scum shot sk. sk shot prom. rbs were inconsequential.
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scum shot sk. sk shot prom. rbs were inconsequential. | ||
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That's making me think he's town. | ||
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Ok, convince me. Make a case on Kush that explains some of the following. Kush is an extremely unlikely SK. I tried making a case for him and couldn't. The problem is that voting behaviour. It's not something an SK would do. SKs don't pull stupid voting shenanigans, because they don't give a crap about the lynch, as long as it's not their head on the line. Do you feel lime that was all an elaborate act? To what purpose? Is kush even the kind of player who can pull that off? Imho you have to be Ace to even come up with that kinda stuff, let alone pull it off convincingly. And then, what's it all for? Kush is also unlikely scum. We already had the green check. We now have a roleblock claim. As far as I can see, the only way of this happening is if scum deliberately didn't roleblock (or roleblocked Prom) and took advantage of the missing block to claim RB'd themselves. Two problems here: The first is that the claim doeqsn't feel like a lie. It has frivolous details like the "I got a PM". That is too much effort for a lie: It describes a process. People lieing don't imagine the full scenario, just the relevant stuff, which would be "I was RB'd", without the extras. The second is that Kush already has the green check AND he claimed VT. Why have him claim RB'd, rather than his scumbuddy? This together makes him unlikely scum, but if we find a framer, I will reconsider this second part. | ||
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On November 08 2012 20:40 risk.nuke wrote: Show me evidence to why you think Innocent Wabbit being red seems bugsy. for now, ##Vote: Drazek Just the general impression I get of Bugs' sense of humor after multiple games and conversations. Bugs likes a good troll. Making Innocent Wabbit a scum role is trolly. I see you dodged the question, though... | ||
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Do you have a town read on risk.nuke? I don't. If you don't, then why would you not just wait to hear the answer? Now go away, you've done enough damage in this game and I want to hear from risk, not you. | ||
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I have a fairly decent scumread on risk by now, meaning I thought the chance of any claim by him would be a fake claim, so I made up some stuff about Innocent Wabbit. Could it be true? Yes, but I have no clue what goes on in WBG's head, nor is there any point to try to figure it out that way. What I wanted and DID was to pressure risk on his claim. Rather than just giving me his normal aggression off the bat, he got a bit hesitant. No big tell, so I pressured a bit more... and I get an OMGUS in response. It's not much, but the little bits are piling up. Combine that with DP looking increasingly townie and my not being able to make sense of an SK or scum Kush yet, makes me more and more certain risk is scum. His play is increasingly off his town meta, his vote on hopeless was lacadaisical at best. I am still waiting for some things for it all to make sense (particularly the flip), but I am quite confident I have the scumteam figured out in Drazak and Risk. | ||
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On November 08 2012 21:51 risk.nuke wrote: You're the one pushing for no-lynches and accusing people of scum for made up reasons. And you're having problem with what to think about me... Some people posted their reads rather openly this game... others just shut the hell up and never said anything in the last 72 hours or so except for a rather cryptic list. Now I am used to you not being very talkative when playing, but I am used to you caring. I know it's old, but here is you in GoT mafia: + Show Spoiler [risk.nuke caring] + On March 25 2012 07:30 risk.nuke wrote: Okey Risen, I'm going to tell you this once and slowly, Layabout posted legit reasoning for his vote. You are the one who is dragged behind a horse. On March 25 2012 07:44 risk.nuke wrote: Btw townies, do you know how sad it is that the most pro-town person besides myself is the third party. Townies do you understand waht that means? Can you fathom how lousy you're playing. I wish the mafia would kill me tonight you so I don't have to play with you useless lurkers, morons and dumb-posters anymore. On March 30 2012 00:05 risk.nuke wrote: Chaoser you have hardly discussed anything exept the two players risen and acro. Your filter is useless because I look at it and I don't have clue where you stand and you don't seem to have any intention of changing that. You're supposed to be one of the better players in this game but you have so few opinions, you don't post or bring up stuff yourself but just lurk unless directly asked something. I don't like this casual lurking without opinions because thats how you played in hammermafia. What do you think of Alderan and Greymist. Who are your scumreads? On April 01 2012 02:40 risk.nuke wrote: I'm exhausted. 8 hour examas does that. So basicly the Zealous lynch is bad, 1. Zealous is one of the few more active people. 2. He's done some few bad stuff but he's also done some good stuff which is completely ignored which I just find curious. The rest of the people. + Show Spoiler + gumshoe Jitsu Alderan chaoser Lyter Xatalos GreYMisT sinensis evantrees Looking at them right now there are two people I don't want to lynch. Meet Jitsu and Zealous. People I want to lynch more. You know how I feel about GreYMisT and he's looking bad from the layabout lynch vote-count. He was pushing risen but slow to vote him and it continues like that. I believe in odds and not badluck. But mostly I have gotten the feeling during the entire game that he's playing the game like he scum would play it. From when I know he's watching but doesn't post to how he chooses to post. I get scumchills and I'm probably right because I'm fairly smart. Alderan: I can't remember perfectly and i'm to lazy to go look though his filter. But there were scummy stuff in there, got a bunch of (-) from when I looked over it yesterday so it's there. Also, alot of flipped townies showed suspicion against him and what dead townies think counts alot. I think these two have the highest percentage to flip red. People I want to lynch. Chaoser: This guy isn't this bad. So either he's scum or he gives 0 shit about the game. And last time he did this he was scum. (Hammer mafia if you want to check) gumshoe: This guy is not forgotten. People I want to lynch less. Lyter Xatalos sinensis evantrees You might be wondering why I have labeled you as People I want to lynch "less". I'll tell you why. It's because you don't post. You have posted scummy things, or you've been unlucky and been on the wrong side with your opinions. It's all lead you to the same place. The place where you're suspicious. In a normal game when a person gets under suspicion they have to post to try and clear themselves. It is the pro-town way if you're a townie under suspicion. But it's also to be understood that in most mafia games everyone look town, so there isn't more then one or two people at a time. The threat of they beeing lynched is very real. This is the first game I play where instead of primarily trying to find the scum I'm trying to determine who's the safest bet for scum because logicly you can't all be scum. A problem for me here is none of you feel the threat or pressure of beeing lynched so you don't give a shit about trying to clear yourselves. If you don't say anything and if you don't have any opinions you push for I can't read you. In any other game you would had been dead by now. Any other game Day 4 and you looked like you do here you would be regarded as confirmed-scum. Here is a case you made quite a bit into the game in LC mafia: + Show Spoiler [LC Mafia] + On October 09 2012 23:32 risk.nuke wrote: I was checking into the day-1 lynch. Z-Bozon. clicky. Scroll up and you'll see the votes. It's tied at 7-7 with an hour to the deadline. What does Z-boz do. He unvotes and votes for Coag who as no votes and practicly no chance of beeing lynched. Making the lynch standings 7 on shady and 6 on node. Cares enough to go back over the voting thread and post his findings in detail. There is nothing REMOTELY similar in your play this game. Lets see, we have this: On November 02 2012 00:14 risk.nuke wrote: You should had given it more time, so you know next time. You could had safely dropped this 12 hours before the deadline and Muso's lynch would had been ensured. Regardless. ##unvote ##vote Muso Does not care about whether Muso is guilty or not. Just about getting Muso lynched. On November 04 2012 00:03 risk.nuke wrote: How are you supposed to get a read on me? It should make it blatantly obvious where I stand when I give you straight forward opinions. Meta: Go ahead! As far as I know you have exactly 1 scum game, which was funky weird. Not much meta to go on, buddy. And, your meta is off, compared to GoT mafia, when I got my first, and most memorable, look at you (since then we've been in some themed games together, but this is the first normal in a long time). Anyway, the main point is that you have "opinions". You say things like On November 02 2012 01:59 risk.nuke wrote: nice 180 prplhz. and then we are supposed to see this as: On November 04 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote: Hillarious how you can bring up a post of me pressuring people, dismiss it as scummy and then accuse me of never pressuring people. Two wrongs with one stone. Additionally I was pressuring prplhz hard just before he quit. Then I was leading on the Muso lynch arguing for it because it was the only thing to do. What the hell more do you expect from me? Want me to talk about the weather. I'm sorry, but I see "nice 180" as a feeler comment that says you caught him on a strange decision. That's not pressure, in fact, it's not even worth a response (and prp didn't give you one). When you pressure people, you do it like this: + Show Spoiler [risk.nuke pressuring greymist in GoT m…] + On March 22 2012 21:42 risk.nuke wrote: Welcome gentlemen to tonights episode of Who Needs To Get Hit In The Face With a Broadsword. My name is nuke and I will be your host for the evening. Untitled Reporter: Before we get to that, the day started of with a bunch of stupid stuff. Can you tell us a bit of what that was nuke? nuke: Yes naturally, so yes the day started of with wherebugsgo instantly deciding to do some initial trolling. My cameraman Mr.Wiggles caught some of the first responses. + Show Spoiler [Xatalos] + But isn't he third party? DAFUQ ![]() + Show Spoiler [evantrees] + ![]() The city was in chaos for a brief moment untill Acrofales rolled in and said. + Show Spoiler + Acrofales wrote: I'mma specculate on littlefingers wincondition. ![]() The quality play continues with GreYMisT wanting to lynch modconfirmed unlynchable third party. Which brings us to one of our main-candidates for the evening. Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you. ReDMisT. After reciving a pressurevote at the start of the game GreYMist emerges. He doesn't say anything about the vote made against him which I don't actually hold against him too much, altough a "Go bugger yourself nuke" in response to my vote would had been nice. However he doesn't say anything else either to generate lynch-discussion. Instead he tries to lead the conversation onto third-party discussion. If you look through his filter here. GreYMist Filter. His continued posts are pretty worthless. He makes a few points like informing how a Mayor system works, shoots down a role-claim. Denying freepasses and punching Mattchews poor logic in the face. Whilst these are alright posts and by that I mean not straight out useless or fluff they aren't doing much to help town either. They are just the kind of replies someone was going to post and GreYMisT posted first. So in terms of "helpfull discussion" aka "lynch discussion" GreY still sits on a pretty solid nothing. First. No, I did not see any sarcasm in your lets lynch littlefinger post. This is what you wrote. Tell me where is the sarcasm or how this clearly is a joke because I don't see it. Especially since the majority about that post is concerning what to do with littlefinger. GreYMisT dismiss it as sarcasm and a joke after the post BUT it wasn't sarcasm nor a joke. And that makes GreYMisT a L-I-A-R. Which is Scum in latin. I absolutely love the second part of this post If gumshoe is scum for jumping on the easiest lynch he can find, does the same go for you jumping on gumshoe? My other candidate right now was gumshoe but the case on him has already been stated and I don't feel like beeing overly repetetive. Winner: ReDMisT! Close but keeps his head: gumshoe! That's all for now, stay tuned! + Show Spoiler [risk.nuke pressuring BC and Mattchew i…] + On October 02 2012 07:07 risk.nuke wrote: BC talk to me scumshit. You show up late with a forced post in which you wildly misinterpret what I said, trying to twist find loopholes in my words too frame shit on me and. Additionally you state out of the blue you want to lynch 3 new targets with half of europe asleep untill the daypost. What are you trying to accomplish and how are you trying to make that happen? On October 10 2012 22:15 risk.nuke wrote: No Mattchew. that ship have sailed. As I said with coag, I'm done cutting you slack. You've had plenty of opportunity's to contribute but you're proving over again you don't have any ambition to see town suceed. All you do is lurk untill called out. You didn't even appear when day 4 started or as much as commented on ViceraEyes claim. Why should I think that your anything but demotivated because you're loosing and can't find strength to give this game anything. Risk.nuke has enough experience to know what actual pressure looks like. What he did to prplhz was clearly not that. Then we have this: On November 04 2012 22:22 risk.nuke wrote: Nothing shoddy about my case. Naming it won't make it so. Convince me why it would be a good idea to tell the town my town or lesser scum reads and I will. I see nowhere in risk's filter where he has a problem giving out scum reads on multiple people. Needlessly secretive is not something I associate with risk. Bluff, frank and aggressive are his playstyle, not this kinda wishy washy stuff. On November 06 2012 06:42 risk.nuke wrote: oh thrawn and kush is here and mkfuba just dropped in. Now I'm just undecided who I want to kill. I face the problem of having warmed up to you so now I'm in a gut vs logic debate. Considering killing DP or mkfuba or drazek. The two later just showed up suspiciously. And here is a great reason why NOT giving reads is such a great idea if you're mafia. When your preferred kill goes south you can just switch to pretty much anybody else without ever being accused of inconsistency. On November 08 2012 03:38 risk.nuke wrote: Prom you're way pushing my "I'm warming up to you" alot. Who is the last two mafia and who is the SK. (I don't buy into theories involving additional blues, we already have an army of them) Remaining players: Myself thrawn2112 Promethalax DarthPunk Acrofales mkfuba07 drazak kushm4sta Release People have been requestiong them so are are my overall thoughts: Town: thrawn2112, kushm4sta. + Show Spoiler + I belive thrawns claim and while kushm4sta is a terrible player he's done nothing to warrant doubting a greencheck. Likely Mafia: Drazek, Promethalax, DarthPunk and mkfuba. Maybe Mafia: Release. Likely SK: Darthpunk, Acrofales. Maybe SK: Promethelax. Look! I used a random generator to decide who to put where! Or didn't you? When asked to explain, you never even mentioned it again. Ever. Instead you got caught up in the mass claim game. Now there were some early signs that risk was being his townie self, but these have evaporated as the game went on. Combine that with other people looking townier as the game continues and we have ourself a very Innocent Wabbit | ||
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On November 09 2012 01:00 drazak wrote: I don't know what you want me to do Prom. I'm working the case for risk right now, I fell asleep last night because I was too tired after my day's activities. I've been honest with everyone, I don't know what else you'd want me to do. I think Prom wants you to post a photo of yourself wearing a leotard. Other than that, I believe the thread contains plenty of ideas for things to do. There are unanswered questions, unmade cases and you've been completely inactive since in the spotlight. Could be scum giving up, could be town giving up. I understand the demotivated feeling that comes from being lynched. But either way, I believe your wincon is to convince us otherwise (I don't see how lynching the townie Draz helps town at the moment. Sometime lynching a townie is necessary to move forward, but not now). I expect 6 hours of stellar activity that shows me exactly why my case last night is a terrible blunder. Gogogo. | ||
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On November 09 2012 01:16 Promethelax wrote: If he was going to get modkilled (he isn't anymore, plan gone) it would be nice if we could let him die on his own and lynch the next scummiest guy as long as we could make sure that if he showed up to make sure he didn't get modkilled we could still lynch him. I like it but it doesn't matter anymore. He already claimed scum. Jumping in at the last second, yelling NINJAVOTE and trololololol'ing all over your face would totally happen. Plus, counting on modkills to do your dirty work is generally bad play. | ||
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It's impossible that he's scum if Drazak flips red. Otherwise, maybe. Needs more analysis. I have not yet ruled him out as SK. However, I feel more confident with him being green than anything else. Particularly today, his behaviour around the mass claim derpage felt townie. | ||
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1. I was lazy. 2. I was fully expecting to get shot before any necessity to claim came up. | ||
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![]() If you don't believe the obsession, I see no reason why you'd believe a breadcrumb, so /shrug. | ||
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On November 09 2012 04:46 Promethelax wrote: So you thought it wouldn't help town to know who you had RB'd after your claim when we would know 100% that you are town? Remember when you and I went filter Diving through mr Zealos trying to figure out who he roleblocked? Remember who you made it clear that was important? Why did it not matter to you toprovide town with all the information that could be possibly availible to us? I played suboptimally. Sue me. Also, have you even looked at my filter? Do you really think you could find a crumb in there? Assuming I wasn't making it blatantly obvious I was crumbing, at least? | ||
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Look at what I was thinking at the end of the night. Figured there's a good chance you're the SK. I still think there's a good chance you're the SK, btw. | ||
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If you're asking me what made me want to roleblock you, then clicky! | ||
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