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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 01 2012 19:59 GMT
#259
On November 02 2012 04:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey, I already caught scum:
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On November 01 2012 08:51 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Everyone, I think that he is trying to create something out of nothing. For goodness sake, this twisting of words must stop.
##Unvote
##Vote: Hopeless1der

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On November 01 2012 10:24 BroodKingEXE wrote:
To Hopeless, TL.net went down again, so I wasn't to post in the voting thread.


I even replied right after you said you couldn't post in the voting thread, quoting the voting thread with your vote:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2012 10:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 01 2012 08:52 BroodKingEXE wrote:
##Vote: Hopeless1der

u srs?

, and thought it was pretty self-evident, but clearly I needed to spell things out.

Jerking the thread around isn't a good idea. Keeping things focused, like my scumread on you, is a good idea to me.



Look at BKE's filter and show me where he hunts scum

Quacks, TL.net had gone down so I thought when you said this + Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2012 09:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
Guess what, BKE? Have you verified you voted correctly? I dont think you have. Just when I thought you were being straight and true! Keep in mind, I wasn't the only one who thought what you did was scummy, I was just the one who put a vote behind my opinion of your posting. Looks like an OMGUS to me, and that's actually the only reason I see behind your vote. Maybe there's a little more you'd like to add?
my vote hadn't made it to the server. Real story, check TL's twitter the power was out yesterday.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 01 2012 21:05 GMT
#262
BH, I dont check twitter at that time. Cause of the power outage I thought my vote hadn't gone in, I didn't check the timing of the outage. Derp me just looked at the post and said the outage must have fucked up the vote.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 01 2012 21:25 GMT
#265
On November 02 2012 06:05 Mementoss wrote:

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On November 02 2012 04:22 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On November 02 2012 01:52 Mementoss wrote:
Keirathi


Okay so some preface, I think Keirathi has been slipping through this game without being mentioned too much. So I decided to look at his filter and noticed some scummy things. Lets go through it.

Part I: Spreading Accusations

All game, Keirethi has been spreading accusations very very subtly while never going deeper into them, he has yet to give a strong opinion that he thinks would be good for a lynch. Overall, hes looking active while not doing anything to push a scum lynch. His play seems to represent someone that doesn't care who gets lynched at all. Lets look at a couple examples of this:

On November 01 2012 03:38 Keirathi wrote:
'Kay, so how is my question to Chezinu unimportant? Looks to me like he wanted all of our blues to claim. Maybe its just me, having never played with Chezinu, but that was a pretty anti-town plan.

Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him.


His questions at chezinu seem to hint that he thinks what he is doing is scummy and pushing scum agenda, yet he just calls him ut on an anti town plan and never follows up.

He says on its own its not scummy, than hints that his meta doesn't match so its a bit "weird". Never commits completely to his opinion on thinking hes scummy, but ends with scummy but not enough to vote him. Gives him an out if he flips red, that he didn't defend him he just couldnt make up his mind.

On November 01 2012 14:00 Keirathi wrote:
On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote:
Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy.

Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ?


On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:
On October 31 2012 11:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.

Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie!


Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.

The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now.

I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum.

ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that.

Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.

##Vote Crossfire

Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make.


Again says its weird, not scummy. Just says it makes zero sense. Keirathi has zero desire to get a lynch going today, and he is afraid to commit. Hes leaving himself many avenues open for later when he decides to vote.

On November 02 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote:
On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:
gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully.

On November 01 2012 01:22 Blazinghand wrote:
The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.

breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation.


I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives?

Forgive me for not commenting on this sooner sooner, but I just now had the available time to do the research. Go back and look at Aperture 2. He literally made a case/accusation against EVERY SINGLE PLAYER day 1. Its just such a huge disconnect from "everyone is scummy, lets question/accuse them!" to "well, this one guy is kinda scummy because he hasn't posted as much as I expect him to". Just my opinion, but this doesn't really fit the town gonzaw that I remember either.


Again spreading some suspicion on gonzaw. Not saying hes scummy per sae but saying his meta doesn't fit aperature 2. And ALSO he doesn't mention that gonzaw was traitor in aperture 2, and he won with scum, so this meta doesn't even make sense. He doesn't follow up with in game evidence or even ask gonzaw to clarify anything. This brings me to my next point.

Part II - Doesn't fit the meta

Every game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case.

Part III - Active Lurker

Keirathi has been actually quite active in this game at many times, however he has only put down a few lines every time he has been here, and choses not to discuss the current parts of the thread. He timeline seems to sprinkle at many times in the thread, indicating he is chosing not to contribute in his normal town manner, or he doesn't overly care about finding scum. Just to separate himself from the major lurkers in this game.

He also has been excessively lazy this game and making excuses.

On October 31 2012 14:02 Keirathi wrote:
On October 31 2012 13:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Perhaps click on his profile and check for yourself?

Quite simple really.

Red he has never been.


Sure, I could have checked myself, but you already did the research Totally easier to just ask you to share.


On October 31 2012 13:33 Keirathi wrote:
On October 31 2012 12:44 Crossfire99 wrote:
Gosh, what have we here?
On October 31 2012 12:22 Keirathi wrote:
'Sup, everyone. Time to get rid of those pesky musicians.

How have you not posted on what has happened so far? I seem to remember the talkative little townie in Aperature that wasn't afraid to comment on anything.

Keirathi was enjoying some Diablo 3 with a buddy. Looking back over the posts since I chimed it, it doesn't look like theres really a whole lot to comment on. Maybe its just me, but while this posting restriction is very entertaining, its quite hard to say exactly what you mean.


He is apathetic. He knows better than this, there is never gunna be anyting to comment on unless you push the discussion, which keirathi has not beeen trying to do like his normal town self. Making an excuse to blame the mechanics for not posting.

##Unvote
##Vote: Keirathi


[-]

Other stuff:

Alright so Im still not sure on crossfire, but I think there are more likely places to catch scum than him so im taking my vote off him. I can see what hes doing from both alignments, so I shouldn't make a solid choice on only that. His reaction didn't really lead me any further with more of an opinion on him.

Probably 2nd scummiest player imo is BKE, I agree with SnB on his thoughts on him.

Dingaling, is also an option but it would be strictly policy lynch at this point. I think he is more likely unactive than lurking.

When is deadline? 10 hours? We need to somewhat start consolidating or discussing your straight up two best scum reads asaply.

Bottom part is so scummy, because you basically say your vote for Keir isn't pushed by your case but by the lack of Xfire's scummness. Cause of this, it shows me that you have no confidence in this case about Keir, because you had to justify a vote change. Dingaling shouldn't even be included in this post as you already have two scum reads, why would you support a policy lynch when you have two scum?

Eyeing one of Hopeless posts, I noticed I hadn't unvoted and voted is that what you guys are saying Im am being hypocritical on?

BHow does it show that at all. CI was just verifying/ re-evaluating my read on crossfire because people were still mentioning it.

Knuckling down here, this is not clarifying anything about your read. Look at what you say "I think there are more likely places to catch scum that him", you initially had a scum read on him, so your read has changed from scum to less likely scum. Moseying down after the bolded part, you say that he is doing neutral posting. No where do you clarify your stance, you just confuse the hell out of us. On my bolded part, it doesn't make sense to say you are unvoting Xfire explicitly because it implies that you think his neutrality is a bigger tell than your own Keir case.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 01 2012 21:26 GMT
#266
##Unvote
##Vote: Mementoss
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 01 2012 22:18 GMT
#270
X/ going after you makes no sense cause I have a townread on you, MMT's Keir case isnt even enough for him to vote for Keir. You see MMT needed to convince himself that Xfire wasn't scum to believe his own case, which means that his Keir case is shitty in his own opinion. Zoinks! Another thing is he is supporting a policy lynch when he has a case up, policy lynches D1 are only for townies that have no outright scum reads. But he supposedly has two: Keir and me, yet he still feels the need to push a policy lynch which he could use later if something unaccounted for comes up before the lynch. Coming to a conclusion, Xfire's neutrality over Keir's scumminess means that he doesn't even believe in his own case.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 01 2012 23:16 GMT
#283
XD, Im back after my timeout. You'll need to understand I think the statement in question means Memtoss doesn't believe in his own case. Zeroing back in he didn't explain his stance on Xfire at all, its all a bunch of fluff.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#303
X marks the BH! You think MMT is town why say you?
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#305
Zoinks WTF...
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 02 2012 00:54 GMT
#314
Damn, forgot Keir hadn't voted. I have one last trick, whoever is still here read this filter from LVI. The situation is very similar to what I have got myself into this game. READ THIS I said something and my lack of attention botched everything up.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 02 2012 01:10 GMT
#326
I damn failed
GL town
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 09 2012 22:58 GMT
#1015
Sorry, for my horrible play this game, I got confused so hard.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 09 2012 23:07 GMT
#1020
I had the blue role with no role, from what I gleaned from the OP we received our role at the beggining of each day. This would mean I would be unverifiable till D3. Its a pretty tough claim to defend.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 00:27:49
November 10 2012 00:22 GMT
#1029
On November 10 2012 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
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On November 10 2012 08:07 Adam4167 wrote:
On November 10 2012 07:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 07:58 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Sorry, for my horrible play this game, I got confused so hard.


It happens. Next time, though, rolelcaim if you're going to be lynched. We all have games where we play a bit scummy and end up attracting votes, but when you're Blue you have a trump card to play-- you should have played it.

On November 10 2012 07:59 Adam4167 wrote:
I'm not butt at all, just some advice.

I cant help but feel that it probably lead to hopeless shooting me, which was a terrible shot.


I didn't shoot you, I didn't lynch you, and I had numerous opportunities to do both. If you're not personally capable enough to prove yourself townie against a feint from me, that's not my problem. Maybe you should be talking to the guy who shot you, or examining your own play, since you were the one who absorbed a bullet.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I did find you a bit scummy. You weren't really worth a bullet though, and certainly not a lynch.


Relax a bit would you? The point of post game discussion is to talk about the game and how it unfolded.


Fair enough. Just some advice for you.

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On November 10 2012 08:07 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I had the blue role with no role, from what I gleaned from the OP we received our role at the beggining of each day. This would mean I would be unverifiable till D3. Its a pretty tough claim to defend.


So you knew you were a blue, and still didn't claim? You could have claimed your name, at least. Like, why not employ that tool to keep yourself alive?

TBH I didnt think I was gonna get lynched. I was expecting gonzaw to vote for MMT, he clearly had a town read on me. It totally caught me off guard. I mean you saw what happened with Gonzaw and MMT, because of it.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
November 10 2012 06:14 GMT
#1049
I like how SnB was talking to himself in the scum QT
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:31:23
November 10 2012 17:31 GMT
#1054
You both smoke too much
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