? MOTIVATIONS ? ##Unvote ##Vote Cheese What happened to you wanting your "Clarity lynch " ?Conclusion : I think Djo is blending in, attacking people on small things (nitpicking himself while pointing out we should not nitpick in his post), and try to prove his innocence by showing his is able to fight his way against a lynch while bullying people who would actually do it because he won't be here to do so. | ||
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On November 05 2012 15:02 Djodref wrote: I don't like Clarity early reaction to Cheese claim. Among Rad, debears and Clarity, he is the only one to doubt Cheese's claim before Marv post. I think that Clarity is mafia and had the information beforehand (the information that the VT role PM was dispatched to everybody). This is a good, point. Let's look in depth how people reacted to this claim. I took me a long time to actually understand how this was actually so bad a claim (apart from the fact it was not necessary as he was not in danger) because I jumped over a few pages in order to participate to the vote. I did not see the mod post stating that everyone received the spoiler of the VT PM. Now it makes sense to rewind and see how did find it a null claim before Marv jumped in. | ||
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On November 05 2012 08:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Go to the OP. Click under Vanilla Townie. Read the end of that vote post. Realize. Can someone explain me what he meant here ? | ||
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On November 05 2012 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote: I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT? Even though Clarity, explained why he said that, I think this post is still very odd. He said that in such a condescending manner, like : "yeah whatever, i can claim as well, it doesn't prove anything, | ||
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On November 05 2012 15:34 Rad wrote: Mr. Cheesecake, being a VT, got a post that explains that he's a Regular Fapper (VT). He noticed that the OP did not have this information in the Vanilla Townie spoiler. He then assumed that no one else but VTs had this information. In order to somehow get all other VTs on the same lines (go VT power I guess), he tried to throw that info out as a sort of town tell that only VTs would pick up. Unfortunately, he didn't realize that every single person in the game got the information that VTs are Regular Fappers. Thanks I got it as well, usually indeed the OP posts shows the real roles, or the day1 post adds a spoiler at the end of it. I think it is pro-scum to have given them the VT role in their PM while not letting the VTs themselves know about this fact.... | ||
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On November 05 2012 15:51 Djodref wrote: It's not that he didn't realize it, it's that he didn't know it. And it is not natural to think that the flavor for the VT role PM has been given to everybody, especially for a newbie like Clarity. This on top of the precedent cases against him. He is most certainly scum ! @ Rad Did you see how he avoided to discuss with me after this post + Show Spoiler + On November 04 2012 17:29 Djodref wrote: Wouldn't you mind to discuss what you have against me right now ? I'm going to have to sleep before the deadline and I don't want to have to defend your case against me while waking up and catching the thread. Plus it's going to be likely that I need to decide my vote at this time so I would prefer to focus on analysis rather than defense at that time. I find it odd that you don't want to go after Cheese as well. He should be looking quite scummy in your eyes right now because he didn't answer your question. Also, if I want to sum up his contribution so far, he is just tunneling me after an OMGUSy FoS on me. If we have a jailer, I would like him to block Clarity. If we have a cop, I would like him to invest someone esle (because of framer). If we have a medic, I wouldn't mind protection for the night. What would blocking Clarity change ? I would imagine blocking him to avoid him killing someone tonight, but there is another scum person so someone would get killed anyway. If there is another reason, please enlighten me. | ||
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I have never been scum in my previous games (and this one doesn't matter cause N1 has just started - so don't take this as a claim, even if i were scum I would probably not know...). Thus, I am wondering if only one of the scum team decides to kill or they all conduct the act together ? If only one kills, it would make some sense indeed to put Clarity in jail. | ||
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On November 05 2012 16:07 Djodref wrote: @ daoud You are right but this kind of reasoning could lead us into a WIFOM hell. In my honest opinion, Clarity is very likely to be scum, so a possible jailkeeper would have good chances to prevent him from killing. Maybe the mafia is going to listen to me as well and use the other member to carry the night kill, maybe they are going to use Clarity anyway, maybe I'm totally wrong and Clarity is town. I don't know and I don't even know if we have a jailkeeper but I would say that it's the best thing for him to do. Anyway, it's down to the jailkeeper decision (if he exists), he could also decide to jail me to give me protection. I wouldn't mind this Why do you think you would need more protection than anyone else ? First the medic, now the jailkeeper ? I feel more concerned about being NKed than you. People are being suspicious about you, which is good for the scum team if you are town. I was the one to scream out loud not to lynch CC this way. I had the trauma in my first game when we all decided to lynch austin at the last moment out of more or less nothing. Mementoss did try to save him and got NKed right after. | ||
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On November 05 2012 16:27 Djodref wrote: @ daoud I'm pretty sure that Clarity is part of the scumteam and I'm obviously going to push for a Clarity lynch tomorrow. If I am right, the mafia team would better do to kill me than letting me alive, even if I'm looking suspicious. Also, publicly requesting medic or jailkeeper is kind of a bluff. I want the mafia team to eat their part of WIFOM ^^ 1) Why so ? Everyone is still putting Clarity as a priority for the lynch tomorrow. Everyone knows you want to put a case on him (and maybe..... someone else - still pending). If you get killed it will be even more obvious to go look after him if he is in the scumteam. 2) Your answer doesnt satisfy me too very much : another time you find a way out to telling you were setting a trap. What about the trap if you say it's a trap..... | ||
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