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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 00:44 GMT
#1614
If the flavour text for this lynch isn't ready by the time I want to sleep tonight, I'm going to take a very stern tone with whichever host is responsible after the game! Just saying!

/hides
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 01:02 GMT
#1617
Damnit, goon.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 01:06 GMT
#1620
Well, it's a step in the right direction at least. Although we're not out of the woods yet, I think sleep is in order. Gj guys, let's keep it up.

Also, gg Clarity, see you in the post-game!
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 14:51 GMT
#1680
On November 08 2012 15:55 da0ud wrote:
Would there be any chance that Djo could have fakeclaimed as mafia RB in order to bully/buss his partner Clarity ?
Let's just get this out of the way. Take my word for it(as the chances are pretty high I will die tonight) Djo is 100% confirmed town no matter what period.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:07 GMT
#1682
Given what we know about the mechanics of this game. A roleblocker can kill me tonight with impunity. There's absolutely no reason to not do so, so if there is, he will. I guess a roleblocker could theoretically kill djod and roleblock me if he has good reason to suspect Djod won't target him tonight, but I don't see the point in doing that(the outcome will be the same, one confirmed town killed, one confirmed town left alive) other than that the final scum wanting to mindfuck us with regards to whom we suspect. In any case, the latter is only really possible if Djod picks the wrong target, a situation where we would get mindfucked either way.

If there's not a roleblocker and Djod targets the remaining scum, no one will die and it should be pretty easy to figure out an optimal course of action during the next day based on who he actually targeted.

Basically, I think the only thing we can really control is Djod's target tonight, he should just take great care to try and pick the correct one. I should obviously use my power on someone in the hopes that there isn't actually a roleblocker, but the success of it is completely out of my hands.

That being said, I'll try and actually go through some filters before I (probably) die tonight in the hopes of finding some actual evidence.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:08 GMT
#1683
Woah, Ninjaed.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:11 GMT
#1685
sylver, I think this game was pretty unique in the way it progressed. I don't think you should listen to people criticising you for your filter. No one would base a case on that(or if they did, no one would listen to that particular argument).

There was a problem in the setup which marv was forced to correct really quickly but unfortunately he didn't have time to do so(I made a stupid statement which Rad found before I figured out what was happening or what it meant).

I'll hold off on stating the details until there's an official word about the game's end, but yea, I don't think this game was particularly fair against mafia because of it. :/
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:14 GMT
#1686
Sylver, the posting at night thing is just a host preference thing here on TL I think. There's a good reason why talking during the night is not allowed in IRC games, because then scum would be forced to try and talk to each other and make it look like they were participating in the town during a pretty short interval. With a 24 day long night there's not nearly as much stress and pressure on people to make it easy to find out why people may or may not be posting "as much" as during the day.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:17 GMT
#1687
In hindsight, I think you guys did pretty well considering. I'd say your biggest mistake was not outright stating that you were suspicious of the circumstances around the Cheese lynch. I had exactly one way in which I could find you town and that was because I found the positions you ended up in were so hard that you couldn't possibly have planned it(both of your main suspects Cheese and debears dying D1 and N1).
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:22 GMT
#1688
On November 09 2012 00:02 sylverfyre wrote:
My night 1 action was to roleblock Alsn. (Had you pegged!) We killed debears mostly because of activity.
Woah. I bet that was because of my statements around the lynch? Why does everyone hate me.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:27 GMT
#1691
Oh and yea, I definitely agree that Obzy plays better than he gives himself credit for. Had he just not bothered with the somewhat self-demeaning attitude coupled with higher confidence in his reads, he would've been the very model of a text book VT.

Bah, why the fuck Djodref left his posting hat in my room I have no idea...
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:28 GMT
#1692
On November 09 2012 00:27 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 00:22 Alsn wrote:
On November 09 2012 00:02 sylverfyre wrote:
My night 1 action was to roleblock Alsn. (Had you pegged!) We killed debears mostly because of activity.
Woah. I bet that was because of my statements around the lynch? Why does everyone hate me.


@ Alsn

I thought that your Cheesecake case was a way out for your scumbuddy
It was the first time to see you post a case in a condensed post after only 2 hours
On top of that, there was some serious double standards involved.
You were somewhat right that I made that case pretty quickly. But I type pretty fast.

Also, I had been slightly suspicious of Cheese for a long time(I blame Obzy! He kept dropping those god damn hints!) so I had a pretty good idea of why I found him scummy.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:36 GMT
#1694
Also, Djod, you were convinced Clarity was scum for a really long time, right? Because I wasn't and I definitely didn't see his claims about the Cheese incident as impossible, just unlikely. Given that we now know that Rad actually did PM marv to ask about the VT flavour the speculation for why he said what he did seems entirely plausible.

I kept thinking that there was a chance that he was telling the truth about trying to "fake" a possibility for scum that he was either blue/VT but was really VT in order to protect the real blues(you and me) until he claimed cop.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:37 GMT
#1695
Poor marv, we are completely disrespecting his end-game post.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 15:57:36
November 08 2012 15:57 GMT
#1700
Yea, the problem with the setup was that we blue roles did not in fact know about the VT role PM.

Actually though, I didn't even pay much attention to Cheese's Regular Fapper claims. I think I probably realised in the back of my head somewhere that he was saying that he was VT, but I didn't pay much attention to it until the thread blew up.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 15:58 GMT
#1701
And yea, thanks for the game. It was fun to not be a VT for once. Having to post breadcrumbs was really stressful though. I was really paranoid about people thinking that maybe I didn't really misspell that word.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 16:00 GMT
#1703
Oh and yea, I figured SDM would pick up on my cop breadcrumb. :D I was actually wondering if he was in the /obs QT.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 16:13 GMT
#1709
Damn I gotta check your scum QT, I want know how you reacted to the whole Cheese incident.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 16:18:09
November 08 2012 16:16 GMT
#1711
Also Clarity, I'd like to post something that I asked Hapa in one of my "pliiz coach me bro" ramblings.

I'm finding it hard to find the confidence in believing his[Clarity's] lynch will flip red, mostly because of how difficult it has been to actually make a convincing argument that he is. About the only "sure" tell that I have is his reaction to the whole VT claim ordeal and that's only because I know for a fact he's not blue, he could still be telling the truth about "finding out" and just be an overzealous VT trying to protect the blue players through not claiming. Comparatively, I could make a Rad or Obzy scum case in my sleep. Or even da0ud, possibly, but I'm not 100% sure on that.


I don't actually know if I was entirely right on that last point, because I never actually tried to make a case against either of them. But I found it really hard to find convincing evidence against you other than the Cheese incident™.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 16:28 GMT
#1715
On November 09 2012 01:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
That is a good thing, right? :D

edit: Basically, I claimed blue to pull you into the open. With the tiny tiny chance rad is bluffing and there's no counter claim.
Yes, that's how I meant it anyway. :D

Oh, I see, yea, I kinda figured that was it but I couldn't be sure. In that same PM to Hapa I just quoted I rambled on about my role probably being useless even if I didn't claim(because I figured I'd look scummy and Djod or an actual scum would block me if I didn't claim) so I was expecting having to claim if people stopped suspecting you and started figuring that I was scum for some reason.
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