I've probably missed something along the line during all of our setup discussion, but this is where I stand now:

I'm going to trust thrawn's claim again. I won't say that I don't think he *could* be lying, but the crumb was good, and I can't point at a post of thrawn's that I find scummy. I'll question it again if risk doesn't flip scum.

The only possible scum are: risk and release

The only possible sk are: risk, release, kush

I still think Release is innocent because of that comment that Prome and I discussed earlier. Prome disagrees with me, but I don't see someone with a "guilty conscious" making the post that Release did. I might be persuadable, but I think Release is town.

At that point, the only person left on my scum list is risk, so ##Vote risk.nuke

That would leave kush as the sk, but we'll get to that when the time comes.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 11 2012 03:39 GMT

#1664

It's the discussion starting with this post. I think the chances of scum or sk saying that are far less than town.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 11 2012 04:24 GMT

#1666

Wait, you think I'm scum?

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 11 2012 19:45 GMT

#1700

Are your only options for scum DP and risk?

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 11 2012 21:46 GMT

#1713

Care to share your reasoning? Because I am what I've claimed to be.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 11 2012 23:56 GMT

#1730

Agreed.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 12 2012 00:30 GMT

#1738

I changed my mind. For some reason I didn't consider risk being sk. Since he was sk, it means kush isn't sk. And since kush isn't sk, I can completely throw out my case on you two. Was admittedly bad play to begin with.

Kush is guaranteed town, since him being scum relies on thrawn lying, which would mean 2 scum.
DP has his claim, and has played incredibly townish all game. If he's scum, he deserves to win XD
Prome can't be scum because there was a kill last night and he was jailed.
I can't be scum because I know my role and I am not scum

Thrawn could theoretically be scum, but my theory was based majorly around his interactions with sk kush. Again, admittedly bad play that I always said I'd never do (unflipped association theories), but almost everything seemed to fit so well, and I got carried away with it. I don't think I could point out a post in his filter that I find to be overtly scummy.
Aaaaand Release. Release is the only one left. Boom!

Theoretical if Release isn't scum
5-1
lynch Release (4-1)
If release isn't scum, scum kills someone (3-1)

After that we lynch thrawn because I'm town. In thrawn's case, we lynch me because he says he's town. Not sure what everyone else might be thinking. Either way, lynching Release feels like the best bet. Does anyone think that thrawn is scummier than Release?

Let me know if I missed anything. I think it's pretty solid.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 12 2012 01:53 GMT

#1750

It's not just your claim, it's how townie you've been all game. I said that...
I find your claim more reliable than either of ours. And I find both your's and mine more reliable than thrawn's. While I'm clearly biased by my own knowledge, I feel that anyone claiming to have jailed prome was unlikely to be lying about it. If the sk decided to kill prome, then any scum rb claiming to have jailed him would be outed instantly as a liar. It's a risk (heh) that as scum I don't think I would take, and I don't think you would either. There's also the fact that it would make more sense to breadcrumb roleblocker rather than jailer. You don't gain anything by lying about which fake role you have, so why not just give yourself the real role?
Thrawn's crumb was good, and that I've never denied. The only reason I feel like I'm still questioning it is because I think it's an easy claim for scum to make. They crumb 1-shot cop, call someone town, then get a free ride to endgame. At this point I don't think he's scummy, but if it comes down to him vs me, I know who it is.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 12 2012 23:03 GMT

#1784

So... lynch Release?

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 12 2012 23:04 GMT

#1787

##Vote Release

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

November 13 2012 01:30 GMT

#1836

Sorry, been playing LoL with friends, typing when I have the time. And I realized right after I posted my "lynch release" post that I didn't vote. Didn't even refresh before voting.

My thoughts going into the daypost were that either thrawn or release must be scum. For the most part my feelings have remained the same.

I was reasonably ninja'd by DP (my thoughts are similar to his), but here's my breakdown anyway:

My thoughts on everyone left in the game. It's pretty much varying degrees of towniness.

Release. I did have that one post from Release that I felt made him innocent. I don't think a single person agreed with me, and have such abandoned my thoughts as incorrect. Aside from that post, there's nothing that struck me as townie about him. With most of the others, excluding maybe kush, I have townie feelings about them. In addition, Release being jailed N2, as well as him being jailed tonight, are the best explanations I have for the missing kp both nights.

Thrawn. I can't recall having seen a post that made me think thrawn was scum. Prome brings up a good point that I mentioned earlier, however, that thrawn hasn't really been the town leader that I expected him to be coming into the game. That, and the ease with which scum could claim cop (imo) make me think he could be scum. Or he could have just been busy from his birthday/something-else-that-I-forgot weekend.

Kush. I saw kush as confirmed town because if he was scum, then thrawn was scum, which I feel breaks the game somewhat. Ofc, if there were two godfathers in the game then thrawn could be telling the truth and kush would be scum. Based on his play alone I think I'd want to lynch kush over thrawn, but something keeps making me want to vote thrawn over kush. I'll try to figure out what that is in particular.

DP. He's played a townie game. I don't see why a roleblocker would claim jailer because the sk could have killed his rb'd target. One of the last people I would vote for.

Prome. Confirmed town I believe. Wouldn't vote for.

Myself. I'm a one-shot jailkeeper. My D2 lynch candidates were drazak and hopeless1der. I jailed my top townread N2 so that he wouldn't die. If I'm scum, it means that both scum and the sk targeted kush on N2, which I find to be incredibly unlikely. Therefore, town. Also I saw a PM that said so