EPTa) weak vote on kei
b) tunnelling no-one because you've been shit
c) shit case on iamp and meta case on me, and i don't have a convenient blue claim
d) scumcase against someone who i think is scum
yes, it's town marv, you arrogant little shit.
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a) weak vote on kei b) tunnelling no-one because you've been shit c) shit case on iamp and meta case on me, and i don't have a convenient blue claim d) scumcase against someone who i think is scum yes, it's town marv, you arrogant little shit. | ||
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On October 25 2012 07:56 Hapahauli wrote: For emphasis for anyone hesitant to hammer marv. ...made even worse by the fact I'm basically confirmed town. palmar attacked me last game and he was scum. and lynch bait can be scum. terrible reasons. | ||
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On October 25 2012 07:56 austinmcc wrote: It's all I can do not to ask a dumb sherpa question. marv, drazak. you say bandwagony, lack of explanations, evades questions. This was a peculiar post to me, in terms of you giving real reasons for finding him townie (actually speaking with him, about getting lynched for not pushing reads, etc.). This post came from a position of...more knowledge than we have in thread, and so should carry some weight. do you think that he grasps it, that he'd be playing differently if he were town this game? Especially given that one of the two reads you gave seems to be town, you still confident in the other? I presume so. The thing about drazak though is that he blindly goes after some things but he seems to wilfully ignore others, and that's become more apparent with the issues surrounding my lynch. I would be lying if I said I was as confident now as I was when I thought Hapa was scum. Because the two of them made a lot of sense to me. | ||
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didn't have the heart for it this game and knew i was playing awfully but could do nothing about it. wish i hadn't bothered defending myself though, what a waste of my time. ##Vote: marvellosity | ||
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 BH: told you so, read the game brah ^^ wp town. While losing is annoying, it was actually the spending time defending myself (and it took a lot of time) to no end at all that was the most frustrating. And as both defence and attack go, I thought I'd done quite well :/ I already spoke to Hapa/BH about it a bit, but having a really long string of scum games has been wearing me down, and getting into this game 1.5 days late was just fatal for me. I don't know if I mentioned in scumQT, but as the whole game was going along, I knew I was playing "scummily" (as per meta, rather than gameplay) but I could seemingly do little about it despite being aware of it. My enthusiasm I guess was just too low. Given the really high-involvement town style I have, it's a monumental effort every time I play scum to try to replicate it, and obviously I didn't have it in me this game... I mean, I actually had quite a lot of filter this game and no-one was really lynching me for doing scummy things, just... the meta too strong. With a different playerbase I might have gotten away with it, but against Hapa/Keirathi/austin... not a chance  | ||
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What you said here was dumb. Really I think you should know me well enough that I will never, ever encourage scum partners to post LESS. | ||
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In general I think players get too hung up on what scum would/wouldn't do. Scum players play suboptimally all the time, just as much as town players do. edit: for example, Z-Bo found it really hard to believe VE was scum in Clothes because of his post at the start of Day 2 with the @ mistake. It seemed too obvious and "scum should never do that". But VE did do that, and it was totally bad. Of course he "shouldn't", but *shrug* | ||
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On October 25 2012 23:27 austinmcc wrote: I get stuck thinking there are cases where someone posting less would be a good play. I might tell someone to stop posting about certain stuff, but I'd make them post more about stuff I think they should be posting about. There really is about zero chance if I was scum with drazak I'd have made him lurkier. | ||
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On October 25 2012 23:29 austinmcc wrote: It wasn't suboptimal. It was suicidal. v7 isn't participating/isn't giving reads, let's lynch him. v7 returns to thread, gives out a few reads and promises participation later. Way higher chance that he's actually crazy busy and trying to contribute what he can than just...doing exactly what people are finding him scummy for. see VE example | ||
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About Clothes Mafia. We lynched him on Day 2 off one post. | ||
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On October 25 2012 23:33 austinmcc wrote: Gotcha gotcha. I think those are entirely different, and I dunno that I should keep clogging up postgame with this, lol. VE made an "obvious" mistake, that highlighted the change in posting style with the @ and the italics. v7 was called scummy for behaving a certain way, came back after a long absence and behaved in much the same way. Not that it was obvious or too scummy, but just that scum under suspicion for x doesn't come back after a long absence and keep doing x, at least in the vast majority of cases. Yes, but in the context of that game, the one thing scum had to avoid was making obvious stylistic mistakes. Apparently he had a 'strat' behind it, but it was just suicidal. Obviously I can't really say what I would have done as town here, but in general lynching vader was fairly understandable. He flipped town here, but many scum in the past and in the future will flip for similar reasons. Edit: not exactly the same, but slOosh and Shiao were called out pretty early for lurking/not contributing in Liquid City, and despite having days to fix it, they were still doing the same thing by the end of the game. | ||
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On October 26 2012 01:59 talismania wrote: aha! Now you know what it feels like :-) ps wtf is up with you getting scum so much? I get the sense that hosts don't actually do things randomly around here. I know what it feels like, the difference is I actually (mostly) put in the effort, dear I know BH rolled randomly here (he said so, and he's a straight up dude) but in a couple of other games I know / have strong feelings that I was made scum (Death Note, Liquid City) P.S. at various points of the game I did think of you, and I was waiting for you to come in here and comment, haha xD | ||
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it was bad enough going down but being antagonised at the same time pissed me off xD | ||
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